livendive 8 #1 June 28, 2007 My local Toyota dealer has a new truck just like the attached, and is willing to sell it for a little over invoice with 0% financing (or a $3000 rebate). It's the truck I want, in the color I want, with almost every option I want. I wasn't going to buy one till September or October, but now...hmmm...shit Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #2 June 28, 2007 How much will you save if you buy now and not wait?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #3 June 28, 2007 Just think how nice it will be pulling your trailer to LP with the new wheels. 50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #4 June 28, 2007 Quote How much will you save if you buy now and not wait? I suppose that depends on what incentives will be offered in a few months...not something I can predict. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #5 June 28, 2007 Quote Quote How much will you save if you buy now and not wait? I suppose that depends on what incentives will be offered in a few months...not something I can predict. Blues, Dave No I'm aware that in a few months you may get some incentives, but are the "LIKELY" to be as good a deal and at Zero % ?. I have never seen a car offered at $0% finance, must be a Yank thingYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #6 June 28, 2007 Better buy it Davey or my new HD2500 4x4 will put you to shame at LP bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McBeth 0 #7 June 29, 2007 I think you should get me the Lexus that I want instead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #8 June 29, 2007 puuuuurdy g "Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #9 June 29, 2007 Toyota's building Fords now????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #10 June 29, 2007 Quote Toyota's building Fords now????? Pretty much, only better. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #11 June 29, 2007 The Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #12 June 29, 2007 see, u saw my truck and wanted one didnt ya. . I was just thinking man, i may upgrade to a new 3500 diesel. we'll see http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #13 June 29, 2007 QuoteThe Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative. How so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 June 29, 2007 QuoteThe Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative. The Ridgeline doesn't have much hauling/towing capacity though, does it? I'm looking to upsize my travel trailer next year and want a truck with more umph than my current 2001 Tundra (4.7 L). Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #15 June 29, 2007 0% Financing is Hard to beat. That will save you over $5,000 over the loan if you do a typical 10% down and 60 Month Finance. It also greatly reduces the chance that you will be upside down on the loan. If the dealer will make the Price right (Check Edmunds.com) I think you would be crazy to wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #16 June 29, 2007 Quote 0% Financing is Hard to beat. That will save you over $5,000 over the loan if you do a typical 10% down and 60 Month Finance. It also greatly reduces the chance that you will be upside down on the loan. If the dealer will make the Price right (Check Edmunds.com) I think you would be crazy to wait. Edmunds is actually high right now. He's got it advertised at 2000 under Edmund's TMV, and I think I can shave another 500 off (he offered 200 more) Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #17 June 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative. How so? I am more than a bit biased, having been a part of the design. It was styled in Torrance, CA, engineered in Ohio, and is built near Toronto. It has some really innovative features, such as the huge (8.5 cu.ft.), lockable, 'bed trunk', so big you can put a HUGE cooler in it, or just fill it with ice (and drain it when done). A really comfortable (std 21 degree seat back angle) rear seat that can fit golf clubs under it (even if you don't golf, that is a lot of space), and is split/folding for large items/bikes (you can put a full size bike across in the 2nd row after folding the seat bottom up). A really innovative center console with great storage features. Dual action tailgate (it can either swing down or out sideways) that is stronger (stands up to heavy guys standing/bouncing on it without deformation) than the competition's. You can fit quads and motorcycles with the tailgate down. You can fit 4x8 sheets of drywall/plywood between the wheel wells. The bed has an integrated, extremely tough liner (developed by GM, but they made it an expensive option that few chose to buy). In comparison handling tests with a full load in the bed, the competition handles like a wet noodle, the Ridgeline still feels solid. Other vehicles have a higher towing capacity, but the Ridgeline is very solid in handling its 5000 lb limit. It is a unibody chassis instead of body on frame style, but it is actually MUCH more rigid in torsion than the traditional frame type trucks. The all wheel drive system was first developed for the Acura MDX (also used by the Honda Pilot), it works in front wheel drive mode (efficient) when driving easy and cruising, but will anticipate the need to send torque to the back wheels if you accelerate hard - it doesn't just wait for wheel slip to occur before shifting torque to the other wheels, and it respond very quickly. Obviously it isn't a full size bed, they aren't trying to compete for that market. I could go on and on. http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=RidgelinePeople are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #18 June 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative. The Ridgeline doesn't have much hauling/towing capacity though, does it? I'm looking to upsize my travel trailer next year and want a truck with more umph than my current 2001 Tundra (4.7 L). Blues, Dave If the 4.7 liter isn't enough for you, then indeed you would also find the Ridgeline's 3.7 liter lacking. They aren't going after that market for really heavy towing.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 June 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative. The Ridgeline doesn't have much hauling/towing capacity though, does it? I'm looking to upsize my travel trailer next year and want a truck with more umph than my current 2001 Tundra (4.7 L). Blues, Dave How big is the trailer you have now (weight/size), and what are you looking to upgrade to?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #20 June 29, 2007 Quote I have never seen a car offered at $0% finance, must be a Yank thing It's quite common in some countries - you see it quite often in the UK, for example. Not sure why it's not common here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #21 June 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe Honda Ridgeline is much better. I realize the styling puts some people off, but it is truly innovative. The Ridgeline doesn't have much hauling/towing capacity though, does it? I'm looking to upsize my travel trailer next year and want a truck with more umph than my current 2001 Tundra (4.7 L). Blues, Dave How big is the trailer you have now (weight/size), and what are you looking to upgrade to? The one I have now is a little guy...21 feet and maybe 4500 lbs heavily loaded, and my current truck has no problems pulling it at 75 mph unless there's a headwind AND a hill. I'm planning on something more along the lines of 28-31 ft and 7-8k lbs. With the exception of short trips around town, I'm not big on pushing up against GCWRs, and the new Tundra will leave me a ton+ to spare on the hitch. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 June 29, 2007 Ok...there's some limitations, here...I've been there, done that. I'm not going to tell you it CAN'T be done...I *am* going to tell you that it's NOT all that safe and it WILL wear out the truck. (experience with 1/2 ton Dodge, 5.9L engine, 29 foot trailer)(seel end of post) The double cab / short bed and crewmax show a wheelbase of 146". That equates out to a max of 29 feet (20 feet for the first 110 inches of wheelbase, and 1 ft for every 4 inches after 110 inches), and I would probably go for 3-4 feet LESS than that. (N.B. the rule of thumb above is old, but still very valid) The other rule of thumb is that the distance from the hitch to the rear axle of the trailer should be less than 2 x wheelbase... so, a distance of 292 inches, or 24'4" - I imagine you should be good, there. Weight-wise... the CrewMax has a payload capacity of 1585 lbs, the the double cab / short bed has a payload of 1665 (both with 5.7L limited engine). Now the subtractions... 1665 - 800lbs tongue weight (10% of 8k) - 350lbs people weight - 150lbs weight distributing hitch leaves you roughly 350 lbs capacity for fuel / supplies - that's cutting it pretty damned close, and you're going to have to have your trailer brakes and controller dialled in REALLY well to keep the trailer from pushing you around. You're going to HAVE to have a WD hitch, sway control and a GOOD brake controller, guaranteed. The Reese Dual-Cam and Hensley Arrow are well-recommended hitches. The Hensley is a fair bit heavier than a normal WD hitch. Tekonsha Prodigy brake controllers are well regarded, as well. Now - here's MY experience with a similar setup to what you're considering: You can forget 75mph - you'll more likely be running about 60-65 max and you aren't going to pass anything, ESPECIALLY a gas station!! Even with tow-rated tires (at least 8ply, and 10ply or better are strongly recommended), uprated shocks and a WD hitch, the truck/trailer wallows. Opposing large traffic (semis and the like) will have a sway effect, as will semis passing you (and they WILL). Even with a good controller, braking is MUCH different than with a lighter trailer - it will push you to an extent. IMO - after having been there - I wouldn't pull anything over about 2.5 - 3k and 20ish feet with a half-ton. I wouldn't pull anything over 4-5k weight or 25 feet in length without at least a full ton diesel pickup.... and I'd get a 5th wheel trailer if I were to do that. Over 10k weight or 30 feet, I'd get a converted class 8 truck (required a 5th wheel trailer).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #23 June 29, 2007 Good advice. People are used to the obvious limiting factors like power and brakes, but the limitations of some other systems isn't so obvious. The need to have a lot more cooling of the transmission fluid and power steering fluid isn't nearly as well known. It doesn't take much hauling up a hill to heat up the tranny fluid to where it will start shooting out the filler pipe like a geyser. Serious tranny coolers are needed. The power steering fluid also gets really hot with all the extra work done to keep the truck and trailer between the lines.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #24 June 29, 2007 I may be upgrading my camper if your interestedhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 June 29, 2007 That's a good point, as well.... a separate hi capacity tranny cooler is a MUST.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
