ladydyver 0 #26 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote hey leadfoot.....not my fault you got a speeding ticket....I assume it was in anticipation of playing at the ritz with us - but then again, maybe you just like to drive fast Me??? I'd never knowingly do anything against the law. i always knew you were a strong law abiding citizen..all of those young minds to mold and all......(not!!!)DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdive 0 #27 September 30, 2008 Again, People - lets keep away from thread drift and keep to the topicThere is much to be learned here, let's keep focused! "We saved your gear. Now you can sell it when you get out of the hospital and upsize!!" "K-Dub" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #28 September 30, 2008 Quote Again, People - lets keep away from thread drift and keep to the topicThere is much to be learned here, let's keep focused! true...we should keep the thread focused to this particular fire walking event. I am wondering was said S&TA trained appropriately prior to his attempt in firewalking? Did the training meet the national standards for fire walking? Was his coach at the fireside encouraging him?DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vskydiver 0 #29 September 30, 2008 I think I saw someone fire walking the other weekend when we were there too! I was thinking then that people should probably have more extensive training in that area. Especially when there are big crowds of people watching. It's always terrible when people bring their family out to watch Dad fire walk and then . I hate when that happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #30 September 30, 2008 Quote I think I saw someone fire walking the other weekend when we were there too! I was thinking then that people should probably have more extensive training in that area. Especially when there are big crowds of people watching. It's always terrible when people bring their family out to watch Dad fire walk and then . I hate when that happens. yes, I actually have photos' of that said firewalking event. we tried to encourage him not to with that kind of ethanol loading to no avail....he just did what he wanted to anyway. I could smell singed leg hair for days after said event. The sad thing was doc and I were 2/3 of the medical crew at the event .... it could have turned out way worse than what it did. Needless to say, we had to have a drink to overcome that incident at the end of the night.DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #31 September 30, 2008 Quoteyes, I actually have photos' of that said firewalking event. we tried to encourage him not to with that kind of ethanol loading to no avail....he just did what he wanted to anyway. I could smell singed leg hair for days after said event. The sad thing was doc and I were 2/3 of the medical crew at the event .... it could have turned out way worse than what it did. Needless to say, we had to have a drink to overcome that incident at the end of the night. I saw the previous incident, too. I would think that it would have taken more than one drink to overcome the trauma of that event???"safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vskydiver 0 #32 September 30, 2008 I took me a few too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 September 30, 2008 Quotethe next day an eminent skydiving physician, Dr. Pete Hill evaluated the wound Now that is some scary shit right there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #34 September 30, 2008 I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #35 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuotethe next day an eminent skydiving physician, Dr. Pete Hill evaluated the wound Now that is some scary shit right there. I second that. See my reply on page 1.'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #36 September 30, 2008 So I take it an AAD (alcohol assisted descent) was actually the cause of this incident, resulting in a RSL (really sore leg) ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vskydiver 0 #37 September 30, 2008 All of this could have been prevented by a good PLF. (Patrone Laden Flask) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheStepchild 0 #38 September 30, 2008 Quote Last weekend we had an incident at the Ritz (West Plains Skydiving, Ritzville, WA) A well known, local S&TA decided he could fire walk at the bonfire, was having some balance problems (I assume from some vertigo from an inner ear problem but I can't be sure), and during said firewalk, the S&TA fell, suffering a large gash on his shin area of his leg. Tequila was reportedly used to cleanse the wound, bandages applied, and the next day an eminent skydiving physician, Dr. Pete Hill evaluated the wound and said "fuck it, you will live". No students were reportedly involved in this botched landing, this skydiver with close to 2000 jumps apparently botched the approach all by him self, and no blame should be laid on the Kokanee sucking students or experienced jumpers at the scene. Names have not yet been released pending notification of kin and Muttley. Please refrain from personal attacks, and lets all pull together wishing for a full recovery. Stats: Jumps - about 2K Ethanol loading - estimated at 0.18 Experience level at said ethanol loading - extensive with only previous scrapes and bruises Conditions: Clear, new moon, flickering lights Hear is to a full and speedy recovery to the injured party. Doc PS This is what you get for interupting our carnal events to report your dumb ass behavior - not once but 3 times I would first like to thank everyone who has sent their well wishes and the great medical staff who assisted us the night of the incident. Thank you for answering your phone! I was there for the incident and watched the entire jump. I'm not exactly sure of the S&TA's ethanol loading at the time of the incident, but I will say he does have extensive experiance at high to very high ethanol loadings. The fire walk in question was a three-stepper. The jumper missed his third step, narrowly evading the fire, and plunged head first into the dirt striking his shin on a sharp rock. There was no attempt of a PLF. Many other experianced fire walkers where present at the time of the injury encouraging the idiot victim, and expressed their desire for him to try again. The dumbass firewalker expressed his desire for more wine. Tequila was not used to cleanse the wound, but cheap eastern European vodka. The wound is now infected and in my professional opinion, quite disgusting. His loving girlfriend has been by the moron's his side since the incident, helping in any way possible...there has been absolutely no nagging, or 'I told you so's'. Why can't pirates and cowboys co-exist in perfect harmony? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #39 September 30, 2008 You USED TEQUILA TO CLEANSE THE WOUND????? WHY DIDN'T YOU DRINK IT?? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #40 September 30, 2008 Quote You USED TEQUILA TO CLEANSE THE WOUND????? WHY DIDN'T YOU DRINK IT?? Calm down Vinne, it was apparently cheap European VodkaYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #41 September 30, 2008 Quote So I take it an AAD (alcohol assisted descent) was actually the cause of this incident, resulting in a RSL (really sore leg) Quote All of this could have been prevented by a good PLF. (Patrone Laden Flask) How do you guys come up with this stuff??? Awesome! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #42 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote So I take it an AAD (alcohol assisted descent) was actually the cause of this incident, resulting in a RSL (really sore leg) Quote All of this could have been prevented by a good PLF. (Patrone Laden Flask) How do you guys come up with this stuff??? Awesome! We ride around a lot in an An-2 ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #43 September 30, 2008 Alright, there's entirely too much speculation going on here, so let's be clear about a few of the details. This was a highly technical jump. As TheStepchild explained, it was a 3-stepper. In the planning stages, the jumper recognized the hazard associated with making the second step "blind", that is, the landing point for the third step was obscured by flames and would not be visible until after he had launched from his second step. At this point, he probably should have called off the jump, but he threw caution to the wind and hoped for the best, likely due to a moderate ETOH loading and a fundamental belief that pain is fleeting, glory lasts forever, and chicks dig scars. The first and second steps went as planned, but as he emerged from the far side of the inferno, he found that things were exactly as foreseen. His third step was off the mark and down into the coals. He'd generated sufficient momentum to carry him out of the hellhole, but the edge of the pit was lined with jagged basalt, pointy-sides facing in, and one of these grabbed a small chunk of his calf meat as a memento of the glorious occasion, exposing a bit of his shin bone so that it too could view the celebration first-hand. Our hero donned a full-body coat of silt as his victory robe, returned to his portable throne and quaffed a bit more of the fine grape while revelling in the magnitude of his feat, asked his fair damsel for a few more seconds to bask in the glory, then realized his sock was a bit damp and wandered off to find a dry pair. It was merely a flesh wound, not worthy of further mention. Blues, Dave P.S. I only called you twice. Once to ask if there was lidocaine and a suture kit in your trailer and once to ask how much lidocaine to use. It's not my fault you returned both calls, but the second one wasn't until AFTER you had achieved, umm, completion. "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #44 September 30, 2008 Quote So I take it an AAD (alcohol assisted descent) was actually the cause of this incident, resulting in a RSL (really sore leg) the ethanol loading was an estimate and is determined by weight/previous ethanol exposure (well he is a skydiver so we know that he has some experience in this), hydration, as well as amount and type of ethanol ingested.DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #45 September 30, 2008 All fire leaps must be initiated high enough to return to straight and level flight to complete the leap before touchdown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #46 September 30, 2008 Were you naked? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #47 September 30, 2008 So ignoring the GPS (ground's probably slippery) he spotted visually and disregarded the BSR's (Boozers stumble radically) and just 'went for it'?! Has this been reported to the USPA (Unpopular & Stupid People of Arrogance) so that all issued fire-walking ratings can be reviewed? I hate seeing examples like this when usually competent people 'overstep' their abilities and end up giving the sport a sore shin! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdive 0 #48 September 30, 2008 The USPA has not been notified, but the FAA (Finest Assholes of America) are sending a representative to interwiew witnesses to determine if the jump was through clouds (of smoke)."We saved your gear. Now you can sell it when you get out of the hospital and upsize!!" "K-Dub" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #49 September 30, 2008 QuoteThe USPA has not been notified, but the FAA (Finest Assholes of America) are sending a representative to interview witnesses to determine if the jump was through clouds (of smoke). I know plenty of EAA members (experienced alcohol abusers) that would be happy to give a free consultation if you don't want to involve the FEDS (Fines Effecting Dumb Stunts) and all the bad press that brings. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skootz 0 #50 September 30, 2008 I will have to take back my statements of your bonfires being sub par. I'm sorry. If there managed to be an injury to the S&TA of all people then it must have been one hell of a bonfire. I wish I could have been there. You are all so sleeping in the car! Having all this fun without me. I'm so sad! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites