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I know this is a stretch for you to consider, but some people are actually able to fall in love with who a person is instead of just what they look like. I know, shocking revelation, isn't it?


NICE SAVE! :)So....do you know any girls who are into this kind of guy?

But yeah I see where you are comming from? Hell some one married me! Though I think she may be blind considering how I look.


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Ok then....save the world....date a poorl dressed super shy engineer!
Shall I give him your number?
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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So....do you know any girls who are into this kind of guy?



Why yes, yes I do. I guess I'm lucky with the fact that my friends aren't shallow people.
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

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Ok then....save the world....date a poorl dressed super shy engineer!
Shall I give him your number?



I don't mercy date. And anyone who is a friend of yours... well, that's called "guilt by association".

And to tell you the truth... I call total fucking bullshit on this entire thread.

There's no way you have any friends.
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So....do you know any girls who are into this kind of guy?



Why yes, yes I do. I guess I'm lucky with the fact that my friends aren't shallow people.



Ok...so how about this, I hook up your friends with my friends and the world will be a better place?

And what is wrong with being a bit shallow? You girls are just as shallow as us guys! (note I don't mercy date) You just hide it better! (well some do)
I mean really! You have eyes right? You know what you like and dislike? And you don't see people calling you shallow?

God if I had a penny for every time I heard a girl say "You know, I know he's poorly dressed, and has an extra few pounds on him and is as outgoing as a brick....but I just want to wrap my legs around him and ride him like a mechanical bull!"
Well I would no pennies!

So should I IM you my friends contact info?
I don't care what you tell him about me as long as he finds some one he can be happy with.
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Why can't a voluptuous girl be considered hot? That's what I'm wondering.



The way he talks about his FRIENDS, makes you really want to be one, doesn't it? I mean - wow! Everyone wants to be talked about like this, don't they?


Like I said I'm just frustrated.
And I would much rather vent here than at him?
I mean...how do you tell some one....LOOK YOUR A WONDER DROK! YOU DRESS LIKE CRAP, YOU ARE A SOLID 50LBS OVER WEIGHT AND YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC SCARES GIRLS! And you want that gorgeous girl with the long legs in the micro mini to be all into you? WTF!
I'm not big on tough love, maybe he'll figure it out himself? Maybe?



Firstly, why do you have to vent so harshly? Why is it THAT frustrating to you that he does not meet your standards?

Secondly, if you were supposedly my friend, and behind my back decided that you were going to talk this way about me, you wouldn't have many teeth left to talk with, gum boy.

I wonder if this is just an act. If it is it is just annoying. I realize that people can be extremely self important and thick headed, but it has been a long while since I ran into the likes of you.

Thirdly, and probably the most important in my thinking: If he is truly your friend, you would be better served to ask him if he really likes who he is, and what he is about, and don't try to change him into what you think you want to be or what you consider right for him.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Firstly, why do you have to vent so harshly? Why is it THAT frustrating to you that he meet your standards?

Secondly, if you were supposedly my friend, and behind my back decided that you were going to talk this way about me, you wouldn't have many teeth left to talk with, gum boy.


Thirdly, and probably the most important in my thinking: If he is truly your friend, you would be better served to ask him if he really likes who he is, and what he is about, and don't try to change him into what you think you want to be or what you consider right for him.



Because all spring he asked me to go out with him...ok no big deal. I would teach him a few things be his wing man and he would just crash and burn non stop.

And it would be more rude if I just pointed out his flaws to him point blank, venting on the side helps me in that I'm less frustrated when he does something amazingly stupid like blast Gwar on the second date.

Maybe I just have to stand back? I've done all I can do? Maybe he needs to learn from his mistakes and rely less on others and more on himself like I did when I was 18?

But still you would have to be heartless if you don't feel bad for a friend making one epic mistake after another!

Maybe it's best if I let him drown a little?
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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And you don't see people calling you shallow?



No, I really don't think people consider me to be a shallow person. If anyone reading this disputes my statement, they are more than welcome to post their thoughts.

And just a FYI; my husband is a Telecom Engineer. ;)
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

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>Maybe it's best if I let him drown a little?

I read a book once about how it takes a series of failures for a person to finally get themselves on track. Career failures. Love failures. Business failures.

The failures show the person first hand that something undesirable occured as a result of their inputs, and that they need to change those behaviors. The trouble is, you only have so much motivation (or even so much self-control) available to find out what happened in each failure, and where to fix the problem. Relationships can be one of those fields, but it is super-difficult to keep on going after a failure in that respect. Skydiving is too. How many times are you allowed to fuck up in skydiving before you don't get any more chances?

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Firstly, why do you have to vent so harshly? Why is it THAT frustrating to you that he does not meet your standards?

Secondly, if you were supposedly my friend, and behind my back decided that you were going to talk this way about me, you wouldn't have many teeth left to talk with, gum boy.

I wonder if this is just an act. If it is it is just annoying. I realize that people can be extremely self important and thick headed, but it has been a long while since I ran into the likes of you.

Thirdly, and probably the most important in my thinking: If he is truly your friend, you would be better served to ask him if he really likes who he is, and what he is about, and don't try to change him into what you think you want to be or what you consider right for him.



This thread just doesn't want to go away ... I avoided opening it for a couple of days ... now I'm glad I did ...

Wow ... I naver "heard" Turtle "talk" like this before - it's awesome ... I love it ... kinda hot :$ ...

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>Maybe it's best if I let him drown a little?

I read a book once about how it takes a series of failures for a person to finally get themselves on track. Career failures. Love failures. Business failures.

The failures show the person first hand that something undesirable occured as a result of their inputs, and that they need to change those behaviors. The trouble is, you only have so much motivation (or even so much self-control) available to find out what happened in each failure, and where to fix the problem. Relationships can be one of those fields, but it is super-difficult to keep on going after a failure in that respect. Skydiving is too. How many times are you allowed to fuck up in skydiving before you don't get any more chances?



Thank you! Yes maybe it's best to let him fail so as to learn from his mistakes!

I'll just have to learn to sit there and watch and try and not get invovled.

Thanks! Here is to hope!
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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This thread just doesn't want to go away ... I avoided opening it for a couple of days ... now I'm glad I did ...

Wow ... I naver "heard" Turtle "talk" like this before - it's awesome ... I love it ... kinda hot :$ ...

O



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I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Why are you so consumed by this?


Becaue I like solving proglems. And I'm seeing his issue as a problem. No more different than a broken bike. But he's not....and shouldn't be treated as such.

And well the last few posts have gotten me to accept that I have to let my friend make his own mistakes. And no matter how fustrating it may be to watch him crash and burn and crash and burn....that I should just let him do his thing till he develops the needed skills to talk to girls and not scare them away.
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The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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Perhaps the best thing you can do for your friend now is suggest he asks another one of his friends for help. It's obvious whatever you're doing isn't working.

Why are you so consumed by this?



He is not ... he wants attention and found an angle that works ... i.e. piss off (most) everyone on this site.

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Tell me the truth now. . .

Does this friend really exist, or is this some sort of manifestation of yourself. there's a hell of a lot of internal (maybe unhealthy?) motivation to fix this guy. I am seeing a lot of similarities between your description of him and your response to replies on this post.

never mind. Olympia nailed it
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Tell me the truth now. . .

Does this friend really exist, or is this some sort of manifestation of yourself. there's a hell of a lot of internal (maybe unhealthy?) motivation to fix this guy. I am seeing a lot of similarities between your description of him and your response to replies on this post.

never mind. Olympia nailed it


I was this guy! Up to the age of 17 I was this guy!
Then I beame an exchange student and my host brother tought me how to talk to girls and how to dress and how to play this stupid game.

If it wasn't for him and his hard work......I would be no different than my friend.
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You're so full of shit it's not even funny.
:S


No mate honest! I was a super dork before I became an exchange student to Bolivia.
And my host brother Pablo just couldn't stand there and watch me crash and burn. He said it was I was giving the family a bad name..

So long story short, I became his caddy and while playing golf he would teach me about how to dress, how to approach a girl and how to not lose her interest. Basically he taught me that I shouldn't fear rejection and I shouldn't take the game too seriously.

In the evenings when we would go out he would send me on missions at the bar or the blub.
He would pick out a girl and tell me to go over and ask her name or ask her for the time or ask her for her number. If I did well, high fives and drinks. If I crashed and burned he pulled me aside and we talked about it.

He was a great teacher! I wish I was as good as him.
And I'm sure he bitched to his friend for my total lack of skill as well.
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The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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We're all so delighted you became a major player at 17.
One might venture to guess you would have the skillz required to actually help your "friend" instead of mock him in a public forum.
:S


No I do not have the skills. By comming here and venting and reading your posts....no I do not have the skills to help. [:/]

I wish I could help but I can't. He needs to unlearn all his bad habbits and grow as an individual. To learn how to hunt by himself and not have pepole feed him. Only then will he be happy.
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