skydiverbry 0 #1 April 15, 2009 Ok,so Ireally don't know all that much about the Internet.Enough to get me by and keep me safe Can anyone tell me why the majority of spam comes from gmail addresses?I never get any garbage from an address yahoo.com,but all of them seem to come from live.com or gmail.com Just wondering out loud-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #2 April 15, 2009 Maybe it's because gmail has such great Spam Filters... I get a lot of spam... but I seldom see it because gmail filters it to their spam filter...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #3 April 15, 2009 Ok,now not to sound like an idiot.I just like to know.Could you possible explain that to me a little better.Not sure I'm getting the concept-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #4 April 15, 2009 QuoteOk,now not to sound like an idiot.I just like to know.Could you possible explain that to me a little better.Not sure I'm getting the conceptI recieve a lot of spam daily through my Gmail account... but gmail's spam filters recognize it as spam and filter it into a "Spam" folder that it on the gmail server... I usually don't see this and it happens without my interaction... on the off chance that spam does pass through to get to me I can mark it as such and hopefully help with the gmail spam filters... so that I don't see it again...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #5 April 15, 2009 All right.I got that.Now if I check my spam folder,I never have anything in there that ends in yahoo.com,but I will have tons of shit from say blahbla@.live.com or blahblah@gmail.com That is I guess my question is why do spammers use those emailer over say yahoo. Does this make sense what I'm trying to say Thank for you patience and info-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 April 15, 2009 The return address of an email message doesn't mean squat. You can forge it to be anything you like."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #7 April 15, 2009 I see.Ok you got my mind going.How would you do that.When I sent an email and just click send,is not my address automatically attached?-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #8 April 15, 2009 Quote The return address of an email message doesn't mean squat. You can forge it to be anything you like. yup... that's what I was thinking... you said it better then I could though... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #9 April 15, 2009 QuoteI see.Ok you got my mind going.How would you do that.When I sent an email and just click send,is not my address automatically attached? For you, yes. For a computer savy hacker, not necessarily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #10 April 15, 2009 Well that I would have guessed.I just have this "I gotta know how it's done" thing going on in my little head.So, no easy answers unless I get a good knowledge base of computers ant the net eh? -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 April 15, 2009 Generating an example message: $ telnet ex 25 Trying 192.168.0.28... Connected to excalibur.ryoder.invalid. Escape character is '^]'. 220 excalibur.ryoder.invalid ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:41:46 -0600 (MDT) helo fj.ryoder.invalid 250 excalibur.ryoder.invalid Hello flapjack [192.168.0.105], pleased to meet you mail from: 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok rcpt to: 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok data 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself Hello, there. Have you been a good little boy this year? . 250 2.0.0 n3FHfklm004545 Message accepted for delivery quit 221 2.0.0 excalibur.ryoder.invalid closing connection Connection to excalibur.ryoder.invalid closed by foreign host. $ Using a command line mail client to look at the email: $ mailx -f mail mailx version 5.0 Type ? for help. "mail": 1 message >O 1 santa.claus@north. Wed Apr 15 11:43 12/518 ? p Message 1: From santa.claus@north.pole Wed Apr 15 11:43:20 2009 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:41:46 -0600 (MDT) From: santa.claus@north.pole Hello, there. Have you been a good little boy this year? ? The full message with headers:$ cat mail From santa.claus@north.pole Wed Apr 15 11:43:20 2009 Return-Path: Received: from fj.ryoder.invalid (flapjack [192.168.0.105]) by excalibur.ryoder.invalid (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with SMTP id n3FHfklm004545 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:41:46 -0600 (MDT) From: santa.claus@north.pole Message-Id: <200904151742.n3FHfklm004545@excalibur.ryoder.invalid> Content-Length: 58 Hello, there. Have you been a good little boy this year? $ "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #12 April 15, 2009 Great! Now if I only knew what all the other shit was I would have a complete understanding. In a way I'm starting to get the jest of it. But I think I'll just stay with emergency medicine Thanks,ryoder-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 April 15, 2009 QuoteGreat! Now if I only knew what all the other shit was I would have a complete understanding. In a way I'm starting to get the jest of it. But I think I'll just stay with emergency medicine Thanks,ryoder What you see in the first section is SMTP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTP It is a protocol intended for Mail Transfer Agents to talk to each other, but since it is all ASCII, a human can talk to an MTA with the telnet program, (provided the human understands SMTP)."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #14 April 15, 2009 I take it you are more then just a skydiver and rigger then -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy0689 0 #15 April 15, 2009 Someone hacked into my msn account and actually placed a message in my auto reply. Every time I got an email, it would generage a spam message back to the sender from my email account. Took me a while to figure out what was going on but I thought that was pretty slick although not a good way to flood the masses with spam. Damn hackers. If you start getting messages back that a strange email that you sent was undeliverable, your email address has been hijacked. Incoming is just an inconvenience and bothersome- just delete it. If it has a good link, make sure you post it here!Andy I'll believe it when I see it on YouTube! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #16 April 15, 2009 Gottcha -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzdiva 7 #17 April 15, 2009 Shouldn't you be painting? "It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #18 April 16, 2009 Finished when I posted-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
