shermanator 4 #26 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote (I can heartily not recommend October-December in southern California) I'm curious about this. I woulda thunk that woulda been the ideal time. Nope, never been there. it can actually get cold at night in so cal. Not snowy cold, but cold for us so cal wimps Last year at snore, the fountain in front of the office froze over and had some icicles. .. that was the day I slept in my van and froze my bum off!CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #27 September 1, 2008 Quotebuy a van and put a bed in it that way you can go from dz to dz and follow the good skydiving and weather. get a 1986-1991 VW westfalia camper bed, stove, icebox...just about everything you need... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #28 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Thing is i was a hardcore gamer for the last 5 years so i know jack shit about the real world. What games? I've been a hardcore gamer for the past 10+ years, at the moment I still sink 60 - 80 hours a week into Team Fortress 2 (see pic). It's unhealthy, good move getting away from it, I got terrible social skills. I like skydiving though Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #29 September 1, 2008 QuoteSeriously? Put down the game controller, give up skydiving (for now), get a job and go get an education and some life experience. You'll be happier and have more money (eventually) to do all you want. The sky will still be there. p.s. right now, go thank your parents for all they have done for you. *** At last! I can't believe the # of people telling this boy about how to dig himself a hole. There's nothing cool or romantic about having a tent or camper as your primary residence. As for hanging around the DZ and getting "Trained up", you can have all the ratings in then world and you still wont make a decent living. Get an education and establish yourself, the longer you put it off, the harder it becomes. There's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites iluvtofly 0 #30 September 1, 2008 QuoteThere's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. Is it really that pathetic if they're perfectly happy and living the life they want to live? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #31 September 1, 2008 QuoteThere's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. I think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Redline165 0 #32 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteSeriously? Put down the game controller, give up skydiving (for now), get a job and go get an education and some life experience. You'll be happier and have more money (eventually) to do all you want. The sky will still be there. p.s. right now, go thank your parents for all they have done for you. *** At last! I can't believe the # of people telling this boy about how to dig himself a hole. There's nothing cool or romantic about having a tent or camper as your primary residence. As for hanging around the DZ and getting "Trained up", you can have all the ratings in then world and you still wont make a decent living. Get an education and establish yourself, the longer you put it off, the harder it becomes. There's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. Im still new here but i was waiting for someone to say t his. I struggled in school to make it through, but damn was it worth it. Are you good at anything, (like do you have a trade?) Ive loved cars all my life and after graduating high school (i assume you did that) decided to goto school for it. I was in the performance industry for a good while before the school which gave me a heads up into what i was looking at, and that helped alot. but i just puckered down, spent my 2 years in school, did very well there, and then moved on with life. i got a good job here in Raleigh and im now 21 making 60-70K a year. I'm lucky by all means to end up where im at. Find some other hobbies to occupy your time. i know what its like to eat sleep and bleed something. i was heavy into Crotch rockets for a while. quickly learned that going all into something isnt the way to go. Dont get me wrong, i LOVE Skydiving, but someone that has few a jumps as you and has no real world experience, id recommend getting some shoes on your feet and then going from there. Another word of advice is to find a non weather dependent hobby, haha. like poker, pool, going to the gym or video games (like you said) because there is no one more miserable then a person with nothing todo on a rainy saturday. Eitherway, good luck with whatever you choose. as i said. id say get your ass in school and find a good paying job. hell, most schools even have offers for internships that pay pretty damn decent. good luck man -K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #33 September 1, 2008 QuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites iluvtofly 0 #34 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. I dunno where you jump at but at my DZ that packers also buy beer. No one is exempt from buying beer. You never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? Edited to add: I went to college and got a Bachelor's in Management. It was the biggest mistake of my life. I wish I would've taken the time to figure out what I really wanted to do in life instead of spending all that money on something I ended up hating. But, instead I listened to everyone telling me that you have to go to college in order to have a good life. Now I know what I wanna do with my life. Only problem is I want to go back to school now. Had I waited I could have just gone to school once. But now I'll need to go back and have twice as many student loans as I have now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #35 September 1, 2008 Darlin, I love ya but you're going apples to oranges. The OP really needs to build a marketable skill set for life and then make an informed choice as to if they should ditch the career track-not default in to it. Moving directly from one cloistered subculture to another does not a healthy person make.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #36 September 1, 2008 QuoteYou never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? *** Normally, I don't consort with packers, but since you addressed me first, I'll reply. I'm talking about someone that wants to not do anything with their life other than be at the DZ 24/7, not someone that supplements their income/hobby packing, big difference. You haven't been around skydiving very long and you probably don't think so, but it does eventually lose it's luster, especially when you have to make decisions like whether or not to take the 280 lb girl on a tandem because your rent is due. Are you gonna give it all up and move to the DZ? I didn't think so. BTW, the weather up here on my pedastool is ok, kinda warm though. Maybe I'll have a mojito out on the veranda. Now where are my servants? Additional BTW. How did you know that I was a wonderfully magnificent perfect person? Are you a stalker? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cari 0 #37 September 1, 2008 I have 2 degrees. My husband has 0. He makes considerably more than I was making or could hope to make. Education, while it does often help get more lucrative work, doesn't always equate to higher pay or a better life. Also, just because one person thinks that living in a camper to "live the dream" or whatever is a waste of a life, not all people would agree. A friend of mine had a decent job (nothing spectacular, but it paid the bills) and quit to make music. He scrapes by now, but I've never seen him so happy in the 10 years or so that I've known him. I know that I'd rather be happy and living in a tent than rich and bored, depressed, miserable, or anything else you could throw in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #38 September 1, 2008 Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #39 September 1, 2008 Quote Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Why would you think I don't get "laid"? I may spend an abnormal amount of time playing games but I'm still young, very healthy and go to university. Even people with shit social skills meet other rejects Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #40 September 1, 2008 and yet living a life sentence in a cube farm somehow loses it's luster as well...and a fuckload faster than ANY dz. we all make our own choices in our lives, some are quite happy and fulfilled doing something that would make you miserable. I wish him the best of luck finding himself in his own happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #41 September 1, 2008 QuoteGee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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iluvtofly 0 #30 September 1, 2008 QuoteThere's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. Is it really that pathetic if they're perfectly happy and living the life they want to live? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #31 September 1, 2008 QuoteThere's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. I think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redline165 0 #32 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteSeriously? Put down the game controller, give up skydiving (for now), get a job and go get an education and some life experience. You'll be happier and have more money (eventually) to do all you want. The sky will still be there. p.s. right now, go thank your parents for all they have done for you. *** At last! I can't believe the # of people telling this boy about how to dig himself a hole. There's nothing cool or romantic about having a tent or camper as your primary residence. As for hanging around the DZ and getting "Trained up", you can have all the ratings in then world and you still wont make a decent living. Get an education and establish yourself, the longer you put it off, the harder it becomes. There's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) DZ bum. Im still new here but i was waiting for someone to say t his. I struggled in school to make it through, but damn was it worth it. Are you good at anything, (like do you have a trade?) Ive loved cars all my life and after graduating high school (i assume you did that) decided to goto school for it. I was in the performance industry for a good while before the school which gave me a heads up into what i was looking at, and that helped alot. but i just puckered down, spent my 2 years in school, did very well there, and then moved on with life. i got a good job here in Raleigh and im now 21 making 60-70K a year. I'm lucky by all means to end up where im at. Find some other hobbies to occupy your time. i know what its like to eat sleep and bleed something. i was heavy into Crotch rockets for a while. quickly learned that going all into something isnt the way to go. Dont get me wrong, i LOVE Skydiving, but someone that has few a jumps as you and has no real world experience, id recommend getting some shoes on your feet and then going from there. Another word of advice is to find a non weather dependent hobby, haha. like poker, pool, going to the gym or video games (like you said) because there is no one more miserable then a person with nothing todo on a rainy saturday. Eitherway, good luck with whatever you choose. as i said. id say get your ass in school and find a good paying job. hell, most schools even have offers for internships that pay pretty damn decent. good luck man -K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #33 September 1, 2008 QuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites iluvtofly 0 #34 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. I dunno where you jump at but at my DZ that packers also buy beer. No one is exempt from buying beer. You never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? Edited to add: I went to college and got a Bachelor's in Management. It was the biggest mistake of my life. I wish I would've taken the time to figure out what I really wanted to do in life instead of spending all that money on something I ended up hating. But, instead I listened to everyone telling me that you have to go to college in order to have a good life. Now I know what I wanna do with my life. Only problem is I want to go back to school now. Had I waited I could have just gone to school once. But now I'll need to go back and have twice as many student loans as I have now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #35 September 1, 2008 Darlin, I love ya but you're going apples to oranges. The OP really needs to build a marketable skill set for life and then make an informed choice as to if they should ditch the career track-not default in to it. Moving directly from one cloistered subculture to another does not a healthy person make.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #36 September 1, 2008 QuoteYou never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? *** Normally, I don't consort with packers, but since you addressed me first, I'll reply. I'm talking about someone that wants to not do anything with their life other than be at the DZ 24/7, not someone that supplements their income/hobby packing, big difference. You haven't been around skydiving very long and you probably don't think so, but it does eventually lose it's luster, especially when you have to make decisions like whether or not to take the 280 lb girl on a tandem because your rent is due. Are you gonna give it all up and move to the DZ? I didn't think so. BTW, the weather up here on my pedastool is ok, kinda warm though. Maybe I'll have a mojito out on the veranda. Now where are my servants? Additional BTW. How did you know that I was a wonderfully magnificent perfect person? Are you a stalker? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cari 0 #37 September 1, 2008 I have 2 degrees. My husband has 0. He makes considerably more than I was making or could hope to make. Education, while it does often help get more lucrative work, doesn't always equate to higher pay or a better life. Also, just because one person thinks that living in a camper to "live the dream" or whatever is a waste of a life, not all people would agree. A friend of mine had a decent job (nothing spectacular, but it paid the bills) and quit to make music. He scrapes by now, but I've never seen him so happy in the 10 years or so that I've known him. I know that I'd rather be happy and living in a tent than rich and bored, depressed, miserable, or anything else you could throw in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #38 September 1, 2008 Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #39 September 1, 2008 Quote Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Why would you think I don't get "laid"? I may spend an abnormal amount of time playing games but I'm still young, very healthy and go to university. Even people with shit social skills meet other rejects Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #40 September 1, 2008 and yet living a life sentence in a cube farm somehow loses it's luster as well...and a fuckload faster than ANY dz. we all make our own choices in our lives, some are quite happy and fulfilled doing something that would make you miserable. I wish him the best of luck finding himself in his own happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #41 September 1, 2008 QuoteGee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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wrightskyguy 1 #33 September 1, 2008 QuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites iluvtofly 0 #34 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. I dunno where you jump at but at my DZ that packers also buy beer. No one is exempt from buying beer. You never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? Edited to add: I went to college and got a Bachelor's in Management. It was the biggest mistake of my life. I wish I would've taken the time to figure out what I really wanted to do in life instead of spending all that money on something I ended up hating. But, instead I listened to everyone telling me that you have to go to college in order to have a good life. Now I know what I wanna do with my life. Only problem is I want to go back to school now. Had I waited I could have just gone to school once. But now I'll need to go back and have twice as many student loans as I have now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #35 September 1, 2008 Darlin, I love ya but you're going apples to oranges. The OP really needs to build a marketable skill set for life and then make an informed choice as to if they should ditch the career track-not default in to it. Moving directly from one cloistered subculture to another does not a healthy person make.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #36 September 1, 2008 QuoteYou never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? *** Normally, I don't consort with packers, but since you addressed me first, I'll reply. I'm talking about someone that wants to not do anything with their life other than be at the DZ 24/7, not someone that supplements their income/hobby packing, big difference. You haven't been around skydiving very long and you probably don't think so, but it does eventually lose it's luster, especially when you have to make decisions like whether or not to take the 280 lb girl on a tandem because your rent is due. Are you gonna give it all up and move to the DZ? I didn't think so. BTW, the weather up here on my pedastool is ok, kinda warm though. Maybe I'll have a mojito out on the veranda. Now where are my servants? Additional BTW. How did you know that I was a wonderfully magnificent perfect person? Are you a stalker? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cari 0 #37 September 1, 2008 I have 2 degrees. My husband has 0. He makes considerably more than I was making or could hope to make. Education, while it does often help get more lucrative work, doesn't always equate to higher pay or a better life. Also, just because one person thinks that living in a camper to "live the dream" or whatever is a waste of a life, not all people would agree. A friend of mine had a decent job (nothing spectacular, but it paid the bills) and quit to make music. He scrapes by now, but I've never seen him so happy in the 10 years or so that I've known him. I know that I'd rather be happy and living in a tent than rich and bored, depressed, miserable, or anything else you could throw in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #38 September 1, 2008 Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #39 September 1, 2008 Quote Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Why would you think I don't get "laid"? I may spend an abnormal amount of time playing games but I'm still young, very healthy and go to university. Even people with shit social skills meet other rejects Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #40 September 1, 2008 and yet living a life sentence in a cube farm somehow loses it's luster as well...and a fuckload faster than ANY dz. we all make our own choices in our lives, some are quite happy and fulfilled doing something that would make you miserable. I wish him the best of luck finding himself in his own happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #41 September 1, 2008 QuoteGee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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iluvtofly 0 #34 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteI think there's nothing more pathetic than a middle aged (or otherwise) person who bought into the consumer culture so completely that they truly believe that whoever dies with the most crap (biggest house, most expensive car, etc) wins. Thoreau vs Trump... those who lean more toward Thoreau have far better stories to tell, imho. *** My bad, what was I thinking. Professional packer is a noble profession. Move into a ratty camper and pack, pack, pack. On weekends you can drink the beer that the people with jobs bring to the DZ and talk about how you've got life by the balls, and when you get hurt, don't worry about health insurance, someone else will pick up the tab. Just because you can't work doesn't mean you can't still live in the ghetto at the DZ, unless you have payments on your camper. I guess I was being too much of a realist. I suppose it is better to just say "fuck it, I'm moving to the DZ, this is all I'll ever want". Thanks for setting me straight. I dunno where you jump at but at my DZ that packers also buy beer. No one is exempt from buying beer. You never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? Edited to add: I went to college and got a Bachelor's in Management. It was the biggest mistake of my life. I wish I would've taken the time to figure out what I really wanted to do in life instead of spending all that money on something I ended up hating. But, instead I listened to everyone telling me that you have to go to college in order to have a good life. Now I know what I wanna do with my life. Only problem is I want to go back to school now. Had I waited I could have just gone to school once. But now I'll need to go back and have twice as many student loans as I have now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #35 September 1, 2008 Darlin, I love ya but you're going apples to oranges. The OP really needs to build a marketable skill set for life and then make an informed choice as to if they should ditch the career track-not default in to it. Moving directly from one cloistered subculture to another does not a healthy person make.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #36 September 1, 2008 QuoteYou never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? *** Normally, I don't consort with packers, but since you addressed me first, I'll reply. I'm talking about someone that wants to not do anything with their life other than be at the DZ 24/7, not someone that supplements their income/hobby packing, big difference. You haven't been around skydiving very long and you probably don't think so, but it does eventually lose it's luster, especially when you have to make decisions like whether or not to take the 280 lb girl on a tandem because your rent is due. Are you gonna give it all up and move to the DZ? I didn't think so. BTW, the weather up here on my pedastool is ok, kinda warm though. Maybe I'll have a mojito out on the veranda. Now where are my servants? Additional BTW. How did you know that I was a wonderfully magnificent perfect person? Are you a stalker? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cari 0 #37 September 1, 2008 I have 2 degrees. My husband has 0. He makes considerably more than I was making or could hope to make. Education, while it does often help get more lucrative work, doesn't always equate to higher pay or a better life. Also, just because one person thinks that living in a camper to "live the dream" or whatever is a waste of a life, not all people would agree. A friend of mine had a decent job (nothing spectacular, but it paid the bills) and quit to make music. He scrapes by now, but I've never seen him so happy in the 10 years or so that I've known him. I know that I'd rather be happy and living in a tent than rich and bored, depressed, miserable, or anything else you could throw in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #38 September 1, 2008 Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #39 September 1, 2008 Quote Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Why would you think I don't get "laid"? I may spend an abnormal amount of time playing games but I'm still young, very healthy and go to university. Even people with shit social skills meet other rejects Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #40 September 1, 2008 and yet living a life sentence in a cube farm somehow loses it's luster as well...and a fuckload faster than ANY dz. we all make our own choices in our lives, some are quite happy and fulfilled doing something that would make you miserable. I wish him the best of luck finding himself in his own happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #41 September 1, 2008 QuoteGee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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futuredivot 0 #35 September 1, 2008 Darlin, I love ya but you're going apples to oranges. The OP really needs to build a marketable skill set for life and then make an informed choice as to if they should ditch the career track-not default in to it. Moving directly from one cloistered subculture to another does not a healthy person make.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #36 September 1, 2008 QuoteYou never did answer me about what's so wrong with it so long as the person is happy and living the life they want to live? By the way, how's the weather up there on your golden pedastool? I personally am a packer AND have a full time job. I don't live in a fancy house or have a brand new car. In fact, I can barely pay my bills. But I'm happy and enjoy doing what I do. Does that make me pathetic since I don't have all the things that a wonderfully magnificent perfect person like yourself have? *** Normally, I don't consort with packers, but since you addressed me first, I'll reply. I'm talking about someone that wants to not do anything with their life other than be at the DZ 24/7, not someone that supplements their income/hobby packing, big difference. You haven't been around skydiving very long and you probably don't think so, but it does eventually lose it's luster, especially when you have to make decisions like whether or not to take the 280 lb girl on a tandem because your rent is due. Are you gonna give it all up and move to the DZ? I didn't think so. BTW, the weather up here on my pedastool is ok, kinda warm though. Maybe I'll have a mojito out on the veranda. Now where are my servants? Additional BTW. How did you know that I was a wonderfully magnificent perfect person? Are you a stalker? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cari 0 #37 September 1, 2008 I have 2 degrees. My husband has 0. He makes considerably more than I was making or could hope to make. Education, while it does often help get more lucrative work, doesn't always equate to higher pay or a better life. Also, just because one person thinks that living in a camper to "live the dream" or whatever is a waste of a life, not all people would agree. A friend of mine had a decent job (nothing spectacular, but it paid the bills) and quit to make music. He scrapes by now, but I've never seen him so happy in the 10 years or so that I've known him. I know that I'd rather be happy and living in a tent than rich and bored, depressed, miserable, or anything else you could throw in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #38 September 1, 2008 Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #39 September 1, 2008 Quote Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Why would you think I don't get "laid"? I may spend an abnormal amount of time playing games but I'm still young, very healthy and go to university. Even people with shit social skills meet other rejects Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #40 September 1, 2008 and yet living a life sentence in a cube farm somehow loses it's luster as well...and a fuckload faster than ANY dz. we all make our own choices in our lives, some are quite happy and fulfilled doing something that would make you miserable. I wish him the best of luck finding himself in his own happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #41 September 1, 2008 QuoteGee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Cari 0 #37 September 1, 2008 I have 2 degrees. My husband has 0. He makes considerably more than I was making or could hope to make. Education, while it does often help get more lucrative work, doesn't always equate to higher pay or a better life. Also, just because one person thinks that living in a camper to "live the dream" or whatever is a waste of a life, not all people would agree. A friend of mine had a decent job (nothing spectacular, but it paid the bills) and quit to make music. He scrapes by now, but I've never seen him so happy in the 10 years or so that I've known him. I know that I'd rather be happy and living in a tent than rich and bored, depressed, miserable, or anything else you could throw in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #38 September 1, 2008 Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #39 September 1, 2008 Quote Wow. Sad. Please dear god go get laid. Why would you think I don't get "laid"? I may spend an abnormal amount of time playing games but I'm still young, very healthy and go to university. Even people with shit social skills meet other rejects Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #40 September 1, 2008 and yet living a life sentence in a cube farm somehow loses it's luster as well...and a fuckload faster than ANY dz. we all make our own choices in our lives, some are quite happy and fulfilled doing something that would make you miserable. I wish him the best of luck finding himself in his own happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #41 September 1, 2008 QuoteGee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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FallloutboyDAoC 0 #42 September 1, 2008 I've been working on roofs since i was 13, long summer days working on black roofs in 90 degree weather. I work pretty much every weekday with my dad, and that was what i wanted to do for my career until i started skydiving. And about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #43 September 1, 2008 Quote Quote Gee, John . . . The guy asked for some advice on becoming a packer. He wasn't advertising for a parent. NickD ***You're right, I should'nt get so concerned about other peoples lives...it's just that I want to give, but if I hadn't spoken up, I never would have found out about iluv2fly's obsession with me. I might have come off as uppity and elitist, but I'm really not that way. As a matter of fact, on shower day, I like to take the packers for a ride in my car (I think it's so cute when they hang their heads out the window). If you're happy with your hand modeling job, let him be happy with being on the DZ. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #44 September 1, 2008 QuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #45 September 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd about an education, i think i'd honestly rather work a minimum wage job my whole life then sink $100,000 and 4+ years into college and not even be guarenteed a job when i graduate. I say no to paying off student loans and grants the next 20 years of my life. Yeah that's bollocks, the American college system is harsh. In Australia, University costs me $6000 a year, the government pays the rest. The $6000 goes on "HECS", a government lifetime interest free loan. Repayments aren't required until you graduate and earn a full time wage, did I mention no interest EVER. Also the government pays $200-250 a week to study at university, so not only can you attend university for zero costs up front, they actually pay you to study so you don't have to struggle working a crappy part time job to feed and shelter yourself while trying to get ahead in the world. I honestly feel sorry for people that don't do tertiary study purely because of financial costs.It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #46 September 1, 2008 Quote It's called HELP now and whilst there is no interest, the payments are indexed to CPI. Also 200-250 per week is not very much if you are on your own, if you are living with a stack of mate or still under mom and dads care it's not bad. But on your own in the adult world studying full time 250 is nothing. some of my books cost nearly 200. As to the OP doing tertiary Ed. if your not keen on that there is also trade school, I good trade can earn you good money and be very satisfying. there are many many people who dont have tertiary educations that live excellent lifestyles. Yeah it's not much money, but it's easily enough to cover rent/food/travel, I did it for 2 full years out on my own. Then skydiving ruined it No seriously, I would still be unemployed living the chill student life if I didn't do that AFF1 on a whim after having a win at the casino. My first rig is arriving TODAY! though, w00t Infinity/Sabre2 170/PDR 160/Cypres2, can't buy that on government welfare unfortunately. All the fun things in life are free,I have never needed any money, damn skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
