DFWAJG 4 #26 October 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteAh...thank you...I read that just now. It's another issue...control of your kids. Honestly, though, what are you supposed to do? Lock your kid in their room every time you have to go to the bathroom? Did you never not listen to your parents as a kid? No, while I was excessively disciplined as a kid, I minded my parents with almost everything they said. I would never have snuck out at night. Sneaking out of the house shows, to me, a lack of respect for his parents. Likely, the street went both ways on this. They could use parenting skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #27 October 29, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Ah...thank you...I read that just now. It's another issue...control of your kids. Honestly, though, what are you supposed to do? Lock your kid in their room every time you have to go to the bathroom? Did you never not listen to your parents as a kid? No, while I was excessively disciplined as a kid, I minded my parents with almost everything they said. I would never have snuck out at night. Sneaking out of the house shows, to me, a lack of respect for his parents. Likely, the street went both ways on this. They could use parenting skills. Good point, and I agree. That kid likely was not afraid of his mom. Therefore no respect. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #28 October 29, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Ah...thank you...I read that just now. It's another issue...control of your kids. Honestly, though, what are you supposed to do? Lock your kid in their room every time you have to go to the bathroom? Did you never not listen to your parents as a kid? No, while I was excessively disciplined as a kid, I minded my parents with almost everything they said. I would never have snuck out at night. Sneaking out of the house shows, to me, a lack of respect for his parents. Likely, the street went both ways on this. They could use parenting skills. Good point, and I agree. That kid likely was not afraid of his mom. Therefore no respect. Fear, No. Children shouldn't fear their parents, but know that they have been shown love and are capable of trusting what their parents say. While I'm just speculating, I doubt this is the first time this kid has snuck our of the house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #29 October 29, 2008 It could have been anybody that hit him it was just dumb luck it was a cop and with video to boot. Im sure they will crucify the PD because of the video but the kid left home without permission and was crossing a busy 4 lane road at night with no lights, any car on that road could have hit him.Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #30 October 29, 2008 QuoteIt could have been anybody that hit him it was just dumb luck it was a cop and with video to boot. Im sure they will crucify the PD because of the video but the kids left home without permission and was crossing a busy 4 lane road at night with no lights, any car on that road could have hit him. Even if the cars were going 40 mph, they could have hit him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbiceps 0 #31 October 29, 2008 very true. Even though i hate cops i dont think this cop should go down for this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #32 October 29, 2008 Quotevery true. Even though i hate cops i dont think this cop should go down for this. Well at the least he should be disciplined for not having his lights and siren on as required. What I'm not sure of is the regulations for getting close to the destination if they need to approach quietly. I know some police do this. Shut off siren and lights within a mile or less when they need the element of surprise."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #33 October 29, 2008 QuoteWhat I'm not sure of is the regulations for getting close to the destination if they need to approach quietly. You must have missed what I said earlier. The use of a code 3 response is very very restricted due to liability. So officers are reduced to having to magically and instantly appear on scene of a serious scene with out the benefit of being able to run code 3. If your neighbors were in a heated argument and you could hear screaming and things breaking next door and you were scared for their safety, you would call 911 right? How quick do you think the officer should be there? That is not a call that an officer can respond code 3 to. In fact the officer will be severely punished if he tries to respond code 3 to that call and the supervisor doesn't agree. The supervisor will tell the officer to reduce code. If the officer doesn't, that officer will be off the streets for a few days with out any pay. Just for trying to help out a victim by arriving on scene as quickly as possible! Just enlightening the masses here as to why an officer might travel faster than the posted speed limit while not responding code 3. A code 2 response basically doesn't exist for most agencies anymore. That was a lights only code run. Once again, due to lawsuits that response has been practically removed from every agency in the country! Most of the public don't understand the stresses of being a LEO. They also have no desire to experience or partake in those stresses. You can be a 20 year veteran and a highly decorated officer, and then in a single mistake under stress loose your job, your retirement, be civilly liable and possibly go to jail. Now this officer will most likely loose his job, he will be sued and he will now have to bear the permanent emotional damage for this child's simple mistake. The DA's officer will also present a criminally negligent homicide case to a Grand Jury and the officer could also go to prison! Was the officer in the right by traveling so fast over the speed limit? No. He wasn't necessarily 100% in the wrong either. I doubt that most of you understand what it is like to be in a career where so much is at stake every single day without being deployed overseas by the military!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cari 0 #34 October 29, 2008 QuoteUnfortunately, parents who already let their ten-year-old ride at night are not going to learn from the mistake of these parents. I have a ten-year-old. He's NEVER ridden his bike at night. This situation is tragic. Even when I was a kid, I knew that I couldn't ride my bike in the street no matter what time of day (or night) it happened to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #35 October 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteAh...thank you...I read that just now. It's another issue...control of your kids. Several mistakes that all met together and ended in tragedy. ISn't that the way it always is. Tick tick tick tick BOOM! Streetlights out, Kid on bike at night, Driver of a vehicle going to fast. In this case it was a cop, but I used to live on a street where at the end was a convience store. People would speed up and down the short block all the time just to save 5 seconds to get to the conveniance store. How do we know the kid would have stopped for a cop utilizing a code 3 responce. My old partners and I would call Lights and Sirens our cloaking device.Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
