blitzkrieg 0 #1 February 3, 2006 just trying to get an idea where people jumping and USING their reserves opinion and experience lies. i'm looking more for experienced jumpers, with high reserve wingloads (1.8 give or take) and possibly based on their own comparisons between these three. like anything... i'm looking for a value with confidence in the product. thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #2 February 3, 2006 I jump with an AngelFire 150. Used it three times on intentional cutaways, I'm 185 out the door and it's a really comfortable fly.........Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blitzkrieg 0 #3 February 3, 2006 Sid, thanks for the input, but like i said... i'm mainly looking for high wingloadings. i'm jumping a small reserve and i'm curious as to control and landing characteristics at these canopies when they are at there "max" weight limits. thanks again... blue skies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #4 February 3, 2006 See this post for my feelings about reserves. I have an R-Max 108 on the way for a second rig. Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 February 3, 2006 You needed to make this a multiple answer poll. I've jumped all three of those manufacturer's products at or near that wingloading. I'd put any one of those in my rig. My preference wouldbe the R-Max right now.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 February 3, 2006 R-Max with 2 rides at 1.65 to1 First was a standup in the peas.. at Jumptown in MA.. normally I jump at sea level.. so the second ride on it at Lost Prairie (3700 Ft Elevation).... was a bit brisk coming in.. so I slid out the landing just to be on the safe side since I am old and decrepit.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #7 February 3, 2006 You're not all that decrepit. Old, yes but not, well, nevermind.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #8 February 3, 2006 Not gonna be easy finding reserve loadings that high. My reserves are both PD, I've jumped one at 1.35 three times and trust it without question. Haven't jumped the other at 1.55 but feel the same way about it or it wouldn't be in my rig. 1.8 is beyond my comfort level though.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #9 February 3, 2006 QuoteYou're not all that decrepit. Old, yes but not, well, nevermind. I saw her landing on that reserve ride. She knows of what she speaks.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karlm 0 #10 February 3, 2006 I have had four sports mals, two of them on a 120 Smart and two on a Tempo 170 The Smart is such a nice reserve, good opening and solid flair Better never to have met you in my dream than to wake and reach for hands that are not there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #11 February 3, 2006 Quotejust trying to get an idea where people jumping and USING their reserves opinion and experience lies. i'm looking more for experienced jumpers, with high reserve wingloads (1.8 give or take) and possibly based on their own comparisons between these three. like anything... i'm looking for a value with confidence in the product. thanks! I am finally dumping my 150-M for a PD143R or SMART150. and I am done with PA products. I would like to know how the Anglefire performs at high wing loadings. rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickz 0 #12 February 3, 2006 Again....where is Paratec? ...jumped my Speed 2000 twice....nice Reserve! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #13 February 3, 2006 My only two fairly recent reserve rides were under my old Tempo 120's and they landed me fine. I have PD 106Rs in both of my rigs now and had the opportunity to demo the canopy on main risers before making that choice. Not sure if Aerodyne has that demo option yet, but in the meantime you can order a PD R (hooked up like a main) anytime you like for demo. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #14 February 3, 2006 i have a tempo 170 CReW Skies,"Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blitzkrieg 0 #15 February 3, 2006 QuoteI am finally dumping my 150-M i couldn't agree more... but that's why the -m wasn't on this poll. i've ridden a 150-m with what seemed to have a built in turn... but there was plenty of f111 on that thing to get me down safely. i've also ridden my r-max118, and it flew beautifully. to me it just seems that while PD definitely makes great canopies... they are overrated, and maybe even overpriced. in comparison to other products out there that are worthy adversaries that are underrated. on the poll here, you can see that everyone has been voting for PDRs, as i expected... but really no one has written in a reason they think they are superior. in retrospect... those that have flown the others, trust them just as much if not more. anyway, thanks to everyone for your input... i think i know where i stand now, after all. Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 February 3, 2006 Your poll really should allow multiple answers. For example, my last reserve ride was on an R-Max 118 loaded "slightly more than the manufacturer recommends." The R-Max opened, flew and landed fine. My only criticism was that it stalled with toggles near my belly button, but considering how much I was over-loading it, I would be a fool to complain. I did not try to stand up the landing, but since we landed in a soft, muddy field, that did not matter. Fifteen of my other 19 reserve rides have been tandems, so I am intimately familiar with Strong 425 reserves. They open slowly subterminal, painfully hard at (drogue-less) tandem terminal and flare better than Strong's F-111 mains. I once landed a Tempo 250 and a Manta 290 in a biplane. Since I was afraid of flaring that combination, the landing was more of a slide than an landing. My Amigo 172 flew great. I just had to remind myself to do a "full" flare. I also have three rides on round reserves: T-10R, 26' F-111 Defender and some little German-made conical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #17 February 3, 2006 1981 Swift 5 cell.Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #18 February 3, 2006 Quoteto me it just seems that while PD definitely makes great canopies... they are overrated, and maybe even overpriced. in comparison to other products out there that are worthy adversaries that are underrated. on the poll here, you can see that everyone has been voting for PDRs, as i expected... but really no one has written in a reason they think they are superior. in retrospect... those that have flown the others, trust them just as much if not more. I'm glad you noticed that. I feel the same about pd...good canopies but so many swear by them without knowing why they are swearing by them. Despite what your poll states you have really only had a few people come back with an answer to your question (question being which reserve loaded 1.85 or higher)...putting the score basically at: pd - 2 (diablopilot and skymonkeyone) r-max - 2 (diablopilot and riggerrob) smart - 1 (diablopilot) I didn't count my vote since I have not actually jumped the r-max yet, but I do know and trust pa's stuff, including a ride on a -mz at 1.8 to 1 at 5500' msl, where it performed perfectly. I have no problem trusting an r-max at 2:1.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #19 February 4, 2006 My Amigo 172 flew great. I just had to remind myself to do a "full" flare. I did 99% of drop testing on Amigo reserves for the Reflex and I totally trust them! I currently have two. They are sooooo over built and fly very nicely. They land well too. Well done Gary and Ernie! BTW Rob when exactly was the last time you actually saw your belly button? Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #20 February 4, 2006 QuoteBTW Rob when exactly was the last time you actually saw your belly button? Cold, just plain cold. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #21 February 4, 2006 I have 8 Rides on a PDR loaded at about 1.7:1. Fantastic openings and a suprisingly powerful flare considering it is an F-111 parachute loaded at 1.7:1 I wouldn't trust anything else!Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #22 February 5, 2006 QuoteI wouldn't trust anything else! Why not? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #23 February 5, 2006 Bandwagon.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #24 February 5, 2006 seconded...NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #25 February 5, 2006 I have jumped the PD and Smart within a week of each other. One intentional, one not. I would have either in my rig. I jump a PD, and actually prefer the flight characteristics a bit more. It comes in and out of the turn more gracefully. The smart took more corrections. It felt a bit like the old Triathalons. Both had more than enough flare, and neither felt like they had a quick stall point. I have not flown a R-Max yet. I have expereince on the MRs and one had a built in turn, the other didn't flare very well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
