How Would You React to This? (Job/Boss Related)

[taylor.freefall 0]

That's disrespect by being late of course?

[shropshire 0]

I see your point but don't 100% agree.

I've been in the miltary, so have been on the receiving end more times than I can count but I'd never tackle a staff problem in that way,.

Actually, I'd not even consider doing so by e-mail. These things are best sorted in a 1:1 face-2-face meeting.

The OP may have timing issues (not a good idea for a musician) but the boss has issues too.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[livendive 8]

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That's disrespect by being late of course?

I mentioned that being late was unprofessional, but I wouldn't consider 5 minutes particularly disrespectful, especially twice in the course of nearly a year. Then again, I was over an hour late to work today (granted, nobody was waiting for me). Also, being a few minutes late can be accidental. Cussing out an employee is intentional. Feel free to take as much shit as you like, but for 6 hours a week I'd walk, and try to leave a nice little shitstorm for the guy to clean up in my absence (assuming I didn't need a good reference from him).

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[buff 0]

Take back your red Swingline stapler and burn the place to the ground

It's called the Hillbilly Hop N Pop dude.
If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough.
That's fucked up. Watermelons do not grow on trees! ~Skymama

[MichaelMoore 0]

Nobody likes receiving abrasive e-mails but it’s a part of life.

While this Dean was using profanity in his e-mail, he wasn’t necessarily using profanity at you in a personal manor. It was just used to emphasize his point.

Personally speaking, nothing pisses me off more than tardiness. It says a lot about you. It implies that you do not value your job and would rather be someplace else. That’s how many bosses see it.

[Shell666 0]

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Nobody likes receiving abrasive e-mails but it’s a part of life.

While this Dean was using profanity in his e-mail, he wasn’t necessarily using profanity at you in a personal manor. It was just used to emphasize his point.

If the dean was using email as a means of communicating with his staff about something he considered "unprofessional", he should have done so in a professional manner. Profanity isn't required to emphasize a point.

I think the dean was way out of line with his email.

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Personally speaking, nothing pisses me off more than tardiness. It says a lot about you. It implies that you do not value your job and would rather be someplace else. That’s how many bosses see it.

I agree that tardiness is unprofessional, however, sometimes there's a reason for being late.

Addressing the issue the way the dean did show's event LESS professionalism than being 5 minutes late. It tells me that he doesn't value his employees so why should they value their job.

Just my take on it.

'Shell

[mirage62 0]

If your as good as you say you are, then quit. Otherwise be on time. If the school is as good as you say they'll replace you with someone who will be on time and you can go on to a job where the dean doesn't offend you.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[MichaelMoore 0]

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It tells me that he doesn't value his employees so why should they value their job.

Maybe because they need to earn a living? Crazy huh?

[BIGUN 1,440]

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In the military we often address performance issues with individuals by telling them to "remove their heads from their 4 point of contact" aka "pull your head out of your ass" in hopes they tighten up their shot group before we are forced to call them into the office and put it down on paper.

I sure don't remember receiving; nor later giving any military counseling like that.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[Gato 0]

Thanks, everybody, for your views and opinions!

I had a meeting with M****** about two hours ago, and THE EMAIL WAS NOT DIRECTED AT ME!!!!

There are two other teachers he was very angry with last night, and it was targeted (not very well) at them. THEY are habitually late and leave their students waiting on a semi-consistent basis. He said he intended to send a follow-up email to clear up any misunderstanding, but he was too pissed-off, and forgot.

I'm glad I didn't send the reply I wrote last night, and that I went and spoke to him face-to-face. He thanked me for coming in and talking to him about it on my day off. Yeah, baby, cool heads prevail.

Oh, and he apologized profusely to me - I was the only teacher who responded at all, email or otherwise. Then he told me "No, we actually need more of you, Chris."

I'm still going to continue to do my best to be on-time, as per usual.

Thanks again for all your views, my peeps. Try not to be too hard on me for being late those two times.

T.I.N.S.

[taylor.freefall 0]

So all this was for nothing? Gato, you git

[mnealtx 0]

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In the military we often address performance issues with individuals by telling them to "remove their heads from their 4 point of contact" aka "pull your head out of your ass" in hopes they tighten up their shot group before we are forced to call them into the office and put it down on paper.

I sure don't remember receiving; nor later giving any military counseling like that.

Rocks and Shoals?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Gato 0]

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If the school is as good as you say they'll replace you with someone who will be on time and you can go on to a job where the dean doesn't offend you.

Please see my previous post on the resolution of this matter.

Your response tells me you saw what I was saying as arrogant - my self-esteem is waaaayyyy too far in the shitter to be arrogant, sir. I am, however, quite confident in my abilities and in the my track record of turning out kick-ass guitar players.

Thanks for your views, I appreciate it.

T.I.N.S.

[Gato 0]

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Gato, you git

I know, I know.....

T.I.N.S.

[StreetScooby 5]

Great!

We are all engines of karma

[BIGUN 1,440]

Treeline.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[mnealtx 0]

FM 22-102?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[stratostar 5]

Gald you got it worked out by why would you take that same kind of shit from a DZO?

If your a paying customer......Tell um to fuck off and walk.

If your an independent contractor @ dz remind them the laws that appy to you as an I.C. and if they don't like it still....then walk!

If your one of the few employee's @ the dz, I still wouldn;t put up with that bullshit and I would walk.

Or stay a be treated like shit and be ready to take more abuse in the future, as so many do.

you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

[Gato 0]

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FM 22-102?

Nice. Very classy - am I to understand it's ok to beat my ass because I was late to give a guitar lesson?

Fuck, I'm sorry.

T.I.N.S.

[mnealtx 0]

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FM 22-102?

Nice. Very classy - am I to understand it's ok to beat my ass because I was late to give a guitar lesson?

Fuck, I'm sorry.

Satirical military in-joke, gato...wasn't directed at you - sorry for the confusion!

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Gato 0]

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Gald you got it worked out by why would you take that same kind of shit from a DZO?

I was really just making a joke, but I'd expect to get a sound reaming if I were to fuck up in the air - say if I went low twice in one weekend as a student....

T.I.N.S.

[Shell666 0]

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It tells me that he doesn't value his employees so why should they value their job.

Maybe because they need to earn a living? Crazy huh?

True.

But I live in a city that is BEGGING for staff everywhere ("Alberta Advantage" my ass!) so where there's an employee that isn't happy at one place because they're being treated poorly, there's another place that would kill to have them, and will treat them with respect.

Gato, glad you cleared everything up and it worked in your favour!

'Shell

[Gato 0]

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Satirical military in-joke, gato...wasn't directed at you - sorry for the confusion!

No sweat, Mike! I probably should have used the wink emoticon instead of the one I used. The link is actually pretty funny.

Cheers!

T.I.N.S.

[stratostar 5]

I see, no we just turn off your AAD.

you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

[BIGUN 1,440]

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FM 22-102?

See, they even had a manual for it.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.