woodpecker 0 #1 February 2, 2006 I just got my new rig back from the shop (had my main, cypress, and reserve put in) and bluntly.....it looks like SHIT! I bought a Icon I4 and the specs says it fits a 150....well, I put a 150 (both reserve and main) and fankly, it doesnt look like it fits. The eye holes on flap 3 and 4 are about 3/4 of an inch apart and I'm not even sure the damn pin will come out. Apart that, is this even good for the container? Is this just a shitty pack job on the reserve/main? Is this normal on a new container and the material stretches after a little while? Does 150 not really mean 150? pic attached...... BillySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #2 February 2, 2006 The I4 fits the 150's very nicely!!!!! What you have there is an ugly pack job. From the looks of it both the main is not filling out the D-bag evenly. That is why you have all that weird stuff going on. Repack the main yourself.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #3 February 2, 2006 I just showed this to our main rigger hear at Aerodyne and he says the reserve is not packed very neatly either. I wonder how many Icon's your rigger has packed before? If he or she needs packing instructions have them give Thiago a call at 813 679 7190. Thiago is our head designer and rigger at Aerodyne USA. He will help them make it look like it should. As for the main. It just needs to fill out the dbag. Looks like most of the canopy is packed into the center of the bag which will make it look the the way yours does.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #4 February 2, 2006 That looks more like a crappy pack job on the main to me __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #5 February 2, 2006 Guess I'll have another rigger pack the reserve and I'll repack the main a few times to see what happens. Thanks guys.......not so worried now. BillySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #6 February 2, 2006 Quote The eye holes on flap 3 and 4 are about 3/4 of an inch apart and I'm not even sure the damn pin will come out. Apart that, is this even good for the container? Most rigs do not want the flap grommets to overlap. There used to be (and still can be) pack closure problems if the grommets hang on the other grommet or binding tape. IOW, offset flap grommets are a good thing. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #7 February 2, 2006 Is that Parapak? Parapak highlights every wrinkle as well. So a nice pack job is very important. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #8 February 2, 2006 I never knew that. Thanks for the pics. Learn something new everyday.......I'm sure I've always had a gap in every rig; just never paid attention to them because they didnt look so bad.SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #9 February 2, 2006 Yep, Parapak. And thanks for the pics you sent...very very nice. BillySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #10 February 2, 2006 QuoteYep, Parapak. And thanks for the pics you sent...very very nice. Billy There is also a remote possibility that the main deployment bag is the wrong size, a lttle small for that model. Many manufacturers have several different size/ shape bags for different models. Some of the bag sizes are very similar but there are big differences in the way they fit in the pack tray. Easy enough to do when shipping multiple rigs out, sometimes stuff gets mixed up. Try re-packing the main and see how it looks, it could just be a crappy pack job that got worse during shipping. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #11 February 2, 2006 The nice thing about this packjob is that it was done at a DZ over here and I just now picked it up and brought it home. No shipping. I'll repack a few times and see what happens.SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #12 February 2, 2006 QuoteI'm not even sure the damn pin will come out. If you got the pin in without the use of tools, even a worn out PC will pull the pin. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #13 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteI'm not even sure the damn pin will come out. If you got the pin in without the use of tools, even a worn out PC will pull the pin. Sparky If it goes in the bag, it will come out of the bag. -- Zen and the Art of Rigging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymick 0 #14 February 3, 2006 Quote I bought a Icon I4 and the specs says it fits a 150....well, I put a 150 (both reserve and main) and fankly, it doesnt look like it fits. The eye holes on flap 3 and 4 are about 3/4 of an inch apart and I'm not even sure the damn pin will come out. Apart that, is this even good for the container? I recently got a I4 with a 150 main/reserve and had the same problem with 3/4 inch seperation of the grommets on the 3 and 4th flap, if i shortened the closing loop any tighter I couldnt get it closed at all. Eventually though I was able to shorten it and after 5-6 jumps on it I found it much easier to pack. The most important thing is to get as much of the closing loop through the first grommet as possible, then the reset is easy IMHO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake 0 #15 February 3, 2006 QuoteI just got my new rig back from the shop (had my main, cypress, and reserve put in) and bluntly.....it looks like SHIT! Did you bother asking anyone at the shop? Any good rigger I've met would be happy to hear your concerns and make any necessary corrections, aesthetic or otherwise. You could also learn more about your gear in the process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #16 February 3, 2006 I think the manufacturers should make it very clear that the choice of parapak may have serious aesthetic consequences. They get unhappy customers that should have been warned - it is predictable. You're not the first to not like the results with parapak.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #17 February 3, 2006 QuoteI think the manufacturers should make it very clear that the choice of parapak may have serious aesthetic consequences. They get unhappy customers that should have been warned - it is predictable. You're not the first to not like the results with parapak. Ummm, I agree with you about the looks of parapak... as in, I don't like it either... but why is it up to the manufacturer to "warn" someone if they order a rig made of parapak. I mean, if you're going to go spend several thousand dollars on a rig, you ought be sure know what it is you're picking out... as in, go take a look at one. Buyer Beware! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #18 February 3, 2006 what are the main reasons for people choosing parapak?Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #19 February 3, 2006 Quotewhat are the main reasons for people choosing parapak? Well, I guess that some folks like the looks of it. I jump in the desert and way back when I was a newbie, the advice I got the then old grey hairs around the DZ said that parapak doesn't wear well in the desert, you're better off with cordura. I've observed too as parapak ages, it gets kinda "fuzzy" which detracts from its looks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #20 February 3, 2006 It looks nice when its pack nicely. Just looks newer in my opinion and my other rig is cardura so I have something to compare it too.SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #21 February 3, 2006 so purely aesthetic, no practical reason as such? (was asking cos personally i don't like the "shiny" look but needed to know if i was missing something!)Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #22 February 3, 2006 Purely aesthetic in my opinion. At least I havent noticed anything gained from one to the other.SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinho 0 #23 February 3, 2006 Hi, First step: Contact the manufacturer and tell them your concerns! Second step: Talk with your local dealer or whoever sold it to you. You paid for it, simple like that! If you not happy, they should take care of it. I've sold over 30 Icons and we never had a problem with it. By the way, parapack is not abrasion resistant as cordura fabrica. The only property of parapack is the shiny looking. Cheers, Gus Marinho Rigging SolutionsGus Marinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #24 February 3, 2006 ... seems to me, the most rigs I've ever seen done in parapak was the ol' R.I. Flexon, but you don't see too many of them anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
