turtlespeed 226 #51 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Did a cutaway just after reaching Iraq. Appears someone else was packing my main. Glad to be rid of it. Recovery not necessary. New main is smaller and much more enjoyable to fly. Those skydiving analogies crack me up ... I'll attempt one myself ... I cutaway when I found out I was the reserve ... I had the "pleasure" of being stuck with the domestic chores, doing everything for him, while some else had the pleasure of enjoying his romancing and shagging ... O So . .. [S]I cutaway when I found out I was the reserve ... He caused a premature deployment, and I went back into freefall . . . I had the "pleasure" of being stuck with the domestic chores, doing everything for him I ended up as the pack bitch . . . but better for it , while some else had the pleasure of enjoying his romancing and shagging ...While someone else was getting the free coaching! But . . . Now, he has to pack for himself, and manifest is NOT letting him on any of MY loads, not THIS super otter!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #52 July 14, 2009 Thanks for the laugh "Turtle" - you are one twisted mofo - I like you ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #53 July 14, 2009 When the anologies are over done: Names changed except mine and slightly edited to protect the guilty: Gina thought that when you cut away a canopy that is no good to you and you upgrade to a new shinier main, the old one is NOT supposed to magically reappear and expect you to take it for a ride. Especially when it's better suited for student status, high school student status that is. July 7 at 7:02pm • Comment • LikeUnlike • Show Feedback (38)Hide Feedback (38) You like this. Sarah at 7:16pm July 7 you had your first cutaway? Bolas El Legendario at 7:16pm July 7 Canopies don't understand that. I chopped my main at SkyFest at Chester last year cuz it tried to kill me and then it tried to come right back. "Oh no, you had your chance, I'm with reserve right now. We'll talk after I land. Get away!!!" Other times they just leave for a few days or sometimes never come back... Gina at 7:20pm July 7 This one landed in the nasty bush of a high schooler. This is like the 3rd main I've cut away that found it's way back after I upgraded. You're always thankful for your reserve ride but it's time for something new. Guess the old mains just can't handle a bad ass flyer like me. Gina at 7:21pm July 7 And what's more annoying is when the cutaway can't stand you with your new main and tries to trick you into flying it again. Bill at 7:25pm July 7 i like metaphors Gina at 7:27pm July 7 Lol JJ you should have seen the metaphors flung around the first time I cut this one away. Bolas El Legendario at 7:29pm July 7 Somehow I really thought you were talking about skydiving... :-*) Oops Gina at 7:30pm July 7 No you didn't Bolas! Sarah at 7:31pm July 7 high schooler ewww, definite cutaway!!! Bolas El Legendario at 7:32pm July 7 Seriously. I was. The main and reserve canopyies in my story are exactly that. Gina at 7:32pm July 7 well couldn't have been that far out of high school, still creepy for someone nearly 30. Gina at 7:33pm July 7 haha nice Bolas...I'm going to refer you to my wall, sometime in April. Tim had some good skydiving metaphors thrown in there. Bolas El Legendario at 7:36pm July 7 You're nearly 30? :-o Bullshit... Tim at 7:37pm July 7 Well, you should just learn to pack and maintain your gear and you wouldn't have to chop all these malfunctions. Gina at 7:40pm July 7 I am not nearly 30--he is...oops I mean the cutaway is...I can't help it if the cutaways show up out of nowhere. Now that I have more experience and knowledge of good gear v not so good gear, I believe the cutaways will decrease. Tim at 7:44pm July 7 I think the reserve causes the cutaways. The main gets neglected because there is always a reserve to depend on, and malfunctions result. Personally, I think it would be best for you to have a single canopy, packed in a tight container with a shrivel flap. Gina at 7:47pm July 7 1) what's a shrivel flap? 2) but the reserve is so dependable 3) the reserve doesn't ask questions but is there to save you if you need to get rid of the main and doesn't mind not being used that often except for a repack here and there. Doug at 7:49pm July 7 Careful that you don't become to dependant on the reserve and what happens if it becomes the main? Do you get another reserve? Gina at 7:51pm July 7 Oh and I don't neglect my main...my mains fly just fine until they realize I might be a little too good for it and need to upgrade. They stall, I cut away and move on. Then they realize how good they had it when some novice cuts them away from a simple line twist. Bolas El Legendario at 7:51pm July 7 So Tim says BASE is the way to go... I tend to agree. 2 outs while they can be exciting can also lead to disaster particularly if the 2 (or more) don't get along or know the other was there beforehand. Tim at 7:55pm July 7 Yeah, I have seen some canopy transfers work ok, though. Timing is critical on that maneuver so they don't foul each other. Well, if you don't know what a shrivel flap is young lady you should ask someone like Sam. In non-analogy world it is a pile Velcro rectangle attached to your bridle that holds the 4 container flaps closed. This way, ... Read Moreyour pilot chute pulls the shrivel flap off the container regardless of direction of pull, and nothing is left holding the flaps closed. It is difficult to screw up and very predictable. Gina at 7:57pm July 7 First of all, I've never actually deployed the reserve. I've cutaway the main then activated my personal jet pack to power me to the ground w/o all of the BS. Second, the cutaway doesn't know what it wants but it just doesn't want me flying another main and will possibly tangle with the new main he assumes I've already purchased. Based on ... Read Moreexperience from a previous cutaway, I've learned that once you cutaway a main, don't bother trying have it repaired. Plus the fact that the most recent cutaway ended up in the bushes of a high school and now wants to come back to med school doesn't sit well with me. Sarah at 8:03pm July 7 from what you and I have talked about stay away from your reserve!! Your reserve SUCKS and is not dependable, at some point during flight it might cut YOU away!!! Tim at 8:03pm July 7 Same idea as before. Just pack a single canopy in as simple a container as you can find, with as few parts as possible. Inspect it thoroughly, and maintain it perfectly. It has to be selected carefully for the jump, not just chosen because you have it around, and certainly not borrowed. Then, it is neither a main or a reserve, there is nothing to entangle, no handles to pull, and once you exit you are committed until your feet are in the dirt. Gear fear is dangerous for your happiness. Gina at 8:13pm July 7 I concur --that reserve by the brand name beginning with "B" has been taken to the dump and shredded in an industrial reserve shredder :) Bolas El Legendario at 8:25pm July 7 Multiple canopies can be quite fun, but you need special canopies and a special container where all are aware of each other. Some may only be able to be deployed in pairs though. Check the individual specs for each canopy and the container... Gina at 8:27pm July 7 Once my piloting skills get a little better I'll definitely consider looking into mulitple canopy flight. Just as long as I'm the piloting the whole thing. I don't want no bitch thinking I'm trying to do some crew shit....just me and my multiple canopies. Bolas El Legendario at 8:28pm July 7 (insert joke about tandem harnesses here) Tim at 8:29pm July 7 Just bring lots and lots of hook knives. Gina at 8:30pm July 7 OMG if only regular people knew what we were actually talking about. Bolas El Legendario at 8:31pm July 7 Hell, I'm not sure I even know anymore... Something about trees? Gina at 8:32pm July 7 nah i keep my landing area nice and hedged...no shrubbery to get in the way. Bolas El Legendario at 8:35pm July 7 Canopies sometimes like a landing strip... Susan at 9:52pm July 7 I don't even know what to say about this... lol... your too much Gina at 3:23pm July 8 haha skydiving applies to life in everyway and Tim has some good advice on gear choice and canopy control. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #54 July 14, 2009 Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #55 July 14, 2009 Ha ha ... you too, Bolas O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #56 July 14, 2009 Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #57 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #58 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! It's all about your technique really... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #59 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! It's all about your technique really... Yeah - what about it - I'm flying the openings.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #60 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #61 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too. It helps if the landing strip is cleared of obstacles... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #62 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! It's all about your technique really... Well, technique and body position are the most influencing factors.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #63 July 14, 2009 Quote Ha ha ... you too, Bolas O (cheesy overdone bow) Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #64 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too. It helps if the landing strip is cleared of obstacles... Excpecially other jumpers and be extremely careful of the swoopers.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #65 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too. It helps if the landing strip is cleared of obstacles... Excpecially other jumpers and be extremely careful of the swoopers. One should know the landing patterns and traffic type/volume of an area beforehand... Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #66 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too. It helps if the landing strip is cleared of obstacles... Excpecially other jumpers and be extremely careful of the swoopers. One should know the landing patterns and traffic type/volume of an area beforehand... If there's too much traffic, find an alternate landing site... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #67 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too. It helps if the landing strip is cleared of obstacles... Excpecially other jumpers and be extremely careful of the swoopers. One should know the landing patterns and traffic type/volume of an area beforehand... If there's too much traffic, find an alternate landing site... Unless you're into that or do CReW...Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #68 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sweeet - I need some Canopy control courses - Like a LOT of canopy control courses! Are your landings short? Or are you yankin' on your toggles too much and going off course? [/:P] I think it might be the snivel, I can't get it to open right! Different canopies require different techniques: while sniveling may work for some, other may refuse to open. Some require (and like) more forcefulness. Not getting target fixated and focusing on the whole approach can help too. It helps if the landing strip is cleared of obstacles... Excpecially other jumpers and be extremely careful of the swoopers. One should know the landing patterns and traffic type/volume of an area beforehand... If there's too much traffic, find an alternate landing site... Unless you're into that or do CReW... HAH!! Either way you cut it, skydiving IS a group activity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #69 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote If there's too much traffic, find an alternate landing site... Unless you're into that or do CReW... HAH!! Either way you cut it, skydiving IS a group activity. I disagree a little, when I open my main, OR reserve - i want NO ONE anywhere near me! It's a private moment.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #70 July 14, 2009 Quote Quote Damn Im sorry! Hopefully it will turn out better for you. Him and Shaw break it off already? He broke it off in Shah?? OUCH. Bryan must be an enthusiastic one!! Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #71 July 15, 2009 Special place in hell for you again bry-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #72 July 15, 2009 Quote Special place in hell for you again bry You too since you started the conehead torture. Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #73 July 15, 2009 I....I....I..I never started a thing...I have no idea what it is that you speak of my ladyBRY -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #74 July 15, 2009 Quote I....I....I..I never started a thing...I have no idea what it is that you speak of my ladyBRY What's that saying about protesting too much? Yeah, well that applies to YOU!! Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #75 July 15, 2009 Quote Well,I did cutaway...now I'm looking to find my main and trying to get my reserve repackedKnow what I mean??? Sorry Bry! I too cutaway last year. My new main is wayyy more maneuverable, goes DOWN fast and is younger. Did I say younger??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
