iluvtofly 0 #1 September 25, 2008 I know this is related to my other thread. And I know that I'm comming off a bit whiney. But I've got serious guilt about looking for a new job. I have an interview set up for Monday. I took the day off work so I could go. That was no big deal. However, I have not told my current boss that I'm looking for the new job. Today I was joking around with him about something and he said, "You better watch yourself." He was joking of course but my one supervisor overheard this and not knowing the context she was worried that I was getting in trouble. She then said, "Well I'm glad he was only joking we need you around here." I have serious issues with guilt. I think it comes from growing up with a mother who guilted me into doing everything she wanted me to do. Yet along with this guilt I know that I really should go for the new job. Especially because I just got my schedule for next week and I'm just barely getting 40 hours for the week. (Note: I need at least 10 to 15 hours of overtime each week to be able to pay my bills.) How do I go about getting over this guilt? Ok...whinning session over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #2 September 25, 2008 Do you want them to treat you like shit? No? Then there should be no guilt. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #3 September 25, 2008 If they really needed you then they would pay you better and treat you better. Seriously, someone will be there to fill your position in 30 seconds after your ass clears the door. Let that person take the crap you are now. Lose the guilt. It's making you look really pathetic, and I say that in the nicest way possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #4 September 25, 2008 Soak your feet in a bucket of warm water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyrodude 0 #5 September 25, 2008 I've read your other thread too. Of COURSE they love you at work. You are a huge bargain to them, paying you a third of what you're worth. I guarantee that when your boss and co-workers go home they don't fret and stew over how YOU are making ends meet. You have to look out for yourself. It may sound trite, but it is impossible to be taken advantage of unless you allow it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthonyfellows 0 #6 September 25, 2008 Wow ... You care way toooooooo much :)Serious relationships turn into work after a few weeks and I already got a fucking job :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ H.A.F. = Hard As Fuck ... Goddamn Amateurs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #7 September 25, 2008 warning, tough love coming your way. I think you should stay where you are at. Be miserable while others laugh behind your back at how much they are not paying you. Never mind that you can probably go find something else more enjoyable and possibly pay more. Never mind that it will make you happier, hopefully, and oh my god someone might actually appreciate you. You may not feel unappreciated right now, but you certainly are not happy with where you are at and what you are making. So you should just sit put, put up with the day to day and never excel, never do anything for yourself. Only help those "other" people. STFU, don't tell your employers a damn thing, and get a new better job. And when you get that job, keep your eyes out for something even better. Why would you not want to constantly excel?Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #8 September 25, 2008 thank you...that's what i needed to hear. Tough love is real love. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #9 September 25, 2008 A wise co-worked once told me something that I think makes a lot of sence when dealing with any employer.. "Come Payday, We are even." What that boils down to is that for both the Employee and the Employer.. Neither should have any expectation other than getting paid for the work that has already been done at the agreed upon rate. There is no "Job for Life" anymore. You should never expect anything beyond your next paycheck from your employer and they should not expect more from you than the work you were hired to do. "Come Payday, We are Even". Trust me, If they could find someone to do your job more efficiently or less expensive than you, They would. You should have no quams about taking a different job that better suits your goals. If you want to give them a chance to match whatever new offer you find, that is fine but don’t ever sell yourself short or limit yourself with some form of misguided loyalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #10 September 25, 2008 Worry about #1 first, if you're taken care of then you will put more effort and pride in your work and take care of the company. Sounds like #1 will be better taken care of elsewhere so you'll be needed even more somewhere in your new job. That work to justify things for you? So there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #11 September 25, 2008 Quote How do I go about getting over this guilt? Ok...whinning session over. Sell all of your skydiving gear, or harden the fuck up. Or act like a mature adult and get on with your lifeYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #12 September 25, 2008 YOU'RE telling ME to act like a mature adult??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 September 26, 2008 Quote YOU'RE telling ME to act like a mature adult??? Yes pleaseWhat different responses are you expecting, compared to your other thread?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #14 September 26, 2008 the best way my wife ever got a raise was to move to another company. then, get your ass self employed. since we have been self employed, we feel so much better about not making someone else rich, so they could just go out and act like a jerk. when you drive up and down some street with businesses, ask yourself... are there that many smart people in the world...NO....they just put their balls on the table and went forward. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #15 September 26, 2008 Quote I know this is related to my other thread. It is. Quote And I know that I'm comming off a bit whiney. You are, and pathetic on top of it - I also mean that in the nicest way possible. Quote I have an interview set up for Monday. I took the day off work so I could go. That was no big deal. However, I have not told my current boss that I'm looking for the new job. Today I was joking around with him about something and he said, "You better watch yourself." He was joking of course but my one supervisor overheard this and not knowing the context she was worried that I was getting in trouble. She then said, "Well I'm glad he was only joking we need you around here." I have serious issues with guilt. I think it comes from growing up with a mother who guilted me into doing everything she wanted me to do. Yet along with this guilt I know that I really should go for the new job. Especially because I just got my schedule for next week and I'm just barely getting 40 hours for the week. (Note: I need at least 10 to 15 hours of overtime each week to be able to pay my bills.) I don't understand for the life of me why you're bringing guilt on yourself about looking for another job; as someone else already pointed out - if they really needed you they would pay appropriately and treat you better. This is business, and in the workplace there's only 1 way for your boss to show his appreciation, and that is by giving you a raise, Furthermore, your replacement comes a dime a dozen; the day after you leave someone will have your position. Also - do you really think and/or believe that either your boss or your coworkers care that you need that 10-15 hours of overtime per week to be able to make your bills?... Bottom line - if you're not looking out for yourself no one else will. I once heard a saying: "if you know how to count, count on yourself, if someone else helps you along the way than you'll be pleasantly surprised.." Sounds like you need a new job...so go for it. I just would not seek anything that is managerial in nature. Edited to add: From your 1st tread on this subject, and still now - I don't understand why you feel obligated to tell your boss that you are looking for a new job... He is NOT your friend. Just keep your mouth shut and look for that new job.Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #16 September 26, 2008 You know, come to think of it - you are getting paid and being treated appropriately; if you have time to sit and post stuff like this, then $8.00 is more than enough! Not to mention - I remember you bragging about the fact of being able to sleep while on the clock... Great, so someone could be laying, dying somewhere...and dispatch is sleeping on the job. Yeah, stay there.... Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #17 September 26, 2008 I understand how you feel. I don't know how old you are, but I'm young and I can relate to how you're feeling... maybe not exactly, but on some level. I think we'll both grow up and out of it eventually... It's probably all a confidence issue. I wish I had more advice. suck it up and get a new job!And do not, I repeat, do not tell ANYONE you're looking. They do not need to know... not even friendly coworkers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #18 September 26, 2008 Geeze Rallfers. I think you need a jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites