futuredivot 0 #1 February 11, 2009 OK, my wife has a snapshot that she took and wants to post on her facebook page-it's of a shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot (a pet peeve of hers). Can she post that without permission of the store who's logo is on the cart?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGimp 0 #2 February 11, 2009 yes...it falls under freedom of speech, shes basically saying that the grocery store has a hazordous parking lot..(thats my guess at least)...as long as shes not using the photo for profit or other publicity, its in the clear"Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #3 February 11, 2009 Actually she's saying that people should return the carts to the cart corral instead of just leaving them loose.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdthomas 0 #4 February 11, 2009 but once posted to facebook, photobucket or like pages the photo can be used by the owners of those sites, read the agreement when you sign up for those type of sites. currently virgin mobile is using a photo in an advert that they got from google who owns a photo hosting site, google took the photo from a young mans site without asking him simply because he agreed to this when he signed up, but the girl in the photo had no idea he took the pic and she did not give virgin mobile permission to use her as a model. copyrights are complexd. Joewww.greenboxphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #5 February 11, 2009 Quote Actually she's saying that people should return the carts to the cart corral instead of just leaving them loose. She's missing the point of it all. Those carts are left there on purpose. Think of all those homless souls in S. Carolina needing a portable grill. Who knows? One may show up at Fitzgerald. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #6 February 11, 2009 Hmmmmm.... Facebook.... Actually according to the agreement you are forced to accept when creating an account on Facebook you automatically assign all rights for the photos you decide to upload to Facebook... This means when she have uploaded it she can't use it anymore since Facebook now owns the right to that photo..... I know, it SUCKS!!!!! I never ever upload photos to sites like Facebook any more b/c of this.“The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #7 February 11, 2009 I don't think that will be an issue. She just wanted to make sure that Sam's Club wasn't going to get pissed at her.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #8 February 11, 2009 Just to be able to use yet another word I have absolotely no clue how to spell, why not simply make the logo illegible?"That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #9 February 11, 2009 That would require A)Her to wait for me to get home to edit the picture which is B) something I have no interest in doing You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #10 February 11, 2009 Quote Actually according to the agreement you are forced to accept when creating an account on Facebook you automatically assign all rights for the photos you decide to upload to Facebook... This means when she have uploaded it she can't use it anymore since Facebook now owns the right to that photo. That doesn't appear to be entirely accurate. yes you do appear to grant the rights of the photo while it is uploaded... it appears as though the rights to distribute dissolve once you remove the photo. By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing. You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the license granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. and ultimately it looks as though they can only use posted content to actually promote facebook... it still isn't great... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #11 February 11, 2009 I would venture it covers assloads more than promotional purposes. This is very broad: Quote any purpose on or in connection with the Site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #12 February 11, 2009 "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 February 11, 2009 QuoteOK, my wife has a snapshot that she took and wants to post on her facebook page-it's of a shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot (a pet peeve of hers). Can she post that without permission of the store who's logo is on the cart? Yes, as long as it's not for a commercial purpose and/or implying that the store is endorsing anything. Oh, and the correct reason is because the store puts the cart and the logo on it in the public domain by putting it out in the parking lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #14 February 11, 2009 QuoteI would venture it covers assloads more than promotional purposes. This is very broad: Quote any purpose on or in connection with the SiteI agree that it is relatively open... but it does specifically say it must be either on the site or in connection to the site. Which means they can't just sell a picture to a news program or offer it up for free without recieving permission from the author. Of course I suppose if the sight that it is distributed on signs it to "Facebook" then that might be considered enough to fall within a connection to the Site... but I'm not sure it's really valid... I'm not sure they should be held liable but the business that takes the photo should be held responsible... as for example "I found it through Google images" isn't really a valid arguement that it was freely available for anyone to use... Mind you I'm not overly conserned as I don't put many of my photos up on facebook just a few here and there...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 February 11, 2009 The same thing applies to photos you upload almost ANYwhere, folks - including here on dizzy-dot. Read your TOS.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #16 February 11, 2009 QuoteThe same thing applies to photos you upload almost ANYwhere, folks - including here on dizzy-dot. Read your TOS.actually I was rather impressed by the PTB's here at dz.com when it came up here a few months ago after a photo credit of "Dropzone.com" was seen at the bottom of a picture. and I'm actually rather impressed by the legal statements in the POTN forum... basically they retain right to display images on the forums but the owner of the photograph still retains all copyright of the image.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armour666 0 #17 February 11, 2009 Photos taken from a puplic place are no issues for you to post you do not need peoples permission to post photos or logos for non comercial use. This one is a good resource for the Laws for photophagers in Canada http://ambientlight.ca/laws.php For the U.S. of A. http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdfhttp://www.krages.com/phoright.htmSO this one time at band camp..... "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #18 February 11, 2009 Quote Quote Just to be able to use yet another word I have absolotely no clue how to spell, why not simply make the logo illegible? That would require A)Her to wait for me to get home to edit the picture which is B) something I have no interest in doing Send it to me and I'll do it, and send it right back. Or use an existing google image that doesn't have a logo: http://images.google.com/images?q=shopping%20cart%20in%20a%20parking%20lot&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #19 February 11, 2009 I suppose it is on the home PC, I'm in the office and she's warping molding young minds but I appreciate the offer. It doesn't look like it'll be an issue to use it as-isYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #20 February 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteThe same thing applies to photos you upload almost ANYwhere, folks - including here on dizzy-dot. Read your TOS.actually I was rather impressed by the PTB's here at dz.com when it came up here a few months ago after a photo credit of "Dropzone.com" was seen at the bottom of a picture. and I'm actually rather impressed by the legal statements in the POTN forum... basically they retain right to display images on the forums but the owner of the photograph still retains all copyright of the image. Agreed, on both countsMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #21 February 11, 2009 I did see that they claimed the right to basically as they please with said items though. Not that I would expect my personal pics to have issues...once they've actually received approval anyway, I'm sure a little world famous gold medalist swimmer had read the fine print! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #22 February 11, 2009 QuoteHmmmmm.... Facebook.... Actually according to the agreement you are forced to accept when creating an account on Facebook you automatically assign all rights for the photos you decide to upload to Facebook... This means when she have uploaded it she can't use it anymore since Facebook now owns the right to that photo..... I know, it SUCKS!!!!! I never ever upload photos to sites like Facebook any more b/c of this. Actually the facebook agreement specifies non-exclusive rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
