futuredivot 0 #26 July 28, 2008 Billy promising not to jump somewhere I hope turtle takes this joke You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piratemike 0 #27 July 28, 2008 Quote [The skydiving community is just too small for fucked up threats of lawsuits for something like that. I agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 July 28, 2008 Quote Billy promising not to jump somewhere I hope turtle takes this joke What joke - he's serious - Problem is . . . it's just a pretty lame threat - it could encompass ANY dropzone in the world.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #29 July 28, 2008 Tell him you do not want to hear from him ever again, and do not call, write or anything else. If he wants to speak to you, it will be in court with him paying all the legal fees after he loses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #30 July 29, 2008 My first thought was this must be some Ben & Carry shit. I bet they are happy to know they are not the only assholes that own a DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #31 July 29, 2008 I do believe they set the standard. Is assaholics a word?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbss 0 #32 July 29, 2008 I think I know the DZ that you're referring to and I too have worked there. If so, you DID sign a non-compete agreement when you started working there. Now sure, that might sound crappy, but if I recall... they've had former employees move to the competing DZ and call/email all their former students to bad mouth the old DZ and bring them to the new. Have you done that yet? Were you thinking of doing that? Don't lie. Sure it sucks that someone had to threaten to enforce the agreement that YOU SIGNED. To me, what sucks even more is that a man who makes an agreement can't abide by the terms of that agreement and instead decides to whine publicly when it is enforced. Wouldn't it be great if people just had the honor to do what they agreed to do in the first place? Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #33 July 29, 2008 Quote If so, I'd think you'd have to have a written contract with the DZO stating you would not provide your services to his competitors for some specific period of time. Crap! Did you have me sign one of those the other weekend, Dave? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #34 July 29, 2008 Quote I think I know the DZ that you're referring to and I too have worked there. If so, you DID sign a non-compete agreement when you started working there. Now sure, that might sound crappy, but if I recall... they've had former employees move to the competing DZ and call/email all their former students to bad mouth the old DZ and bring them to the new. Have you done that yet? Were you thinking of doing that? Don't lie. Sure it sucks that someone had to threaten to enforce the agreement that YOU SIGNED. To me, what sucks even more is that a man who makes an agreement can't abide by the terms of that agreement and instead decides to whine publicly when it is enforced. Wouldn't it be great if people just had the honor to do what they agreed to do in the first place? Good luck! So you THINK you know the DZ...and with that in mind you SLAM the poster above. NICE MOVE mateYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #35 July 29, 2008 QuoteI think I know the DZ that you're referring to and I too have worked there. If so, you DID sign a non-compete agreement when you started working there. Now sure, that might sound crappy, but if I recall... they've had former employees move to the competing DZ and call/email all their former students to bad mouth the old DZ and bring them to the new. Have you done that yet? Were you thinking of doing that? Don't lie. According to the OP, he and his wife gave the dzo 30 days notice so that a smooth transition could be effected. That does not give me the impression of ill-intent on the part of the OP. QuoteSure it sucks that someone had to threaten to enforce the agreement that YOU SIGNED. To me, what sucks even more is that a man who makes an agreement can't abide by the terms of that agreement and instead decides to whine publicly when it is enforced. Wouldn't it be great if people just had the honor to do what they agreed to do in the first place? It depends on the agreement. http://www.justia.com/employment/hiring-employment-contracts/ QuoteGood luck! He doesn't need luck, but the thread needs a lock.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #36 July 29, 2008 Quote So you THINK you know the DZ...and with that in mind you SLAM the poster above. NICE MOVE mate Not knowing the whole story for certain, and we still don't, didn't stop anyone from slamming the DZO. Is there a difference?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #37 July 29, 2008 QuoteOut the DZ and the DZO? I agree, once it is filed it all a matter uf public record. You guys aren't holding special patents, let others know so they don't waste their money there....This guy seems insecure in his business to freak out like this,,,if you own any business you should have plans in place , even if just in your head, to replace people quickly to keep the doors open. Thats the number one goal,,keep the doors open.............smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #38 July 29, 2008 Quote Quote If so, I'd think you'd have to have a written contract with the DZO stating you would not provide your services to his competitors for some specific period of time. Crap! Did you have me sign one of those the other weekend, Dave? Of course I did, and Bill & I sure could use some help next weekend while Rosie is over at Leap for Lupus. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #39 July 29, 2008 Quote Of course I did, and Bill & I sure could use some help next weekend while Rosie is over at Leap for Lupus. Uhh, I think I'm kinda busy that weekend too. Sorry we're swiping Rosie from ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #40 July 29, 2008 Quote He fired you and is now attempting to prevent you from gaining employment elsewhere. If there is no written contract I would start by filing a small claims suit against him for whatever the maximum amount allowable in your state. Serve him (better yet, get someone else to serve him since you are not allowed on the property) and then call him and see if he still wants to play. If not tell him that a letter to your new employer retracting the threat will result in you dropping the case. If you did sign a contract with a non-compete, well too bad for you. You can't serve a complaint for a suit of which you are a party to anyway. I see it this way based upon what I read, the suit would be from the poster to the DZO for the tort of interfering with the ability to suecure work, I doubt that is the legal claim under which relief is being sought, but it's something like that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #41 July 29, 2008 QuoteMy first thought was this must be some Ben & Carry shit. I bet they are happy to know they are not the only assholes that own a DZ. I thought they made ice cream..... oh, Ben and Carry, which DZ is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #42 July 29, 2008 Quote Quote My first thought was this must be some Ben & Carry shit. I bet they are happy to know they are not the only assholes that own a DZ. I thought they made ice cream..... oh, Ben and Carry, which DZ is that? They own skyride. Been screwing and scamming people for years now. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #43 July 29, 2008 Welcome to the world of skydiving and petty assholes who have to flex what little power they have or think they have. I just got kicked off a dropzone last week because of what I posted and said as a former constituent of my USPA regional director, because he didn't like the fact that I called him out in a public fourm for violating the very rules he was to be up holding. Moral of the story is there are a ton of enormous ego driven pricks in the sport that if they feel crossed by you they will try to bully you around like some school yard punk. Again welcome to skydiving, we're family here! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #44 July 29, 2008 How many DZs does that make you banned from now? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #45 July 29, 2008 Offically, Two. Becareful who you vote for...... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pairashooter 0 #46 July 30, 2008 It sounds like a pretty greedy person to say that if you don't jump there you can't jump anywhere around there. Perhaps if people quit working for those who force them to sign things like this they would fail in the long run. There are plenty of places to work and jump that do not attempt to enslave people.Chris Scaife Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #47 July 30, 2008 Quote Quote Quote My first thought was this must be some Ben & Carry shit. I bet they are happy to know they are not the only assholes that own a DZ. I thought they made ice cream..... oh, Ben and Carry, which DZ is that? They own skyride. Been screwing and scamming people for years now. Out of curiosity, what does Ben and Carry Ice Cream taste like?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #48 July 30, 2008 rotten ass would be my first guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #49 July 30, 2008 Quote Out of curiosity, what does Ben and Carry Ice Cream taste like? Horse shit, dog shit, donkey shit, pig shit and cow shit all mixed in. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #50 July 30, 2008 with a side of bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
