skysurfer39 0 #1 January 1, 2006 I am a beginner weighing in at 185. Can anyone give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a sabre2 190, PDR 193, or Mirage G3? Thanks and Happy New Year Everyone! joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #2 January 1, 2006 QuoteI am a beginner weighing in at 185. Can anyone give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a sabre2 190, PDR 193, or Mirage G3? Thanks and Happy New Year Everyone! joe Joe, Try filling out all of your profile. Besides, thats a question best left to an Instructror that has seen you land a parachute. Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 January 1, 2006 As for a G3, there's not any real reason not to, unless you don't want to spend that much money and you buy an Infinity or a Wings or Icon, etc. Talk to the riggers in your area for info on the individual rigs. As for your canopy choices, that's a very personal question. You need to be talking to your instructors to ask what sized canopies you should be jumping. There's nothing wrong with a Sabre2, personally I've HUGE fan of them, having jumped the Pilot and Safire2, but that's just a personal opinion, there are other canopies on the market for a reason. Demo the ones that are in the right canopy class and canopy size for you and find the one you like the best. Beyond that, its hard to go wrong with a PD reserve. Once again, as for sizes, talk to the instructors at your DZ as well as your S&TA (or similar if not in the US) and find out what size canopy is appropiate for you to put you at a good wingloading for your level of ability. Good luck, stay safe and remember WINGS LEVEL!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #4 January 1, 2006 QuoteI am a beginner weighing in at 185. Can anyone give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a sabre2 190, PDR 193, or Mirage G3? Thanks and Happy New Year Everyone! joe Add 25 pounds for gear and your exit weight is 210. Check out this chart to start with and then speak with your instructors. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1979447#1979447"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysurfer39 0 #5 January 1, 2006 Points well taken and thanks for your input. I haven't filled in my profile because there is nothing to fill it in with. I am literally brand new to this sport with only five jumps. I guess my question was aimed more at the quality of those particular products rather than my ability to fly them. If there is general input on the optimal sizes of chutes for beginners, then that is also welcome. thanks again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #6 January 1, 2006 Quotewant to spend that much money and you buy an Infinity or a Wings or Icon, etc ...or an RWS Vector3. I love my Sabre2... but what do I know.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 January 1, 2006 Exactly or a Micron (V3) or a Jav, etc.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 January 1, 2006 Quote Points well taken and thanks for your input. I haven't filled in my profile because there is nothing to fill it in with. I am literally brand new to this sport with only five jumps. I guess my question was aimed more at the quality of those particular products rather than my ability to fly them. If there is general input on the optimal sizes of chutes for beginners, then that is also welcome. thanks again. Ok. Stop, full stop! Hold off, you should wait a bit, wait till you move on a bit closer to your license and talk to your instructors. Typically people buy used for their first rig, since they'll typically out grow it in a couple of hundred jumps (aka, fairly quickly in this sport). Your instructors will be able to fill you in on the details as such and they'll most likely help you find a good used rig or a good new setup (or a mix) for your first rig.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #9 January 1, 2006 Quote I haven't filled in my profile because there is nothing to fill it in with. Didn't you say you had 5 jumps? That's a start! QuoteI am literally brand new to this sport with only five jumps. If your are landing the canopy ok, that you are now jumping as a student, then thats the PERFECT CANOPY SIZE for you to purchase until you have alot more experience. QuoteI guess my question was aimed more at the quality of those particular products rather than my ability to fly them. The quality of a used main or reserve, and the harness/container, can only be given by a person that see's it physcically. And the only person that can give you an input or judge your ability to fly them would be YOUR INSTRUCTOR. QuoteIf there is general input on the optimal sizes of chutes for beginners, then that is also welcome. thanks again. Like I said, "If your are landing the canopy ok, that you are now jumping as a student, then thats the PERFECT CANOPY SIZE for you to purchase until you have alot more experience. Be safe. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schuey87 0 #10 January 1, 2006 Quote Like I said, "If your are landing the canopy ok, that you are now jumping as a student, then thats the PERFECT CANOPY SIZE for you to purchase until you have alot more experience. Ed No doubt I know way way less than you, but surely thats got to be wrong? I've never heard anyone get reccomended a 280 or the like as a first canopy by their instructors? Unless they have a very very high exit weight. I'm jumping a 280 at the moment, and my instructors told me I should be looking at buying a 170 with my weight and my skills under canopy. Maybe you mean, if he were to buy it and jump it the next jump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackpunx 0 #11 January 1, 2006 Do you have a demo program that you can take advantage of where you jump?.. I started on a 260 and my progression went 260,240,230,210,190 and finally 168.. I ended up purchasing one.. and Im really happy.. I got a container to support a downsize if I go that rout in the next few hundred jumps.. but for now.. Im really happy I waited.. The thing I learned is .. you probably want to jump that size canopy before you buy it.. its generally not good to try to grow into a canopy because you may force your progression before your ready for it.. I would wait until you have your A license before I even started looking.. good luck in whatever you do and dont get out of your comfort level.. Im a huge fan of this list.. do that on every canopy before you downsize and you'll be fine.. but make sure your instructors aggree with you before you do it on your own. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=47 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #12 January 1, 2006 Quote No doubt I know way way less than you, but surely thats got to be wrong? No, that was a recommendation from someone that has never seen him or seen him jump. He asked the general public if he should buy this equipment he's clearly not ready for, and we all know his intent was to jump it. Most unfortunatly do not wait until they are qualified if they have it in their possession. QuoteI've never heard anyone get recommended a 280 or the like as a first canopy by their instructors? I have, and I have. QuoteI'm jumping a 280 at the moment, and my instructors told me I should be looking at buying a 170 with my weight and my skills under canopy. Good for you! Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysurfer39 0 #13 January 5, 2006 Thanks all for your advice! I appreciate your time and your input. I hope you all have a Happy New Year! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
