labrys 0 #1 July 1, 2008 Is it me or are a lot of the threads being started lately transforming very rapidly into the kind of childish pooh-slinging and other hateful behavior that happens in youtube comment sections? I know there always have been and always will be those kinds of spats on any forum, but it seems to me that there's an exponential increase in them here. Is it simply that these forums have reached some critical mass membership wise or is it because once a few people start doing it others start to behave the same way? I've noticed that I'm a lot more likely to make a snarky comment than I used to be.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #2 July 1, 2008 Nawww...it's more like Oprah meets Jerry Springer... ~R+R... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 July 1, 2008 It goes in stages. When dz.com first started out it was a refreshing alternative to rec.skydiving. As time has gone on, the same types of things that happened there have happened here. Yes, you are correct, there is a "critical mass" component to it. In any group of people, there will be (for the purposes of example only) say 5% that are jerks. If you only have a community of 100 people, then it's fairly easy to keep the 5 jerks in line. As the community grows the percentage of jerks doesn't change, but the volume of material they can produce does. Further, the longer the community exists, the more personally invested people become in it -- even the jerks. Eventually they feel it's their "home" and feel it's their "right" to do in it whatever they please. New people see this behavior and, in an attempt to fit in, emulate it. Older users see the newer ones as "upstarts" that must be taken on as they are a "threat" to their status. So, as the community ages, the "jerkitude" slowly increases. None of this is new. If we all lived in small communities (both real and virtual) we'd all be a lot nicer to one another, but we don't. We live in communities of ever increasing size and anonymity. Both are factors in the increase in assholism.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 July 1, 2008 This has all happened before and it will happen again... The typical flow is that once the snowball starts to roll with more then 3-4 comments it gets out of hand and its usually the same group of people that start the slide and contribute to it growing from a fun jab to an all out flame fest. If the moderators try to do anything to limit the snipes we are accused of "not getting that it was a joke" and being "too controlling". If we take a heavy handed approach to keeping the forums from getting too snarky then everyone is pissed since they can't have any fun anymore and rightfully so. On the other hand if nothing is done you see the results. We've hit situations multiple times in the past that the user base radically changes due to issues that you've hit on such as critical mass, user dynamics and a ton of other factors. The best thing that can be done is to have self control and not post comments that are hateful or would be bordering on personal attacks. If every user was able to do this then the issue would go away on its own. Since its been proven that not everyone can do it then if the users that are able to control themselves do that and we as moderators remove the snowballs before they get rolling the issue can be minimized for the majority of the time.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #5 July 1, 2008 Quote The best thing that can be done is to have self control and not post comments that are hateful or would be bordering on personal attacks. Nice one, Remster. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #6 July 1, 2008 This thread is racist.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #7 July 1, 2008 It's all about posturing and jockying for position within the social hierarchy that is this forum. A person can be genuinely nice all day and their posts will be completely ignored. I know because I'm one of them. Unfortunately the only way to get any attention around here is to either show your boobs or be an ass. Bonus points if you do both. So if you want things to change...stop ignoring the nice people and start ignoring the jerks. But damn it! Don't stop the boobs! www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #8 July 1, 2008 Quote A person can be genuinely nice all day and their posts will be completely ignored. I know because I'm one of them. I don't have anything constructive to add to the thread, I just want you to know you're not ignored. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #9 July 1, 2008 Quote Quote A person can be genuinely nice all day and their posts will be completely ignored. I know because I'm one of them. I don't have anything constructive to add to the thread, I just want you to know you're not ignored. Is this one of those make you feel better because my name is green posts the bad ass base jumpers were talking about ??Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #10 July 1, 2008 Quote Quote A person can be genuinely nice all day and their posts will be completely ignored. I know because I'm one of them. I don't have anything constructive to add to the thread, I just want you to know you're not ignored. well not this time around. It's probably because of my kickass shades. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #11 July 1, 2008 Quote Quote The best thing that can be done is to have self control and not post comments that are hateful or would be bordering on personal attacks. Nice one, Remster. Blues, Dave Sock-in-sandal wearer Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #12 July 1, 2008 To the mods and all others who answered: Your insights are appreciated. I'm a bit embarassed by some of the less than kind things I've said lately. I'm going to try harder to get out of the pack mentality.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 July 1, 2008 Quote Quote *** well not this time around. It's probably because of my kickass shades. It's your mysterious exotic appearanceYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #14 July 2, 2008 Quote Quote Quote A person can be genuinely nice all day and their posts will be completely ignored. I know because I'm one of them. I don't have anything constructive to add to the thread, I just want you to know you're not ignored. Is this one of those make you feel better because my name is green posts the bad ass base jumpers were talking about ??[:Oh STOP IT! you three _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galvar2439 0 #15 July 2, 2008 QuoteIs it me or are a lot of the threads being started lately transforming very rapidly into the kind of childish pooh-slinging and other hateful behavior that happens in youtube comment sections? I know there always have been and always will be those kinds of spats on any forum, but it seems to me that there's an exponential increase in them here. I cant believe you used "Snarky" wait till i tell the other DZ.commers Is it simply that these forums have reached some critical mass membership wise or is it because once a few people start doing it others start to behave the same way? I've noticed that I'm a lot more likely to make a snarky comment than I used to be.So i just broke up with this woman who wasn't even my girlfriend! Hellfish #782, POPS #10664 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24fps 1 #16 July 2, 2008 Quote dz.com is starting to feel like youtube Dude, that post is so fake. Definitely photoshoped. fake you got so powened something funny and unique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #17 July 2, 2008 "powened"? WTH is "powened"?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24fps 1 #18 July 2, 2008 not sure but it is all over youtube. I thought one day some kid misspelled owned but it is a word used all the time. It makes me a bit worried to think that the kids that live on youtube are our future. definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?defid=1069767&term=pownedsomething funny and unique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #19 July 2, 2008 Quote Sock-in-sandal wearer PA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #20 July 2, 2008 Quote Quote Sock-in-sandal wearer PA? Nuh uh! please tell me you don't wear sox with your Tevas _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 July 2, 2008 Quotenot sure but it is all over youtube. I thought one day some kid misspelled owned but it is a word used all the time. It makes me a bit worried to think that the kids that live on youtube are our future. definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?defid=1069767&term=powned Try "pwned"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #22 July 2, 2008 Quote A person can be genuinely nice all day and their posts will be completely ignored. I know because I'm one of them. You're not nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #23 July 2, 2008 Quote"powened"? WTH is "powened"? "powned" , sorta means "personally owned". My kids told me that was it, at least. Means someone must bow down to your superior skills, esp. gaming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #24 July 2, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Sock-in-sandal wearer PA? Nuh uh! please tell me you don't wear sox with your Tevas I don't wear Tevas, but if I did...I'd never wear socks. Well, except for my black ones with Mickey printed on em' Seems to me that "socks n' sandels is an insult, and therefore a PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #25 July 2, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Sock-in-sandal wearer PA? Nuh uh! please tell me you don't wear sox with your Tevas I don't wear Tevas, but if I did...I'd never wear socks. Well, except for my black ones with Mickey printed on em' Seems to me that "socks n' sandels is an insult, and therefore a PA. Oh Cool! Spank Me! I mean BAN ME! I made my first PA!!! WOO HOO!!! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
