jclalor 12 #1 October 18, 2008 A race car averages 30 MPH around an oval race track on the first lap. How fast must he go on the second lap to average 60 MPH for the 2 laps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #2 October 18, 2008 90mphShe is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 October 18, 2008 Nope, That would be too easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakflyer9999 1 #4 October 18, 2008 It is impossible to average 60 MPH for both laps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #5 October 18, 2008 QuoteA race car averages 30 MPH around an oval race track on the first lap. How fast must he go on the second lap to average 60 MPH for the 2 laps? I'm going to say 30 ..but I first thought 90 as well.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #6 October 18, 2008 hurry, edit your answer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #7 October 18, 2008 I just want to know the answer to the riddle... Ok smarty mc cheesy...what's the answer....lolTPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #8 October 18, 2008 I'm voting for 30, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #9 October 18, 2008 The answer is: If your race car only averages 60 mph, then you need to get a better race car.I think we need to know how big the track is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ASTKU 1 #10 October 18, 2008 He needs to average 90mph on the second lap, right?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdive 0 #11 October 18, 2008 QuoteIt is impossible to average 60 MPH for both laps. I agree. If you did a 1 mile oval track, 30 MPH would take 2 minutes. To average 60MPH, you wuld need to average 1 lap a minute, and you already wasted the 2 mintues on the first lap, therefore impossible to get the avg up to 60."We saved your gear. Now you can sell it when you get out of the hospital and upsize!!" "K-Dub" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #12 October 18, 2008 Can we ASSYOUME the car can instantaneously speed up to the new speed? Elvisio "makes it MUCH easier" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #13 October 18, 2008 Quote I agree. If you did a 1 mile oval track, 30 MPH would take 2 minutes. To average 60MPH, you wuld need to average 1 lap a minute, and you already wasted the 2 mintues on the first lap, therefore impossible to get the avg up to 60. I dig your point, but I don't think that's what the riddle is asking, at least how I'm reading it. You are right in that you wouldn't ever complete the two laps in two minutes, but the question isn't asking that. It wants to know what speed you'd have to go to have an average speed of 60 mph. So as I was mentioning above, assuming you could instantly speed up to 90mph at the start of the second lap, you'd have an average speed for the two laps of 60mph. Right? Average of two numbers = (first number + second number)/2. Ergo: 60 = (30+x)/2 2x60 = (30+x)/2 x2 (multiply both sides by two) 120 = 30 + x then 120 -30 = 30 + x -30 (subtract 30 from both sides) so x = 90 You're right that it'd take 45 seconds to do the second lap, which added to the two minutes you took to do the first lap would be 2:45. Yes, you could never do the second lap fast enough to average one minute per lap once you've taken two minutes to do the first lap (unless you could instantly teleport yourself or something cool like that) but that's not what the question is asking. With a second lap of 90mph the AVERAGE of the two lap speeds WOULD be 60. Comes down to the whole add/subtract before you multiply/divide thingy. Or is it the other way around?At least that's my take on it. Elvisio "always called to do the problem at the board immediatly after fantasizing about the hot chick in class" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #14 October 18, 2008 The 3rd post said the answer was not 90 that that would be too easy. But nice job on showing your work. TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #15 October 18, 2008 But dangit, I'm saying that it IS! Based on what the question says, it is 90! Either I'm reading it to simply or something else. Elvisio "none of the above" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #16 October 18, 2008 I just want to know the answer the riddle now... TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ASTKU 1 #17 October 18, 2008 QuoteBut dangit, I'm saying that it IS! I think we're right, too. And the question doesn't say anything about a one mile track. WHATS THE ANSWER ORIGINAL POSTER? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjjman 0 #18 October 19, 2008 The length of the track does not matter. The driver averaged 2 minute miles for X miles. After another X miles, the driver needs to have averaged 1 minute miles for 2X miles. Therefore, he needs to do 0 minute miles for the second lap. So freakflyer9999 is right."Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #19 October 19, 2008 Freakflyer9999 is right, sorry taking so long, just got back from jumping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjjman 0 #20 October 19, 2008 Those that said 90mph, check your math: Assuming the track is 30mi. long (for easy math) your driver has covered 60 miles, the first half in an hour, and the second half in 20 minutes. That's 60 miles in 80 minutes, or 45mph."Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites