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Many people try to get out of jury duty by lying... you don't have to lie! Tell the judge the truth! Tell 'em you'll make a terrific juror because you can spot guilty people *SNAP!* just like that!!!

Then you point at the judge and say "like HIM!"



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The legal advice given to me repeatedly in the state of Florida, from a very well compensated attorney is "unless you received a certifed letter that you signed for or were served by an officer of the court you do not need to respond, nor would I advise you to"



I need more context to understand the advice you were given.

It certainly doesn't have any meaning in the context of a jury summons, because a jury summons is not sent by certified mail or delivered by personal service in Florida.

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So that's what I'm going with in the state of Florida.
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The US Postal service is highly unreliable, hence the registered letter requirement for notification in this state.
YMMV, based on the state and the jurisdiction.



It also depends on the nature of the notification.

I worked in a Florida legal practice for a year. I can assure you that the blanket advice above does not apply in all instances. Moreover, just because "something" comes certified doesn't mean you have to do anything with it--you don't even have to sign for certified mail if you don't want to. On the other hand, there are instances in which non-certified mail should be given your undivided attention.
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Most courts, while they threaten contempt of court, do not actually go through with those threats. That's because there are so many juror no-shows that they would inundate the court with a flood of such contempt citations, and it's just not worth their time to prosecute them. So probably, there is no sword of Damocoles hanging over your head. Just call the court and find out what to do.



It's a bad idea to give legal advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

Did you hear the one about the breastfeeding mother who was sentenced to a night in the clink for failure to appear?

Probably not.

There was enough public and political pressure exerted on the judge that he ended up letting her off the hook, but it's a bad idea to tell people that this is not an action (a criminal action, no less) that isn't prosecuted, because it is. There are a number of reported incidents; Google is your friend.



1) Please note the very first word that I wrote. It was "MOST". That means that I recognize that what I said doesn't apply to ALL courts, and that there are SOME courts that do prosecute.

2) How would you know that I don't know what I'm talking about?

3) Yes, I did hear about the breast-feeding mom, so you're "probably not" comment was incorrect.

4) Please try not to jump to so many unfounded conclusions.

5) But hey, if you know so much about the law, how come you didn't offer him any advice of your own? All I see you doing is criticizing what others are saying.

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There ya go being all sensible and shit:ph34r::ph34r:



"Sensible" is my basic nature.

On the other hand, I got married, and I'm moving to Texas, so maybe not.

did ya marry that Aussie?
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Most courts, while they threaten contempt of court, do not actually go through with those threats. That's because there are so many juror no-shows that they would inundate the court with a flood of such contempt citations, and it's just not worth their time to prosecute them. So probably, there is no sword of Damocoles hanging over your head. Just call the court and find out what to do.



It's a bad idea to give legal advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

Did you hear the one about the breastfeeding mother who was sentenced to a night in the clink for failure to appear?

Probably not.

There was enough public and political pressure exerted on the judge that he ended up letting her off the hook, but it's a bad idea to tell people that this is not an action (a criminal action, no less) that isn't prosecuted, because it is. There are a number of reported incidents; Google is your friend.



1) Please note the very first word that I wrote. It was "MOST". That means that I recognize that what I said doesn't apply to ALL courts, and that there are SOME courts that do prosecute.

2) How would you know that I don't know what I'm talking about?

3) Yes, I did hear about the breast-feeding mom, so you're "probably not" comment was incorrect.

4) Please try not to jump to so many unfounded conclusions.

5) But hey, if you know so much about the law, how come you didn't offer him any advice of your own? All I see you doing is criticizing what others are saying.



My very first post in this thread was an instruction to the OP about how he should handle the matter.

And I know you don't know what you're talking about because you have given advice that could cause one who heeds it to be fined or serve jail time. This is evidenced by the fact that there are many people who have been fined or served jail time because they did exactly what you advised.
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There ya go being all sensible and shit:ph34r::ph34r:



"Sensible" is my basic nature.

On the other hand, I got married, and I'm moving to Texas, so maybe not.

did ya marry that Aussie?


That Aussie turned out to be quite the disaster--probably the worst judgment I ever exercised in a personal relationship, and that's saying something.

So no, I didn't marry him.
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Most courts, while they threaten contempt of court, do not actually go through with those threats. That's because there are so many juror no-shows that they would inundate the court with a flood of such contempt citations, and it's just not worth their time to prosecute them. So probably, there is no sword of Damocoles hanging over your head. Just call the court and find out what to do.



It's a bad idea to give legal advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

Did you hear the one about the breastfeeding mother who was sentenced to a night in the clink for failure to appear?

Probably not.

There was enough public and political pressure exerted on the judge that he ended up letting her off the hook, but it's a bad idea to tell people that this is not an action (a criminal action, no less) that isn't prosecuted, because it is. There are a number of reported incidents; Google is your friend.


1) Please note the very first word that I wrote. It was "MOST". That means that I recognize that what I said doesn't apply to ALL courts, and that there are SOME courts that do prosecute.

2) How would you know that I don't know what I'm talking about?

3) Yes, I did hear about the breast-feeding mom, so you're "probably not" comment was incorrect.

4) Please try not to jump to so many unfounded conclusions.

5) But hey, if you know so much about the law, how come you didn't offer him any advice of your own? All I see you doing is criticizing what others are saying.


My very first post in this thread was an instruction to the OP about how he should handle the matter.

And I know you don't know what you're talking about because you have given advice that could cause one who heeds it to be fined or serve jail time. This is evidenced by the fact that there are many people who have been fined or served jail time because they did exactly what you advised.


Funny... Another poster just started a thread about "that guy" stories

"some guy on the internet told me_________...."

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I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong but Courts do not prosecute “Contempt of Court”. You are declared guilty by the fall of a Judges gavel and said Judge will determine your what your sentence will be. And that sentence is not up for appeal.

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I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong but Courts do not prosecute “Contempt of Court”. You are declared guilty by the fall of a Judges gavel and said Judge will determine your what your sentence will be. And that sentence is not up for appeal.

Sparky



I'm no lawyer, but I believe you're right. I've never seen a "Contempt of Court" charge tried in court on any TV show. You get out of line or disrupt the court after repeated warnings by the judge during a session, you might get sent to jail for whatever term the judge decides right there and then.

Course, I could be wrong too.
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I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong but Courts do not prosecute “Contempt of Court”. You are declared guilty by the fall of a Judges gavel and said Judge will determine your what your sentence will be. And that sentence is not up for appeal.

Sparky



I'm no lawyer, but I believe you're right. I've never seen a "Contempt of Court" charge tried in court on any TV show. You get out of line or disrupt the court after repeated warnings by the judge during a session, you might get sent to jail for whatever term the judge decides right there and then.

Course, I could be wrong too.



It depends. There are 2 types of contempt of court - "direct" and "indirect". Direct happens in the presence and full view of the court, and is considered an affront to the court - for example, being insubordinate to the judge's face in court. In most states, there's no requirement for a "contempt trial", since the judge saw what happened in front of his eyes, so he can hold you in contempt and punish you then and there.

Indirect contempt is basically doing (or refusing to do) something OUTside the court's presence, like violation of a court order. Failure to obey a juror summons is considered indirect contempt (yes, I'm sure), and for that you are entitled to a trial - in some states only on front of the issuing judge, in other states you can request a jury.

In most or all states, for ALL types of contempt you ARE entitled to take an appeal. It's up to the judge whether or not to stay the service of your sentence pending appeal, but Yes, you can appeal.

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It depends. There are 2 types of contempt of court - "direct" and "indirect".



Thanks for the indepth explanation. I learned something.
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Most courts, while they threaten contempt of court, do not actually go through with those threats. That's because there are so many juror no-shows that they would inundate the court with a flood of such contempt citations, and it's just not worth their time they just don't have enough jurors to prosecute them.



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There ya go being all sensible and shit:ph34r::ph34r:



"Sensible" is my basic nature.

On the other hand, I got married, and I'm moving to Texas, so maybe not.



You got married? HOORAY! Congratulations! :)



...and I don't know anything about jury duty. :|
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It depends. There are 2 types of contempt of court - "direct" and "indirect".



Thanks for the indepth explanation. I learned something.



OK - Part 2 of the lesson. 2 other categories of contempt, which overlap with direct and indirect contempt, are "criminal" or "civil" contempt. Criminal contempt is a direct affront to the Court, for which you can be punished. Since that is a criminal offense, you're generally entitled to a trial, sometimes even a jury trial. Civil contempt is generally refusing to do or refrain from doing something in violation of a court order. For that the judge imposes a penalty to compel compliance with the order, and once there is compliance, the penalty ceases. (Examples: $100 per day fine until you remove your junk car from the front lawn, or stay in jail until you obey a subpoena to testify at your brother's criminal trial.) You're not entitled to a trial in a civil contempt, since you are deemed to "have the keys to your own jail cell". To make this is clear as mud, sometimes (not always) a judge has choice whether to deem something criminal or civil contempt, depending on which stick he wishes to wield.

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fuck jury duty, just throw the notices in the trash like I do.

if they throw you in jail then you can either fuck somebody and make him your bitch (recommended) if you like extra snacks.

or

you can be somebodys bitch. in this scenario you may not want to drop the soap.

life is simple dont make it all complicated and shit. ;)

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There ya go being all sensible and shit:ph34r::ph34r:



"Sensible" is my basic nature.

On the other hand, I got married, and I'm moving to Texas, so maybe not.



You got married? HOORAY! Congratulations! :)


Thank you. It gets even better: I'm going to be a grandmother. :)

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...and I don't know anything about jury duty. :|



If you get a summons for jury duty, follow the instructions on the summons.

I've been called once. I went. I was rejected because both lawyers knew my then-boss, and they figured me for a loose cannon.
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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Thank you. It gets even better: I'm going to be a grandmother. :)



Congratulations!!! From MILF to GILF... ;)

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I've been called once. I went. I was rejected because both lawyers knew my then-boss, and they figured me for a loose cannon.



You? :o No way. :|

Of course their definition of a loose cannon is probably someone that can think for themselves, so yeah they would not want you.
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