Megatron 0 #1 February 10, 2009 Statistically speaking, are women more likely to be involved in a skydiving incident than are men? The reason I ask is that while women make up a rather small percentage of all skydivers, the percentage of incidents involving a female jumper is seemingly higher. From a purely mathematical perspective, if women make up, lets say, 10% of all skydivers, than shouldn't 10% of all skydiving accidents involve a female jumper..all things being equal? Perhaps this really is the case and I'm just perceiving a bias but I'm aware of quite a few incidents the the injured party was female, apparently enough to get me to post this.. so whats the deal?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 February 10, 2009 Dude, you're never going to get laid at a boogie like this!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megatron 0 #3 February 10, 2009 haha I knew the risks before I posted...its ok man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #4 February 10, 2009 stick around a bit more, then in a few years, ask this question.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 February 10, 2009 Overall, I think the men take more risks than women do.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #6 February 10, 2009 There is a very simple reason for this. It all Boils down to Depth Percption. We tell women how many feet off the ground they should be they when they start thier flare... and then we also try to convince them that This is 8 inches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #7 February 10, 2009 Are you counting tandem passenger incidents? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerRoo 0 #8 February 10, 2009 Quote There is a very simple reason for this. It all Boils down to Depth Percption. We tell women how many feet off the ground they should be they when they start thier flare... and then we also try to convince them that This is 8 inches. (I.C.D#2 VP) ""I'm good with my purple penis straw" ~sky mama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #9 February 10, 2009 Quote<-------------------------------------------> is 8 inches. Wha?? Ya mean that aint 8 inches? ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #10 February 10, 2009 It is Sunny. Just ignore this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #11 February 10, 2009 I remember ... back in the rec.skydiving days, iirc ... a certain fairly famous S&TA (in the skydiving world) from a certain dz in Arizona commenting that he had never called life flight for a female skydiver. One anecdotal observation. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #12 February 10, 2009 QuoteQuote<-------------------------------------------> is 8 inches. Wha?? Ya mean that aint 8 inches? That's easily 10 inches.... right ladies?!Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #13 February 10, 2009 Condom sizes from smallest to largest: Snug Regular Large Magnum Jello J ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpsteve 0 #14 February 10, 2009 I remember the the annual fatality summary in Parachutist last year noted that there were 0 female fatalities for the year. In the last 5 years of published data on uspa (2003 to 2007) there have been 112 fatalities. Statistically there should be about 17 female fatalities as just about 15% of the USPA membership every year is women. I don't know the exact count but I don't think the number of women in this time period who have died is over 17. I also think women are much less likely to get injured in a high speed or swoop landing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #15 February 10, 2009 Well, if we transfer the empirical data from car driving ability over to canopy piloting ability..... /is glad he doesn't try to get laid at boogies anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #16 February 10, 2009 QuoteCondom sizes from smallest to largest: Snug Regular Large Magnum Jello J Sunny you forgot... OMFG YES,DON'T STOP.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 February 10, 2009 QuoteI remember the the annual fatality summary in Parachutist last year noted that there were 0 female fatalities for the year. In the last 5 years of published data on uspa (2003 to 2007) there have been 112 fatalities. Statistically there should be about 17 female fatalities as just about 15% of the USPA membership every year is women. I don't know the exact count but I don't think the number of women in this time period who have died is over 17. It's not just the ratio of women, but also the number of jumps those women make. If an average male makes 150 jumps per year, and the average female makes 100 jumps per year, then the male is going to be more likely to get hurt - simply because of more exposure time. So you can't just go by head count. You have to know the number of jumps too. QuoteI also think women are much less likely to get injured in a high speed or swoop landing.... There don't seem to be as many doing them. It's my observation that women jumpers are generally more conservative then men. So again, it's not just the head count, or even the number of jumps, alone, that would determine the statistics. It's also how conservative the jumpers are. Now we've got at least three factors at play: 1) Ratio 2) Number of jumps 3) Conservatism under canopy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpsteve 0 #18 February 10, 2009 QuoteThere don't seem to be as many doing them. It's my observation that women jumpers are generally more conservative then men. yep...exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #19 February 10, 2009 Quote Quote There don't seem to be as many doing them. It's my observation that women jumpers are generally more conservative then men. yep...exactly. The widespread use of AAD's in our sport has been a blessing. It has also changed the main cause of death in our sport from pulling the reserve handle too low to pulling a steering toggle too low. 25 years ago, women were maybe 8-10% of the jumpers, but they were about 25% of the fatalities. Students, male and female, were consistently half of the fatalities. "Time in Sport:1 day, Cause of Death: Impact" was a constant preamble to many a fatality report. Most fatalities were no/too low pull on reserve after a malfunction on the main. I may get really beat up on my next statement, but IMHO men tend to do too much too fast, women sometimes tended to do too little too late. That's just my take after reading 30+ years of fatality reports, and having to author one myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffwxyz 0 #20 February 10, 2009 I think the real reason is that parachutes do not have sun visors with vanity mirrors, so women are not trying to put on their make up while under canopy. Therefore, less accidents than what else could be. I am going to take cover now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #21 February 10, 2009 Dude...I know you didn't just go there! Skymama.....get him! Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #22 February 10, 2009 QuoteI remember the the annual fatality summary in Parachutist last year noted that there were 0 female fatalities for the year. In the last 5 years of published data on uspa (2003 to 2007) there have been 112 fatalities. Statistically there should be about 17 female fatalities as just about 15% of the USPA membership every year is women. I don't know the exact count but I don't think the number of women in this time period who have died is over 17. I also think women are much less likely to get injured in a high speed or swoop landing.... Yeah I don't think there were 17 female skydiver fatalities either, but I do remember a few of them, and one happened during a swoop competition at The Ranch in NY I believe. There was a suicide in Lousiana where the girl deployed then climbed out of her harness. Another one was at Perris when she apparently turned her cypres on at home near sea level then jumped at the higher elevation DZ."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
