virgin-burner 1 #1 September 6, 2008 apparently, or just to shy to post on here. i dont blame them, somebody wearing nylon on a regular basis, well, thats like billys ballroom-dancing. they got this VOTE going on. and seem to be too shy to post it where the majority hangs out.. so please, help a fellow skydiver out and give your vote! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #2 September 6, 2008 Quote apparently, or just to shy to post on here. i dont blame them, somebody wearing nylon on a regular basis, well, thats like billys ballroom-dancing. ! you do realise the rig you wear is made entirely of nylon, (with a little bit of bling)I voted but not for the skydiving one, i thought that pic was actually one of the worst.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperGirl 0 #3 September 6, 2008 Quote I voted but not for the skydiving one, i thought that pic was actually one of the worst. dude there's a space shuttle in the background... do you realize how hard it is to time that? it's not exactly your ordinary wingsuit pic... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,571 #4 September 6, 2008 QuoteQuote I voted but not for the skydiving one, i thought that pic was actually one of the worst. dude there's a space shuttle in the background... do you realize how hard it is to time that? it's not exactly your ordinary wingsuit pic... Surely the DZ did the timing, not the photographer. Unfortunately I have to agree that the composition of the photo just doesn't add up to some of the others on show.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperGirl 0 #5 September 6, 2008 Quote Surely the DZ did the timing, not the photographer. actually... it was the jumpers, not the dz... read more in DSE's post here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 September 6, 2008 QuoteQuote I voted but not for the skydiving one, i thought that pic was actually one of the worst. dude there's a space shuttle in the background... do you realize how hard it is to time that? it's not exactly your ordinary wingsuit pic... It's still a very ordinary pic. and they have done many jumps when launches are happening, they are not THAT rare.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperGirl 0 #7 September 6, 2008 still, iit would be cool if we could show a fellow jumper some support and vote for his pic!!! this is the USA Today... that's a lot of exposure for the sport in general right now the people on the bird watcher's forum are doing a better job than we are, wtf? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #8 September 6, 2008 dont worry, squeak's a grumpy old man with a bad haircut. i wonder why he doesnt fly wingsuits.. *hint-hint*“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 September 6, 2008 There have been a total of 123 Shuttle launches since 1981, 15 of those have been night launches. A large number of flights have also been conducted through conditions that skydiving ops would not fly in. They used to be able to jump from Titusville but that area is now under a grounding during launch and have to now jump at Sebastian much further away. There are an average of 4 launches a year currently, 1986 was the busiest at 9 launches. From 2003-present there have been 11 launches and there are only 8-10 more scheduled launches of the shuttles ever. All told since 1981 there have been less then 50-60 chances to get a shot like that. If you want to see how short of a time peroid it is http://www.brunobrokken.com/video/space%20shuttle.wmv Its a rare photo, but some of the others are really nice as well.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #10 September 6, 2008 The fact that it is a rare photo doesn't qualify it as a prize-winning photo. Interesting, thought-provoking....but not necessarily the best-composed of the choices. The eagle one looks like a photo shop job to me, but I assume it isn't, as it's up there. For some reason it just doesn't look real to me. I guess there's two schools of thought here: vote for what you think is the best composition, or vote for the one that represents skydiving and a fellow skydiver. For some people, they're probably one and the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IslandGuy 0 #11 September 7, 2008 Thanks for posting this in the Bonfire VB. Hope it helps Scotty out. Do a Google Images search on eagles fishing and you get hundreds if not thousands of pictures… of eagles fishing. Arguably, half of them are better in some way than the one posted in the photo competition I’m surprised by how many skydivers suddenly become photography experts/critics. Composition, color, whatever. Me, I skydive, and I’d rather look at some ratty ass skydiving picture of any discipline, than just about anything else. And, if I’d rather look at it, I’m voting for it. To me, uniqueness does count – big time! If it is rare, it is valuable. My hat’s off to Scotty for capturing that image. There are no others like it in the world. So many things had to happen perfectly to get that shot… well… I can’t say there wasn’t some luck involved. Half your subject matter is 40+ miles away and the other half close by, then the lenses, the lighting, the shutter speed, aperture all need to be correct. Then you have to get a few wingsuit guys flying along at 100 mph tight enough to be in frame, then you have to fly your camera to the spot in the sky where you think all these moving objects look halfway decent together. And, you have about 100 seconds to do that. All that alone is pretty amazing, but then there is weather, launch delays and problems, less than ideal spots, winds, the list is long. This is not just another day at the DZ. I guess if you don’t get it, you don’t get it. I thought the other pics were great. Hell, they are the best of probably thousands submitted. Vote however you like, but me, I skydive and I’m voting for a skydiving picture taken by a fellow skydiver, regardless of the fact that the shot was nearly impossible to get, and get right. Awesome work Scotty! Hope you win and not somebody that’s taking pictures holding their camera with both hands, feet on the ground, and looking thru a viewfinder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 September 7, 2008 Quote dont worry, squeak's a grumpy old man with a bad haircut. i wonder why he doesnt fly wingsuits.. *hint-hint* I'd venture to say I have quite a few more wingsuit flights than you do. I didnt vote for it because it's not a very good photo, that said I think the only pic that is worse is the Eagle and that's winningYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #13 September 7, 2008 Quote Quote dont worry, squeak's a grumpy old man with a bad haircut. i wonder why he doesnt fly wingsuits.. *hint-hint* I'd venture to say I have quite a few more wingsuit flights than you do. I didnt vote for it because it's not a very good photo, that said I think the only pic that is worse is the Eagle and that's winning Pffft. Party pooper. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #14 September 7, 2008 Quote Quote Quote dont worry, squeak's a grumpy old man with a bad haircut. i wonder why he doesnt fly wingsuits.. *hint-hint* I'd venture to say I have quite a few more wingsuit flights than you do. I didnt vote for it because it's not a very good photo, that said I think the only pic that is worse is the Eagle and that's winning Pffft. Party pooper. u trying to bust my balls!? i'm man enough to say,, well, squeak, that might be true, but you havent started out as early as i (and laid it off again) did! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #15 September 7, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote dont worry, squeak's a grumpy old man with a bad haircut. i wonder why he doesnt fly wingsuits.. *hint-hint* I'd venture to say I have quite a few more wingsuit flights than you do. I didnt vote for it because it's not a very good photo, that said I think the only pic that is worse is the Eagle and that's winning Pffft. Party pooper. u trying to bust my balls!? i'm man enough to say,, well, squeak, that might be true, but you havent started out as early as i (and laid it off again) did! You make no sense, and it irritates me. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #16 September 7, 2008 get that sand out of your vagina! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #17 September 7, 2008 And they all jump at this place . . . http://www.ascskydiving.com/gayskydiving.html NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #18 September 7, 2008 Quote and they have done many jumps when launches are happening, they are not THAT rare. Show one other shuttle/wingsuit jump. Ever. Please. Additionally, the staff at USA Today obviously chose the shuttle shot as their favorite, and the National Geo photographer commented specifically on the composition, how the shoreline and water form a triangle, how the shuttle frames the wingsuiters with the waterline, and how it all leads the eye to follow GreyMike. yeah, I'm biased because I'm in the shot. But I'm also a photographer/director by trade, and it's moronic to suggest the photo isn't well composed. You might not like it, that's fine. But to say it's not well-composed is just plain __________whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #19 September 7, 2008 that' s funny right there...scary, but funny... Mike you said it right bro....couldn't agree more! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #20 September 7, 2008 Quote Quote Pffft. Party pooper. u trying to bust my balls!? i'm man enough to say,, well, squeak, that might be true, but you havent started out as early as i (and laid it off again) did! You make no sense, . Not even a little bitYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #21 September 7, 2008 Quote Quote yeah, I'm biased because I'm in the shot. But I'm also a photographer/director by trade, and it's moronic to suggest the photo isn't well composed. You might not like it, that's fine. But to say it's not well-composed is just plain __________whatever. I hazard a guess and say the pic was not composed at all and probably just a random frame from a series of shots taken during the flight, in the hopes of catching "THAT" shot. Which i dont think they did. But hey I'm not in the pic and have no vested interest in it at all, and i still think it's a crappy picYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #22 September 7, 2008 Quote I hazard a guess and say the pic was not composed at all and probably just a random frame from a series of shots taken during the flight, in the hopes of catching "THAT" shot. ] And like your flawed comments on composition earlier, you're wrong again. Care to go for three? Practice jumps were done prior to the actual launch, in addition to discussion of positioning during the jump. Believe it or not...there is a difference between a guy who throws a camera on his head and calling himself a "skydiving photographer" and an actual photographer who sees things a little differently than the average joe. In this case, there were two folks that look at the world that way. Course', your next comment is that there probably were a lot of photos to choose from or something equally banal (and incorrect). Hazard your next guess as to how many shots were taken on that jump. It's not "spray n' pray" like many photographers seem to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #23 September 7, 2008 Quote Quote I hazard a guess and say the pic was not composed at all and probably just a random frame from a series of shots taken during the flight, in the hopes of catching "THAT" shot. ] And like your flawed comments on composition earlier, you're wrong again. Care to go for three? Practice jumps were done prior to the actual launch, in addition to discussion of positioning during the jump. Believe it or not...there is a difference between a guy who throws a camera on his head and calling himself a "skydiving photographer" and an actual photographer who sees things a little differently than the average joe. In this case, there were two folks that look at the world that way. Course', your next comment is that there probably were a lot of photos to choose from or something equally banal (and incorrect). Hazard your next guess as to how many shots were taken on that jump. It's not "spray n' pray" like many photographers seem to do. blah blah blah suremy comments on my views of the composition are not flawed, I dont like the composition it, to me is untidy and distracting, when compared to some of the other pics in the contest, i dont think this is as good. You obviously differ in your opinion, hooray you. I too have a little experience in still photography (granted mostly B&W), and i dont like that image. I could not care less about others personal opinions of the image as i look at through my eyes not theirs. For me there are a few other pics on that page that apeal to me much more. I dont like it and I think it's crappy.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hagen 0 #24 September 7, 2008 strange... I posted info about the voting at our local skydiving forum, and the first comment a got was the same - about disliking the photo. maybe average jumpers just do not like men in skirts?otherwise I cannot understand the phenomenon - it seems to me that normally skydivers would vote just to show their solidarity and support. but not in this case, unfortunatelyhowever, I think that the picture will win. and I usually have good intuation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #25 September 7, 2008 i like the pic, and i voted for it! besides the point, i'm a fellow skydiver and support my mates. obviously, not everybody is like that.. and some just like to trash-talk others! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
