ryoder 1,590 #51 June 3, 2008 Quote I definitely recommend avoiding such cheap oil change places at all cost. Quote Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . . -- NickDG "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #52 June 4, 2008 Quote Quote p.s. i have ben doing this a long time. wheel berings just don't "go bad" at 25k. your tire problom is a result of the berings, which is a result of you. I could be wrong, my opinion means nothing. just think about it. have a good night! You know... you're so right. Thank you for pointing out my problems. You are so smart. I'll just go sit over in the corner and let you spend all of my money cuz I don't need to worry my poor lil head about such manly things as cars. But.... um. didn't you say at first that it was because I didn't get my tires aligned that the tires are bad and that was making the noise.... and now you're saying that the bearings (which again you're saying is all my fault) is why the tires are bad. This is all so confusing for us women. I'm going to go and cook now. -Few things piss me off more than a sexist attitude. - and although you MIGHT not have meant to come off as sexist. After dealing with them here and then hearing you defend their action and further telling me to "just think about it"... well thinking about it isn't helpin. hey, I am not going to argue with you, but the fact remains that your pissed at your dealer. it is my opinion your pissed at them for the way they handled the situation, this is because you EXPECT it to be free. the most probable cause of your whols situation is this. FACT. tire noise is VERY similar to a bering noise. FACT. you had a bad wheel bering. most probable cause of the bad wheel bering is hitting a curb or pothole. FACT, hitting a curb or pothole can cause your allignment to go out AND cause wear on your tires that sound EXACTLY like a wheel bering. FACT, part of diagnosing a wheel bering noise "when the bering isnt physicly loose" is getting rid of the tire noise, then re driving to find the bering noise. FACT, 1 degree of allignment being out "the toe" part of the allignment. the amout of tire werar that comes from this is equal to "every 20 miles you drive, is like dragging your tire sidways for 1 mile.". FACT, your pissed off because your a girl.seriously, I do not see anything wrong with what they did. I do hoever see a problem with the way they handled you. sometimes it is very very dificult to handle a pissed of women who brings her car to the dealer. seriously. relax, and make sure you find a good tech at the dealer that you can comunicate with. the comunication is what is lacking, and your lack of understanding the facts and how things happen with cars pissed you off, and your dealer SHOULD have addressed this in the way they explained things to you. one more fact for you. when you hit a pothole or curb, it usually takes 1-3 months for the bering to start to make noise, by this time you already have severe tire wear due to the allignment being out. seriously, before you ever have work done on your car I will counsult with you what is going on so you understand. all you have to do is PM me.. if it is serious, I will give you my number and I will help explain things for you.. later...note, I am not spell checking this shit because it crashes my computer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #53 June 4, 2008 Thank you for taking the time to further clarify and respond with (a little) less blame and accusation. Your comments in that last post seem sincere and helpful. (spell checked or not ) I really was just quite annoyed by what seemed like them trying to manipulate me. And even your explanation has multiple "can" and "could"s .... so what truly cause the bearing is unknown and likely irrelevant. You are incorrect, though, in the assumption thought that I was mad because I expect it to be free. I don't honestly worry about money all that much.... I was mad because I felt that I was being scammed and treated without respect for my intelligence. I have had other problems with this dealership. The trust here is long since gone. At one point, I even went up to Wisconsin to a dealership in Madison that I do trust to get advice and then ultimately bought a vehicle from ones that I trusted. My husband and I had talked about the service department here in Kansas City prior to buying this vehicle and we decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.... So I was jaded to begin with.... and it didn't help to have my concern about a noise brushed off.... then to have them respond differently to him. Bottom line, It's not that hard to treat women at the service department.... just give them the same respect that you give the men. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #54 June 4, 2008 you are correct. that was an assumption and I agree that I could be 100%wrong. you really need someone you trust when it comes to your car. at the dealer, or elswaere. seriously, if you walk in with the thought that your going to get ripped off, your not even going to hear what they have to say. I am not a customer service rep. I am a tech, things are black and white to me. I have trouble comunicating the problems. that is why I have sales people. do I like them? no, I hate them more than you, I have to work with those fuckers EVERY DAY!!!!... ask to speak with a tech, build a reputation with them and that will take you a LONG way. use them each time, and talk with them each time. small talk for a breif moment will get you alot. I hope this is good advice, and quit being pissed off that your a girl.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
