moodyskydiver 0 #51 May 8, 2008 Quote Does Tucker's papers have any sort of listing like "SchH" with a Roman numeral I, II, or III behind it? Edit to add: could possibly be VPG instead of SchH I've looked back 3 generations and I dont see any"SchH"s or "VPG"s, but there are several "GER"s and "SZ"s and "NHSB"...whatever all that means.I know that "GER" is the country,Germany, that several of his ancestors where whelped/bred but as for the rest,I'm clueless.Plus none of these abbreviations are in the lists on the back of his pedigree. I'm not used to having such a papered dog.I just thought I was doing a rescue.I didnt know he had any papers at all let alone that he was transported here from out of the US until I went to pick him up.I just wanted a German Shepard,papers or no papers,and since they gave him to me for free I figured he wasnt registered.Boy was I shocked when they told me his background!Hes AKC registered as "Carlomonte's Gentle Thunder"...stupid name but oh well,Tucker suits him fine.Why do you ask? what do those abbreviations stand for?Feel free to PM me so we dont get this thread off track. "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #52 May 8, 2008 QuoteDoes Tucker's papers have any sort of listing like "SchH" with a Roman numeral I, II, or III behind it? Edit to add: could possibly be VPG instead of SchH Tyson's papers online do not show that kind of detail, but his real papers do, unfortunately the most detailed of all his papers were taken without permission by my ex gf. Almost every one of his ancestors are SchIII, or SchV as well as being trackers, or border guards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #53 May 8, 2008 If I send one of you a HTML document can you post it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slowfaller 0 #54 May 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteDoes Tucker's papers have any sort of listing like "SchH" with a Roman numeral I, II, or III behind it? Edit to add: could possibly be VPG instead of SchH Tyson's papers online do not show that kind of detail, but his real papers do, unfortunately the most detailed of all his papers were taken without permission by my ex gf. Almost every one of his ancestors are SchIII, or SchV as well as being trackers, or border guards. That's schutzhund right? --"Someday you will die and somehow somethings going to steal your carbon" -MM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #55 May 8, 2008 Yes Tyson is Schutzhund trained, unfortunately, he did not compete as I was going through some very difficult times domestically.He still knows what to do, and when to do it. The Vet said something funny yesterday. Her assistant asked why he had to wear a muzzle for his shots. She told her "because he is a real dick, GSDs do not like strangers touching them" Which is a very astute observation, they are loyal to their masters, and have a set of human friends, but for a stranger to try and touch them, or reach for them, is an absolute mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #56 May 8, 2008 Get a Cane Corso... Extremely friendly dog but no one would ever have guts enought to mess with you when walking that thing... Well, maybe a stoned crackhead perhaps But if you get a CC then you might have to give up a hobby or two, they do eat a LOT “The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #57 May 8, 2008 Rhodesian Ridgeback because Mrs Fish has one and he's greatscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl1 0 #58 May 8, 2008 Quote I want to steal borrow your dog ... You can't have him! he's mineDon't even think about steeling him because he will attack you and lick you to deathFly like a girl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #59 May 8, 2008 Quote Get a Cane Corso... Extremely friendly dog but no one would ever have guts enought to mess with you when walking that thing... Well, maybe a stoned crackhead perhaps But if you get a CC then you might have to give up a hobby or two, they do eat a LOT I know nothing about the breed, but have to admit I'd be a bit intimidated if I saw this coming at me while I was up to no good! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #60 May 8, 2008 Think of it as a predacious 180lb pit bull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 May 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteDoes Tucker's papers have any sort of listing like "SchH" with a Roman numeral I, II, or III behind it? Edit to add: could possibly be VPG instead of SchH Tyson's papers online do not show that kind of detail, but his real papers do, unfortunately the most detailed of all his papers were taken without permission by my ex gf. Almost every one of his ancestors are SchIII, or SchV as well as being trackers, or border guards. There is no 'Sch V' - the V is a title similar to 'Champion' or 'Grand Champion' in regards to placement in a working dog show.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #62 May 8, 2008 Yep, I know what you mean. A friend of mine have a couple of those big things... Not very smart dogs beacuse they are convinced that they will fit perfectly in my lap when they like to be scratched... 70kg (154 lbs) of dog DON'T fit in my lap “The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hungarianchick 0 #63 May 8, 2008 Quote Quote Get a Cane Corso... Extremely friendly dog but no one would ever have guts enought to mess with you when walking that thing... Well, maybe a stoned crackhead perhaps But if you get a CC then you might have to give up a hobby or two, they do eat a LOT I know nothing about the breed, but have to admit I'd be a bit intimidated if I saw this coming at me while I was up to no good! Blues, Dave Holy crap, that's the Hound of the Baskervilles! "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hungarianchick 0 #64 May 8, 2008 Quote Yes Tyson is Schutzhund trained, unfortunately, he did not compete as I was going through some very difficult times domestically.He still knows what to do, and when to do it. The Vet said something funny yesterday. Her assistant asked why he had to wear a muzzle for his shots. She told her "because he is a real dick, GSDs do not like strangers touching them" Which is a very astute observation, they are loyal to their masters, and have a set of human friends, but for a stranger to try and touch them, or reach for them, is an absolute mistake. ~revising dognapping plan~ "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #65 May 8, 2008 Nothing 'Baskervilles' about these 2 fine dogs huh? “The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hungarianchick 0 #66 May 8, 2008 No, not at all. "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #67 May 8, 2008 Fortunately 'cropping' ears and tails are banned in Sweden where I live. 'Cropped' CC looks like 'but-ugly-killing-machines'.... Or as warpedskydiver previously stated 'a 180lb Pitbull'“The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #68 May 8, 2008 I was referring to ScH for life, one step above a III, not a common thing. If I could actually get my hands on his original papers I would have used the proper term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #69 May 8, 2008 Quote Her assistant asked why he had to wear a muzzle for his shots. She told her "because he is a real dick, GSDs do not like strangers touching them" Which is a very astute observation, they are loyal to their masters, and have a set of human friends, but for a stranger to try and touch them, or reach for them, is an absolute mistake. If you have a dog that snaps at a stranger without provocation, then it is a fear biter and never should have had the SchH to begin with - fear biting is a fail on the behavioral test.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #70 May 8, 2008 he does not mind being petted, just not people reaching suddenly or without him coming to them first. The club director said he is fine, and his reservations are normal. The director was a pupil of Bill Koehler,and doing Schutzhund training for 50+ years. Sticking him with a syringe is completely different. Some of the members of DZ.com know him, and he acts quite nicely with them. With Rainbo he acts like a puppy.When someone is aggressive, or has malice etc. he acts accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #71 May 8, 2008 QuoteI was referring to ScH for life, one step above a III, not a common thing. If I could actually get my hands on his original papers I would have used the proper term. There's no such thing - SchH III *is* the highest Schutzhund rating - that's as far as it goes and it's not time-limited. There are FH1 and FH2 ratings that have to do with advanced tracking, and a BH rating that is more of a companion/seeing eye dog qualification. The 'Vorzugliche' (or "V") is a performance rating giving in a working dog show, similar to a 'Best in Breed' at an AKC show, but in regards to performance. Performance ratings: VA, V, SG, G, A. Ratings of M, U or 0 (zero) are unsatisfactory.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #72 May 8, 2008 Thanks, I will use that example if I can get his original papers back, I recognize the tracking codes etc. now that you have posted them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 May 8, 2008 That sounds more like the normal temperament...thanks for clarifying.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #74 May 8, 2008 My mistake about the V designation, thanks for clarifying it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 May 8, 2008 QuoteThanks, I will use that example if I can get his original papers back, I recognize the tracking codes etc. now that you have posted them. I was hoping it would jog your memoryMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
