BillyVance 35 #101 August 18, 2008 Quote Quote I did it once....... blah blah blah...... old high school friend...prattle prattle......He was a shitbag then......ramble ramble..........something about hands and cocks...on and on and so forth.....back to his trailer.....yada yada....he pitches, billy catches-end of story edited for brevity and accuracy Hey, she was good looking. At least I didn't marry her. She was a pyscho. Can't say the same there can you? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #102 August 18, 2008 Quote Quote Quote I did it once....... blah blah blah...... old high school friend...prattle prattle......He was a shitbag then......ramble ramble..........something about hands and cocks...on and on and so forth.....back to his trailer.....yada yada....he pitches, billy catches-end of story edited for brevity and accuracy Hey, she was good looking. At least I didn't marry her. She was a pyscho. Can't say the same there can you? No Billy, you are psycho too. He can say that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #103 August 18, 2008 Based on the result of the poll, clearly we have different opinions and views regarding this subject. There is a lot of emphasis on sex & first date. Should you, shouldn't you? Will he/she think I am a tart? Do I really want to wake up to him/her? Do I want to see him/her again? There are lists of pros and cons on sex & first date, but just to list a few sex & first date pros You need to test him/her to see if he/she can live up to your expectations in the sack. After all you don’t want to fall for him/her only to find out he/she doesn’t have a clue how to please. You think this is "The One," so why hold back? You've never had a one night stand and want to experience it just once. You feel less inhibited with a virtual stranger. Sex makes you feel confident, etc…. sex & first date cons He/she might think of you as easy, a tart. If he/she is worth it you can wait. He/she doesn’t look as attractive in the morning and neither do you. You wake feeling vulnerable. You may not respect each other. One-night stands last one night. Fast in, fast out, etc…. Bottom line is Whatever the list maybe…. There's no question of right or wrong. That's a value judgment which reflects society's double standards on sex, particularly with regard to women. It also does not take into account the gender differences in approach to sex which often dictates the situation. In simple bald terms, for most men, sex is a form of release, which may or may not lead to any kind of committed relationship. They really see women as the vehicle for that release and expect, or at least hope, that a woman is going to give in when the moment seems opportune. However, when they do get what they want, especially when a relationship is the furthest thing from their mind, many retreat to avoid making any kind of commitment, because the very act would have colored their view of that person. Men want sex, yes, but they hope you resist. Once you give in, you're regarded as 'easy'. On the other hand, for most women, having sex is a prelude to something else, to the possibility of a long term relationship. Sexual overtures are also tied up with personal appeal and how a woman feels about herself. To be desired and wanted is very powerful, so few women can resist such seduction, especially when a man will try anything to get it. We always do what we believe is right for us at that particular moment, regardless of the consequences. Our decisions have nothing to do with anyone else's approval or disapproval. Dating is fun, exciting and thrilling. The thrill and excitement that you feel when someone you are attracted with will go out for a walk, for a movie, to dine and to laugh, to dance and to drink, and perhaps….sex? Well, until we revisit the subject again sometimes in the future, practice safe sex! "Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #104 August 19, 2008 Quote Men want sex, yes, but they hope you resist. Once you give in, you're regarded as 'easy'. Why would we hope women resist? Personally, I've never thought poorly of a woman for having sex with me. Why in the world would I? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #105 August 19, 2008 Quote Personally, I've never thought poorly of a woman for having sex with me. Ya know, when they're this easy, it's not even really worth it. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #106 August 19, 2008 Quote Men want sex, yes, but they hope you resist. Once you give in, you're regarded as 'easy'. I hope my comments are not considered personal attacks; they are certainly not meant to be. Your attitude reminds me of the 1950s. Seriously! I thought an attitude such as yours went out with poodle skirts and saddle shoes. I grew up in the '50s and was in the 1959 graduating class in high school. I'm not quite sure of the year, maybe 58 or 59, Playboy came along. No pubic hair, no nipples in the first few months...years? Today, http://youporn.com will get damned near any porn anyone could possibly want...gay or straight, anal or oral. Times have changed. I could be old enough to be your grandfather and my take on sex is more "modern"...and realistic!...than yours. Again, not a personal attack. I simply think your perspective is naive.Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #107 August 19, 2008 Modern or not, traditional/non-traditional, young, old, 1950's, 2010.....smart, stupid as fuck, educated, non-educated, naive...., gay straight, rich, poor......what does it matter?! This is a topic open for discussions, there's no right or wrong answers here. A Poll by definition: 5 a: a questioning or canvassing of persons selected at random or by quota to obtain information or opinions. That's all it is, personal OPINIONS! As old as my grandad is...he is more open minded about people's opinions & perspectives. "Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #108 August 19, 2008 in the end, discussion or not, everybody should be free to choose or do what they think is right. and not force their opinions on others.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #109 August 19, 2008 We're still trying to figure out if you got laid or not. I'm stuck between two options. Either you didn't adn don't want to admit it (which is bad after the "bring a box of condoms" comment) Or you did and don't want to admit it (which is worse in a how ugly was she kinda way)You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #110 August 19, 2008 Quote in the end, discussion or not, everybody should be free to choose or do what they think is right. and not force their opinions on others.. WOW - so we have a rebublican, welcome to the club.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #111 August 19, 2008 Quote in the end, discussion or not, everybody should be free to choose or do what they think is right. and not force their opinions on others.. AGREED!!! "Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #112 August 19, 2008 wow.. just - wow.I wonder what the other women think about your analysis?"That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #113 August 19, 2008 Quote Quote in the end, discussion or not, everybody should be free to choose or do what they think is right. and not force their opinions on others.. AGREED!!! Hi Orchid! Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #114 August 19, 2008 Quote Hi Orchid! Hi Lisa ....muahhh!"Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #115 August 19, 2008 Quote That's all it is, personal OPINIONS! As old as my grandad is...he is more open minded about people's opinions & perspectives. Granddad here checking in with the senior citizen's perspective. Not! I do not have a typical senior's take on life. Would I be HERE on DZ.com if I did? The issue, Orchid, is that you make blanket statements with which I strongly disagree. Maybe this should be in Speakers Corner but you come across to my old brain as attacking men and our perspectives...and you do it with a very broad brush. You write this: Quote Men want sex, yes, but they hope you resist. Once you give in, you're regarded as 'easy'. And this: Quote ... for most women, having sex is a prelude to something else, to the possibility of a long term relationship. I've spent quite a bit of time reading things in the Woman's Section because I have a 15 year old daughter who wants to skydive very badly. I value the female perspective. I believe that men--men of all races and religions-- are fucking up this world of ours and women need to fix it. Where is Lysistrata when you need her??!! But...with blanket statements, totally unsubstantiated comments such as yours---they sure are OPINIONS, I grant you that---you are adding to the discord between us rather than helping.Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #116 August 19, 2008 Quote Quote Men want sex, yes, but they hope you resist. Once you give in, you're regarded as 'easy'. I hope my comments are not considered personal attacks; they are certainly not meant to be. Your attitude reminds me of the 1950s. Seriously! I thought an attitude such as yours went out with poodle skirts and saddle shoes. I grew up in the '50s and was in the 1959 graduating class in high school. I'm not quite sure of the year, maybe 58 or 59, Playboy came along. No pubic hair, no nipples in the first few months...years? Today, http://youporn.com will get damned near any porn anyone could possibly want...gay or straight, anal or oral. Times have changed. I could be old enough to be your grandfather and my take on sex is more "modern"...and realistic!...than yours. Again, not a personal attack. I simply think your perspective is naive. You call her attitude old fashioned but you didn't say in what way. Personally I think she is right on but as a guy I might add a bit to it. I would say if a woman sleeps with someone else on the first date then she's easy. If she sleeps with me on the first date....well no shit, I'm a charming mother fucker! www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #117 August 19, 2008 Quote I believe that men--men of all races and religions-- are fucking up this world of ours and women need to fix it. Where is Lysistrata when you need her??! Dude, since you're not using those testicles, you should send one to Lance-maybe he'll stop glaring at usWe'll expect to see that Guy Card returned in the mail shortly-or you can grunt, make a bodily noise, order a beer adn keep it for a 30 day probational periodYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #118 August 19, 2008 Quote Quote I believe that men--men of all races and religions-- are fucking up this world of ours and women need to fix it. Where is Lysistrata when you need her??! Dude, since you're not using those testicles, you should send one to Lance-maybe he'll stop glaring at us Dude that was just wrong. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #119 August 19, 2008 Quote Dude that was just wrong. Thanks for your defensive comment but futuredivot is totally insignificant. I spent almost three years with the 82nd Airborne during Viet Nam I think I can hold my own when it comes to balls.Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #120 August 19, 2008 Quote Dude that was just wrong. Is it? You should really consider how Lance feels.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #121 August 19, 2008 slow, deep breaths and dig in that sack for a sense of humor-trust me, I am not taking this seriously. But, for the record, I think I'm a heck of a guy, an dmy mom agrees-so thereYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #122 August 19, 2008 Quote Quote Dude that was just wrong. Thanks for your defensive comment but futuredivot is totally insignificant. I spent almost three years with the 82nd Airborne during Viet Nam I think I can hold my own when it comes to balls. You misunderstand. My post was equivalent to an e-high-five. He nailed it and it was fucking funny.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #123 August 19, 2008 Quote Quote Dude that was just wrong. Thanks for your defensive comment but futuredivot is totally insignificant. I spent almost three years with the 82nd Airborne during Viet Nam I think I can hold my own when it comes to balls. I think you owe beer. No one in the history of the universe has ever accused Divot of being insignificant. Where DID they sever that humor muscle anyway?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #124 August 19, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Dude that was just wrong. Thanks for your defensive comment but futuredivot is totally insignificant. I spent almost three years with the 82nd Airborne during Viet Nam I think I can hold my own when it comes to balls. I think you owe beer. No one in the history of the universe has ever accused Divot of being insignificant. Where DID they sever that humor muscle anyway? between his balls and prostate? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #125 August 19, 2008 Quote[No one in the history of the universe has ever accused Divot of being insignificant. you should give him a pass-he was talking IQ, not sizeYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
