Ebay rig on sale...need advice

[masterblaster72 0]

Is this a good deal? I've asked the seller what model the main is and I don't get a response. He only says it's a 190 in the ad. I have 83 jumps and if this is a sabre it would be ideal for me, but if it's a high performance 190 then I'd be screwed buying it.

Anyhow it has a cypres and pd 160 reserve.... it's at $1800 now. Good deal?

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[spanky39154 0]

always be careful on ebay!!! sure someone with more experiance will answer this better!! but i PERSONALLY wouldn't like such a difference in size from main to reserve. last thing i want is to have to deal with a different faster canopy (remember reserve are f111) when i could be low and busing with adrenaline not necessarily near a good spot to land!!

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[wmw999 2,587]

Looking at it (I don't know the rig or person -- and you should get a good, accurate description), my guess is that the main would be a PD 190. Which would still make it bigger than a 160 reserve. It's a good deal, but that bigger-main-than-reserve thing just isn't that good an idea unless you think that making a jump on the smallest canopy you've ever seen is best when it's also a cutaway.

If you're looking for a 190 zero-porosity main, you should have a reserve that's about the same size. F111-type fabric is fine for a reserve of the same size, because it's 0-3 CFM, very close to zero. You're probably not going to jump the reserve enough for it to to get porous.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[skydiverton 0]

Age of the components
(In each case main, rig and cypres)

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Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habit,
Especially when you are jumping a sport rig

[bwilling 0]

How could anybody buy that rig from that description in the ad, and have any idea if it would fit? There's not a mention one of what size the harness is, or what size person it was sized for!

Don't just focus on the size of the canopies when you're looking at harness and containers, there's two sizes you have to be concerned with... harness size, and container size! The harness size determines what size body the harness will fit, and the container size determines what size canopies the rig will hold, and both have to be correct for your body size and experience level for that rig to 'fit'.

There's also no mention of the DOM of any of the gear, which is instrumental in determining the value of the gear... it's not just ebay though, I see similar ads in the classified section of dropzone.com all the time! What the hell are people thinkin' when they post these ads?

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[rasmack 0]

As always: Have it checked by a rigger before money changes hands.

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[skybytch 273]

$1800 is a good price for a Wings with 20 jumps, PD reserve with no jumps and a Cypres. But if the reserve is too small for you to safely land in a worst case scenario, it's not a good deal for you.

[hobbes4star 0]

Here’s my question. If this person is a skydiver and he knows that he is selling to other skydivers, why is he so vague? He does not list anything that we as skydivers would ask. How tall he is and his weight for rig fitting. What type of canopy, and reserve? You would think that he would put more of a description for what he is selling.

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[wmw999 2,587]

If he bought it right off student status, from someone at his DZ, he wouldn't necessarily know.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[hobbes4star 0]

I knew my first rig inside and out. With a lot of questions and advice from my instructors. Sorry but if I was about to drop 2000 dollars on something that is going to be saving my life every time I use it. I would know what type of canopy and reserve I was jumping along with how it fit me.
Just my .02

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[wmw999 2,587]

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I knew my first rig inside and out

I'll bet you packed for yourself, too.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[hobbes4star 0]

not the reserve but the main, yes i diddidn't you ask about your first rig or did you buy it blind? as you know there is a big differance between a 190 f111 and a 190 stilleto. seems to me if i was selling the rig on ebay i would put this info.

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[GravityGirl 0]

It's gone. Is the bidding over?

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[wmw999 2,587]

I bought my first rig in the days when choices were far more limited. There weren't any harness sizes, and each main had its own size. So no comparison.

There are many people out there who care most about how well a car drives, and don't care that much about what went into it. Same with parachute gear.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[masterblaster72 0]

Nope, it's still there.

I just got the answer on the model: it's a Falcon 195. I did some research and it looks like PD doesn't make the Falcon anymore, which makes me think the canopy is a bit old.

I left the next string of questions with the seller -- DOM, size of container, and whether he'd be able to meet with a rigger before $ changes hands.

Thanks...

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[hobbes4star 0]

I have to disagree. Do you know anyone who owns there own gear and does not know what type of main they are flying??

[dragon2 2]

It's not a PD canopy. It IS a bit old though. A couple of our starter jumpers have them as cheap first mains. see here for some reviews and stuff
http://www.dropzone.com/gear/Detailed/28.html

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[rwieder 0]

I do a lot of business on E-Bay. I would not do business with this seller. He/She has no feedback, no id verification and has just registered. If you look at all of the bidders histories, there isn't but one or two that have any feedback or any transactions period. If you get burned, your burned, that simple. But what ever you do, good luck!

-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

[kelpdiver 2]

1.5 hours to go, price at $2025.

Clean looking articulated wings, claimed very new PD reserve already get pretty close to that price. New battery weakly suggests the cypres has at least 2 years.

I flew the Falcon 265 a lot as a student, and the 215 a little bit when I was still renting. No complaints here. If the wingloading is appropriate for you, you could fly it until your budget allows for a ZP canopy purchase. Precision makes it, btw. Their chart says 199lbs max exit weight for the 195.

[kelpdiver 2]

a young guy who had to sell his rig for cash might not have any ebay history. Or he could be selling a hot rig. Definitely a good spot for a rigger as a go between.

[hookitt 1]

Simple solution. Get a phone number... call him and talk to him. If you would like, Send me the phone number and I'll ask the questions for you.

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[ngawang01 0]

I'm looking to buy my fiirst rig. A dolphin with cypress, 195 falcon (F111). Seller says it has about 20 jumps. Is 1500 a good price for it?

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[wmw999 2,587]

What kind and size and age of reserve, how old is the Cypres? That could be a decent (not world-beating, but not bad) deal, if the answers to those questions are acceptable, and IF THE HARNESS FITS YOU.

Acceptable answers would be a reasonably modern reserve with no more than 1 jump, and a Cypres with at least 4 years on it.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[hookitt 1]

That's even more vague than the Ebay add

Dolphin... I'd pay 10 bucks.
CYPRES <==only 1 S in CYPRES... depends on age/battery/service
Falcon .... How many jumps?

Personally, I'd do my best to avoid a Dolphin. (Queue the dolphin sucks/is great arguement). The design is ok for RW but I cetainly wouldn't freefly in it even with the latest and greates updates.

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[hookitt 1]

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It's gone. Is the bidding over?

Bidding is over, the winning bid was $2445

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