jtnesbitt 0 #51 January 20, 2009 QuoteThey are a lot more fun to hang out with than some of the arrogant young punks who have entered the sport recently. As I mentioned I love playing with well behaved dogs at the DZ. Unfortunately as in most cases in life a few bad apples have ruined the bunch and made an unfortunate stereotype about dogs at the DZ. Sometimes a blanket approach, although unfair to many, is the only way to solve the issue. But what do i know, i am just an arrogant young punk who entered the sport recently. (edit for poor spelling)"If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #52 January 20, 2009 This is not directed at you personally as I have never met you or seen your dogs... BUT.. EVERY single dog owner that has ever brought a dog (and/or Child) to the DZ claims "They are well mannered and properly trained". The reality is that MOST are not even close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtnesbitt 0 #53 January 20, 2009 QuoteThis is not directed at you personally as I have never met you or seen your dogs... BUT.. EVERY single dog owner that has ever brought a dog (and/or Child) to the DZ claims "They are well mannered and properly trained". The reality is that MOST are not even close. This was the point i was stressing on the first page of this thread. The issue is that everyone has different expectations of reasonable behavior. Very few people step out of the box to actually make that call."If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micduran 0 #54 January 20, 2009 Quote This is not directed at you personally as I have never met you or seen your dogs... BUT.. EVERY single dog owner that has ever brought a dog (and/or Child) to the DZ claims "They are well mannered and properly trained". The reality is that MOST are not even close. Whenever one of these threads get started I roll my eyes because I know we will read how EVERYONE cleans up after their dog, keeps their in or near the camper, out of the hangar. If only that was reality. Be patient with the faults of others; they have to be patient with yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #55 January 20, 2009 QuoteI love animals, especially dogs, but if they can't behave properly around people then they need to be put down. ***What if you applied the same standard to skydivers? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #56 January 20, 2009 Quote Quote This is not directed at you personally as I have never met you or seen your dogs... BUT.. EVERY single dog owner that has ever brought a dog (and/or Child) to the DZ claims "They are well mannered and properly trained". The reality is that MOST are not even close. Whenever one of these threads get started I roll my eyes because I know we will read how EVERYONE cleans up after their dog, keeps their in or near the camper, out of the hangar. If only that was reality. Don't we know it. Every time that I can remember coming out to that DZ, there have always been at least 2 or 3 dogs that run around in the hangar. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 858 #57 January 20, 2009 Tracking dog shit into the packing tent is always nice too. The business part of the DZ is not a place for dogs IMO. Period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #58 January 20, 2009 We have several dogs at my DZ and don't have issues. Can't say the same about some of the obnoxious jumpers that think it is thier God given right to spew obscenities all day long like it's the queens english and then complain about noisy children. Personally, I question the character of anyone that doesn't like dogs or children. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #59 January 20, 2009 QuoteWe have several dogs at my DZ and don't have issues. that is great. Not all DZ`s are so lucky. QuoteCan't say the same about some of the obnoxious jumpers that think it is thier God given right to spew obscenities all day long like it's the queens english and then complain about noisy children. Depends on the DZ. Most consider the DZ an Adult playground. I have a child (OK.. Maybe she isn’t a child anymore to anyone other than me) but I very rarely bring her around the DZ because of exactly the type of behavior you are referring to. I also don’t take her to Bars, Biker Rallies or any other place that decidedly "Adult" in nature. I don’t expect others to change their behavior to accommodate MY child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 858 #60 January 20, 2009 +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #61 January 20, 2009 QuoteWho the fuck are you to make rules for the rest of the world? Hey. Do you know who I am? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #62 January 20, 2009 QuoteDepends on the DZ. Most consider the DZ an Adult playground. Quote If that were true, then I think more adults would hang out there, I don’t expect others to change their behavior to accommodate MY child. I don't expect them to change thier lifestyle for my child either, but watching your language around children is not an unreasonable request. If a person can't put a sentence together without the word "fuck" in it, then they probably shouldn't leave the house. Alot of adults (including customers)don't appreciate that kind of language/attitude either. Should we ask them to stay home so that a few can revel in thier "adult playground"? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #63 January 20, 2009 Quotebut watching your language around children is not an unreasonable request I am not disagreeing with you. The first time I brought my 12 year old daughter to the DZ and some guy was standing right beside us talking about FUCK this and Fuck That, I was furious, Asked them a couple times to watch their language. When that didn’t work, we moved away and the next group walks up talking about various sex acts and how fucked up they planned on getting that night. It didn’t take long for me to realize that this was not a place I wanted my child. It may not be "unreasonable" to expect others to watch their language around children at a DZ but it may be unrealistic. Unless the DZO made it a point to say he wanted a family friendly environment. In that case whoever is spewing filth should be kicked off the DZ. It is all about what each DZ decides is acceptable behavior. I am sure there are DZ`s out there where I would be perfectly comfortable bringing a child. Most DZ`s I have been are absolutely NOT a place I would being my child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #64 January 20, 2009 You could bring her to Palatka. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #65 January 20, 2009 Quote You could bring her to Palatka. Fuck that!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lowpull 0 #66 January 20, 2009 And what is wrong with Palatka? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #67 January 20, 2009 QuoteAnd what is wrong with Palatka ***I'm gonna guess "too many grown ups". John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #68 January 20, 2009 QuoteAnd what is wrong with Palatka? Uh, guys? that Zoooom! you just heard over your head wasn't the jump plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites doug925 0 #69 January 20, 2009 I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #70 January 20, 2009 QuoteUh, guys? that Zoooom! you just heard over your head wasn't the jump plane. *** Ohhh, this is Andy908! I thought it was Andy902, he slept with my sister, then didn't call her. I can usually recognize sarcasm as it is my second language. I'll try harder. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolas 5 #71 January 21, 2009 This pretty much sums it up for both pets and kids. http://www.skydiveorange.com/kids.htm http://www.skydiveorange.com/faq.htm#pets I will admit when I started skydiving I had a dog and did take her to DZ's. When she had to be put to sleep, my DZ life was one of my many reasons not to get another dog.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #72 January 21, 2009 A DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #73 January 21, 2009 QuoteA DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. That really depends. I have seen kids that i would rather hang out with rather than some skydivers and I have seen kids that make me want to smack them and their parents because they are such disrespectful shits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 858 #74 January 21, 2009 +1 It's not sad. There should be places ADULTS can go and be as ADULT as they care to be. I don't bring my kids to biker bars, rallies, parties.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #75 January 21, 2009 QuoteSeems to me, you've 'covered the bases' with your dog. That's a good thing and I can appreciate it. I feel, what it is with me is, those people who have this attitude that their nipping, snapping, yapping doggy is just the cutest thing ever and allow the dog to do whatever it wants. Like the person you mentioned, should be run-off! In all, I like dogs and I like dogs that behave because their owners take the 'time' with their dog. I guess, what it is with me is, I've seen too many dogs at the DZ that just shouldn't be there. You have taken the 'time' with your dog and follow a plan so that your time at the DZ is fun and a good experience. I commend you for that. There should be more like you. Chuck Wanna see some cool stuff? Check out the "tucker" clips I made them to show my neice and nephew his commands. I may be dropping him off to their house for a month in march.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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BillyVance 34 #56 January 20, 2009 Quote Quote This is not directed at you personally as I have never met you or seen your dogs... BUT.. EVERY single dog owner that has ever brought a dog (and/or Child) to the DZ claims "They are well mannered and properly trained". The reality is that MOST are not even close. Whenever one of these threads get started I roll my eyes because I know we will read how EVERYONE cleans up after their dog, keeps their in or near the camper, out of the hangar. If only that was reality. Don't we know it. Every time that I can remember coming out to that DZ, there have always been at least 2 or 3 dogs that run around in the hangar. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #57 January 20, 2009 Tracking dog shit into the packing tent is always nice too. The business part of the DZ is not a place for dogs IMO. Period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #58 January 20, 2009 We have several dogs at my DZ and don't have issues. Can't say the same about some of the obnoxious jumpers that think it is thier God given right to spew obscenities all day long like it's the queens english and then complain about noisy children. Personally, I question the character of anyone that doesn't like dogs or children. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #59 January 20, 2009 QuoteWe have several dogs at my DZ and don't have issues. that is great. Not all DZ`s are so lucky. QuoteCan't say the same about some of the obnoxious jumpers that think it is thier God given right to spew obscenities all day long like it's the queens english and then complain about noisy children. Depends on the DZ. Most consider the DZ an Adult playground. I have a child (OK.. Maybe she isn’t a child anymore to anyone other than me) but I very rarely bring her around the DZ because of exactly the type of behavior you are referring to. I also don’t take her to Bars, Biker Rallies or any other place that decidedly "Adult" in nature. I don’t expect others to change their behavior to accommodate MY child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #61 January 20, 2009 QuoteWho the fuck are you to make rules for the rest of the world? Hey. Do you know who I am? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #62 January 20, 2009 QuoteDepends on the DZ. Most consider the DZ an Adult playground. Quote If that were true, then I think more adults would hang out there, I don’t expect others to change their behavior to accommodate MY child. I don't expect them to change thier lifestyle for my child either, but watching your language around children is not an unreasonable request. If a person can't put a sentence together without the word "fuck" in it, then they probably shouldn't leave the house. Alot of adults (including customers)don't appreciate that kind of language/attitude either. Should we ask them to stay home so that a few can revel in thier "adult playground"? John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #63 January 20, 2009 Quotebut watching your language around children is not an unreasonable request I am not disagreeing with you. The first time I brought my 12 year old daughter to the DZ and some guy was standing right beside us talking about FUCK this and Fuck That, I was furious, Asked them a couple times to watch their language. When that didn’t work, we moved away and the next group walks up talking about various sex acts and how fucked up they planned on getting that night. It didn’t take long for me to realize that this was not a place I wanted my child. It may not be "unreasonable" to expect others to watch their language around children at a DZ but it may be unrealistic. Unless the DZO made it a point to say he wanted a family friendly environment. In that case whoever is spewing filth should be kicked off the DZ. It is all about what each DZ decides is acceptable behavior. I am sure there are DZ`s out there where I would be perfectly comfortable bringing a child. Most DZ`s I have been are absolutely NOT a place I would being my child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #64 January 20, 2009 You could bring her to Palatka. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #65 January 20, 2009 Quote You could bring her to Palatka. Fuck that!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpull 0 #66 January 20, 2009 And what is wrong with Palatka? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #67 January 20, 2009 QuoteAnd what is wrong with Palatka ***I'm gonna guess "too many grown ups". John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #68 January 20, 2009 QuoteAnd what is wrong with Palatka? Uh, guys? that Zoooom! you just heard over your head wasn't the jump plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites doug925 0 #69 January 20, 2009 I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #70 January 20, 2009 QuoteUh, guys? that Zoooom! you just heard over your head wasn't the jump plane. *** Ohhh, this is Andy908! I thought it was Andy902, he slept with my sister, then didn't call her. I can usually recognize sarcasm as it is my second language. I'll try harder. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolas 5 #71 January 21, 2009 This pretty much sums it up for both pets and kids. http://www.skydiveorange.com/kids.htm http://www.skydiveorange.com/faq.htm#pets I will admit when I started skydiving I had a dog and did take her to DZ's. When she had to be put to sleep, my DZ life was one of my many reasons not to get another dog.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #72 January 21, 2009 A DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #73 January 21, 2009 QuoteA DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. That really depends. I have seen kids that i would rather hang out with rather than some skydivers and I have seen kids that make me want to smack them and their parents because they are such disrespectful shits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 858 #74 January 21, 2009 +1 It's not sad. There should be places ADULTS can go and be as ADULT as they care to be. I don't bring my kids to biker bars, rallies, parties.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #75 January 21, 2009 QuoteSeems to me, you've 'covered the bases' with your dog. That's a good thing and I can appreciate it. I feel, what it is with me is, those people who have this attitude that their nipping, snapping, yapping doggy is just the cutest thing ever and allow the dog to do whatever it wants. Like the person you mentioned, should be run-off! In all, I like dogs and I like dogs that behave because their owners take the 'time' with their dog. I guess, what it is with me is, I've seen too many dogs at the DZ that just shouldn't be there. You have taken the 'time' with your dog and follow a plan so that your time at the DZ is fun and a good experience. I commend you for that. There should be more like you. Chuck Wanna see some cool stuff? Check out the "tucker" clips I made them to show my neice and nephew his commands. I may be dropping him off to their house for a month in march.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Andy9o8 2 #68 January 20, 2009 QuoteAnd what is wrong with Palatka? Uh, guys? that Zoooom! you just heard over your head wasn't the jump plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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wrightskyguy 1 #70 January 20, 2009 QuoteUh, guys? that Zoooom! you just heard over your head wasn't the jump plane. *** Ohhh, this is Andy908! I thought it was Andy902, he slept with my sister, then didn't call her. I can usually recognize sarcasm as it is my second language. I'll try harder. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolas 5 #71 January 21, 2009 This pretty much sums it up for both pets and kids. http://www.skydiveorange.com/kids.htm http://www.skydiveorange.com/faq.htm#pets I will admit when I started skydiving I had a dog and did take her to DZ's. When she had to be put to sleep, my DZ life was one of my many reasons not to get another dog.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #72 January 21, 2009 A DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #73 January 21, 2009 QuoteA DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. That really depends. I have seen kids that i would rather hang out with rather than some skydivers and I have seen kids that make me want to smack them and their parents because they are such disrespectful shits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 858 #74 January 21, 2009 +1 It's not sad. There should be places ADULTS can go and be as ADULT as they care to be. I don't bring my kids to biker bars, rallies, parties.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #75 January 21, 2009 QuoteSeems to me, you've 'covered the bases' with your dog. That's a good thing and I can appreciate it. I feel, what it is with me is, those people who have this attitude that their nipping, snapping, yapping doggy is just the cutest thing ever and allow the dog to do whatever it wants. Like the person you mentioned, should be run-off! In all, I like dogs and I like dogs that behave because their owners take the 'time' with their dog. I guess, what it is with me is, I've seen too many dogs at the DZ that just shouldn't be there. You have taken the 'time' with your dog and follow a plan so that your time at the DZ is fun and a good experience. I commend you for that. There should be more like you. Chuck Wanna see some cool stuff? Check out the "tucker" clips I made them to show my neice and nephew his commands. I may be dropping him off to their house for a month in march.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Bolas 5 #71 January 21, 2009 This pretty much sums it up for both pets and kids. http://www.skydiveorange.com/kids.htm http://www.skydiveorange.com/faq.htm#pets I will admit when I started skydiving I had a dog and did take her to DZ's. When she had to be put to sleep, my DZ life was one of my many reasons not to get another dog.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #72 January 21, 2009 A DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #73 January 21, 2009 QuoteA DZO has every right not to allow children on his DZ. It's sad though. That really depends. I have seen kids that i would rather hang out with rather than some skydivers and I have seen kids that make me want to smack them and their parents because they are such disrespectful shits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #74 January 21, 2009 +1 It's not sad. There should be places ADULTS can go and be as ADULT as they care to be. I don't bring my kids to biker bars, rallies, parties.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #75 January 21, 2009 QuoteSeems to me, you've 'covered the bases' with your dog. That's a good thing and I can appreciate it. I feel, what it is with me is, those people who have this attitude that their nipping, snapping, yapping doggy is just the cutest thing ever and allow the dog to do whatever it wants. Like the person you mentioned, should be run-off! In all, I like dogs and I like dogs that behave because their owners take the 'time' with their dog. I guess, what it is with me is, I've seen too many dogs at the DZ that just shouldn't be there. You have taken the 'time' with your dog and follow a plan so that your time at the DZ is fun and a good experience. I commend you for that. There should be more like you. Chuck Wanna see some cool stuff? Check out the "tucker" clips I made them to show my neice and nephew his commands. I may be dropping him off to their house for a month in march.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
