skybytch 273 #1 December 29, 2008 The photo credit on the pic in this article seems a bit strange to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #2 December 29, 2008 Courtesy??? WTF??? g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #3 December 29, 2008 wait... does that mean if I post a picture on dz.com then the photo becomes the property of dz.com and can be distributed by dz.com? btw: in case you didn't figure it out I agree it seems a little strange... and also seems like a good way for a news agent to avoid paying for a photograph. "I found it on the internet (via google, or some other search engine) so I don't have to pay for it..." hrm... a recent discussion at POTN seems to suggest otherwise... http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=609801 fwiw: the guy in the POTN thread ended up getting paid although he didn't really get paid the true "market" rate... and it took some work on his part... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 December 29, 2008 QuoteCourtesy??? WTF??? g So they are selling those pictures? Giving them away? Or did the media just take them and then try to give credit to DZ.com? Who REALLY took the pic?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #5 December 29, 2008 I also love this little gem by one of our own: QuoteAs a skydiver, I can tell you that this is an unusually high number in this period of time. I have jumped in Perris for years, and have never been there during a fatality. Skydiving is an extremely safe sport, and I would recommend it to anyone. Don't believe everything you here in the news either. They have a tendency to get only part of the information correct. Posted by Dave at 12:12 pm Dec 29, 2008BASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #6 December 29, 2008 Quote wait... does that mean if I post a picture on dz.com then the photo becomes the property of dz.com and can be distributed by dz.com? Well that's how sites like Facebook works so I wouldn't be surprised...... “The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #7 December 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteCourtesy??? WTF??? g So they are selling those pictures? Giving them away? Or did the media just take them and then try to give credit to DZ.com? Who REALLY took the pic?I imagine you could contact the ktla.com webmaster and ask the question... http://www.ktla.com/contact_webmaster I'd be curious to know the response... if someone does it...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #8 December 29, 2008 Quote Quote wait... does that mean if I post a picture on dz.com then the photo becomes the property of dz.com and can be distributed by dz.com? Well that's how sites like Facebook works so I wouldn't be surprised...... I could be wrong but I would imagine that at facebook they certainly have the right to display it on facebook but I doubt they have the right to distribute it to news media... (for profit or not...) and if that is the case... then I'll be linking more photos and attaching pictures here... and at facebook... less... I know that the POTN forum has specific rules regarding copyright of images and posting of images. (linking or attaching) and retain only the rights to display images posted and have not got the rights to redistribute the images... which is a very important distinction.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j_ung 0 #9 December 29, 2008 It seems incredibly strange to me. The TV station emailed me this morning for permission to use it and I told them specifically that permission is not mine to give. I did, however, put them in touch with Karen Lewis, who owns the shot. She emailed back (CC-ed me) saying they could use it if they met certain conditions. That was almost two hours ago, so it's possible they did. Regardless, I just emailed the TV station again and told them that if they did not already have permission, they need to remove it immediately, and if they do have permission, I need the photo credit to reflect it correctly. And that's the end of my involvement with this. I don't know if Karen gave them permission, BUT I CERTAINLY DID NOT. If I had that would make me about the biggest dickhead I can possibly imagine. Obviously, many of you can also imagine it. [sarcasm]Thanks a ton for that. [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j_ung 0 #10 December 29, 2008 Quote if someone does it... I did it. QuoteKaren and Elaine, it seems as though the photo in question in already in use here: http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Orange-County-Woman-Killed-in-Skydiving-=1&blockID=172465&feedID=171 Elaine, if you haven't already gotten Karen's express permission to use the shot, then I need you to remove it immediately. And I do mean immediately. If you have, then I need the photo credit directed to Karen, NOT Dropzone.com. I appreciate your attention to this urgent matter. Jay Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #11 December 29, 2008 I would be curious to know if they actually did get permission or if they used it knowing they would either have to remove it or pay someone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #12 December 29, 2008 Thanks!!! You've just given me a nice warm fuzzy!!! I figured that would be the case with regard to dz.com... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j_ung 0 #13 December 29, 2008 More news: ktla (the article cited above) is not the station I put in touch with Karen Lewis. Apparently there are multiple TV stations involved here. I put Karen in touch with kabc. I've never had any contact whatsoever with ktla nor any other station, news outlet, blog, etc. I'm still trying to find out why the hell it's credited to this site, but their website has nothing listed for a contact number, except a main line, which is useless. It is entirely possible that they were in contact with Karen separately and she gave them permission, though that doesn't explain why it's credited to DZ. If they're not in contact with Karen, then the photo is being used without permission. It's that simple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j_ung 0 #14 December 29, 2008 I've sent a second message to the KTLA webmaster: QuoteThe photo in this story is erroneously credited to Dropzone.com: http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Orange-County-Woman-Killed-in-Skydiving-=1&blockID=172465&feedID=171 Further, if KTLA does not have express permission from Karen Lewis, the owner of the photo, then it is being used illegally. Please call if you have any questions: . Jay Young Producer Dropzone.com I'm not sure there's anything else I can do here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #15 December 29, 2008 WTF? You don't trust us with your home number? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j_ung 0 #16 December 29, 2008 Very well. It's 800-738-6626. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #17 December 29, 2008 Quote Very well. It's 800-738-6626. And you know someone called to check . . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #18 December 29, 2008 Well Who was it?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 December 29, 2008 Quote Well Who was it?? Roo.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #20 December 29, 2008 You want to know how used the picture? Ask U2boy14. He posted in the Blueskies thread asking for people to interview about the incident. He is a reported for the OC RegisterDom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #21 December 29, 2008 I don't think he is here anymore. Those people make me want to puke. The world would be a better place without lawyers and reporters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerRoo 0 #22 December 29, 2008 Quote Quote Well Who was it?? Roo. what? nope waddnt me, I was busy pming (I.C.D#2 VP) ""I'm good with my purple penis straw" ~sky mama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #23 December 30, 2008 QuoteI don't think he is here anymore. Those people make me want to puke. The world would be a better place without lawyers and reporters I have his cell phone numberDom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #24 December 30, 2008 Call him and tell him what a fuck he is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #25 December 30, 2008 lol. I will give the number to Jay or Karen if they wants it.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
