piahenzi 0 #1 May 21, 2009 hey Guys and Gals, Not here to slander or personally attack this guy but I need some help from this community if at all possible. I'm one of those skydivers that thinks when selling a canopy, the buyer should have the chance to jump and inspect the canopy and make a decision...looks like I might have gotten totally taken...after 5-6 weeks, buyer states he cannot afford it and so I say send it back... going on 3 weeks, I still don't have my canopy back nor is he answering my emails... so net net.. anyone who knows this guy, pls have him respond to me...anyone who might be in contact with the buyer to sell him something, be careful. Hopefull this is all a misunderstanding and/or this guy is just a flake but I am worried... and more so, disappointed that this small community has members that take advantage of the generosity of another. Bad mojo.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #2 May 21, 2009 Florida where? What city did you ship the canopy too? Did the guy happen to mention a home DZ? Maybe call there, or to DZs near is home town. Just as an aside, I'm all for shipping a canopy for an inspection and test jump (with the understanding that any damage or loss is the responsibility of the jumper), but I would not ship a canopy directly to a jumpers private residence. I've had good luck shipping to a DZ after speaking to the DZO or staff rigger about the situation. I would never expect them to take responsibility for the gear, but if the buyer is a jumper in good standing at that DZ, and you involve the DZO/managment/staff, it becomes alot harder for a guy to pull any shenanigans (or even just flake out). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piahenzi 0 #3 May 21, 2009 Thanks for the reply, I sent the canopy to Cape Coral, FL and I did send it to the guy's rigger first. I was hoping to keep them out of it but I guess I'd better give them a call and let them know what's going on...maybe they can assist further. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piahenzi 0 #4 May 26, 2009 ok, it's now been another week, another few emails and nothing... the DZ is Skydive SW Florida in Cape Coral...Anyone know this guy?? I am now seriously considering that my canopy has indeed been stolen. What now??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 May 26, 2009 Have you called the dz or the rigger or have you just send e-mails? Actually talking to people sometimes gets more action.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piahenzi 0 #6 May 26, 2009 yes, as of this weekend, the DZ has not seen him for weeks and the tel nos they have for him have been disconnected. It's not looking good... that's why I'm casting a wider net here on DZ.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #7 May 26, 2009 Is this the best we can do here? It seems that anytime somebody needs a drinking buddy, or a sleepy jumper to drunk dial, there's ten DZ.commers waiting in line to help out, but we can't locate one person who jumps at Skydive SW Fla, or knows anyone who does? That's bullshit. Come on Fla people, somebody out there knows someone. Even if it's just another jumper at that DZ, who might know the guy, or even just know of the guy. Anything would be a help at this point. Even if it's just a guy that can confirm that the 'buyer' is a dirtbag. At this point, it's been weeks with no response from the 'buyer', and this canopy is starting to look alot like it's been stolen. Let's treat this like any other time one of our fellow jumpers has gear stolen, and see if we can't help out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piahenzi 0 #8 May 26, 2009 ..thank you for your emphatic plea on my behalf. The DZ is also still working on getting in touch with his friends etc. but it really doesn't look promising right now...*sigh* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #9 May 26, 2009 What's really sad is that this thread is right above a thread titled "Skydiving really is a small community" where jumpers go on for pages about how tight this community is. I guess that's everywhere but SW Fla? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #10 May 26, 2009 sorry to hear hun, if you find out, our fellow yankee-friends are the inventors of a great tradition called "tar and feathering".. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piahenzi 0 #11 May 26, 2009 Dave - luckily the skydiving community on FB has been awesome in response this morning and there is a wide net cast thru FL already ...within hours of my post. For a community pulling together, FB skydivers is the support network that really is pulling out the stops for me at the moment.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #12 May 26, 2009 QuoteIt seems that anytime somebody needs a drinking buddy, or a sleepy jumper to drunk dial, there's ten DZ.commers waiting in line to help out, but we can't locate one person who jumps at Skydive SW Fla, or knows anyone who does? All of the FL jumpers I know jump at the dz's in Central or Northeast FL. You gotta remember that FL is a pretty big state. Jumping "down there" where SW FL is located is almost like jumping in a different state. I've never been there and really don't know anyone who has. That said, I'll make this a sticky today so more people can see it.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #13 May 26, 2009 A user search brings up the name zlstone and his posts indicate that he jumps at SW FL. He lists his license # as B 29611. Maybe someone at USPA can help you track him down.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #14 May 26, 2009 Is the canopy you "sold" him the Crossfire 2 he lists as his main on the profile?Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danielcroft 2 #15 May 26, 2009 The crossfire in question is a 99ft, so doesn't look like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #16 May 26, 2009 Quote ..thank you for your emphatic plea on my behalf. The DZ is also still working on getting in touch with his friends etc. but it really doesn't look promising right now...*sigh* If Im not mistaken, that DZ is owned by Ann & Roy, have you talked to them? Best of luck of getting it back, I don't understand the mentality of some people. I would go ahead and file a police report on it for being stolen.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #17 May 26, 2009 http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Zachary&name=Stone&street=&city_zip=&state_id=FL&localtime=survey Dunno if any of them is the guy with address/numbers. Hope you get the little fucker and break his hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piahenzi 0 #18 May 26, 2009 Stop the Presses!!! Zach Stone gets to live!!!..... canopy showed up via UPS at my house a mere 3 minutes ago.. .. it would've been so much easier on me (and you all) if he'd just sent me an email in the last 2 weeks...thank you everyone for all your concern and awesomeness...figures the day I call him out, the thing shows up. Karma!!! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #19 May 26, 2009 I'm very glad it showed up! Looks like giving him the benefit of the doubt paid off, even when all the signs pointed the other direction. Glad it worked out!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 May 26, 2009 With this happy ending I'll be locking this thread but leaving it up in case anyone in the future looks for info on this potential buyer for their gear.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
