peregrinerose 0 #1 July 21, 2005 This is just an idle curiosity question, nothing I'm thinking of actually having done. We had a crappy spot and we were getting as close to the DZ as possible by rear risering the whole way to a nearby corn field. Due to a blister on my hand which ripped open and bled all over the place holding onto the risers, it was a bit uncomfortable So, is there such a thing as having loops on rear risers like the front risers for such occasions? Pros/cons if even feasable? I don't want them, since under normal circumstances risering in is pretty easy for me, just curious if that would work for students or people with less upper body strength or larger canopies? Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 July 21, 2005 I think you may be better served with some Vet Wrap or possibly riser blocks, so you don't get your hands, toggles, etc tangled in loops.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #3 July 21, 2005 I have been known to hook my fingers in the suspension lines just above the connector links. If you open a long way up wind of the DZ on a windy day, you are better off just leaving the brakes stowed and riser steering to 2,000/close to DZ. Leaving the brakes stowed helps reduce rate of descent, exposing your canopy to winds aloft for an extra minute or two. Not much point to sewing extra loops or blocks on rear risers because you will use them so rarely and they create additional confusion if you are trying to change your grip on steering toggles and accidentally grab a loop at low altitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #4 July 21, 2005 Hooking my fingers in suspension lines wouldn't work, I have a hell of a time just reaching toggles and can't even stall my canopy without wrapping line around my hands. Once I get my growth spurt, that shouldn't be an issue. I really have no desire to modify my rig in any way, just wondered if it was something ever done or not. On that jump, I did keep toggles stowed and swore a lot as the blood dripped Thanks for the input. I don't know shit about rigging, so always have a zillion questions in my head about it. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #5 July 21, 2005 Jen, ... weirdness... I had someone ask me if I could sew some re-riser loops on thier rig / risers after almost the exact same circumstances... e.g. "bad spot"... "trying to get back" I usually grab the rear risers at the connector links and pull down on them there when trying to re-riser back from a long spot. It doesn't take a lot. I think most people over-do it when trying to rear-riser back from a long spot. You also said, "I have a hell of a time just reaching toggles and can't even stall my canopy without wrapping line around my hands"... How long are your risers? ... and, how tall are you? Switching to a shorter set of risers would help... I'd suggest 19" risers if your rig currently has risers longer then that... even a couple of inches can make a diff... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aironscott 3 #6 July 22, 2005 Jen - I've never understood this pulling the rear riser thing. It is unnecessary. All you need to do is grab the rear risers with your hands backwards, then twist your hands to their natural position and you've half wrapped the rear risers around your hands. No pulling involved. Just twist the risers around your hands. Its kind of like taking a wrap on your steering lines. I do not recommend this techinque for front risers though. Try this next time you are up high. You'll find it much easier than hanging on the rear risers for a couple of minutes trying to make it back. Hope this helps, Aaron“God Damn Mountain Dew MotherFuckers!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyflyer1 0 #7 July 22, 2005 Wear gloves? Neumans Tactified should allow you to grab the rears without any injury to your hands (also protects them from pointy things on the outside of aircraft). Also gives you a better grip. Jonathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #8 July 26, 2005 I'm 5'3" not sure of riser length. Due to dropping another 15 lbs since I started on a 170, I'm probably going to end up downsizing to a 150 in the near future (same wing loading), so will be sure to add that to my list of questions regarding the new canopy. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #9 July 26, 2005 I do high clear/pulls every few weeks on a sunset load. Partly because it is pretty, but primarily to play with my canopy. I will definitely add that to my 'to do' list. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #10 July 26, 2005 I can't stand wearing gloves unless absolutely necessary, never have liked gloves, even in a non-jumping setting. I'd rather deal with a bloody hand on rare occasion than gloves Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #11 July 26, 2005 QuoteI can't stand wearing gloves unless absolutely necessary, never have liked gloves, even in a non-jumping setting. I'd rather deal with a bloody hand on rare occasion than gloves Ooohh... Jen, you must not jump much in the winter then if you don't like jumping with gloves... ... gloves are a good thing, believe me, a bloody hand even from time to time is not. Me... I wear gloves year round. Batting gloves with liners in the winter and those open finger, mesh back, leather palm weight lifting gloves in the summer... give them a try if you don't like goves... they cover up a good portion of your hands, but still leave your fingers free so you can "feel" stuff, which is a big complaint folks have against gloves. In the winter, even out here in sunny SoCal, goves are a must as it can be "minus-butt-ass-cold" at altitude. Anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #12 July 27, 2005 QuoteOoohh... Jen, you must not jump much in the winter then if you don't like jumping with gloves... I do jump all winter, and definitely with gloves. Too freaking cold in PA to go without! Depending on temp at altitude, I wear them on high hop/pops as well. Don't need numb fingers at 13500 feet I also wear them if I can't get my wedding/engagement rings off, which happens after a weekend of busting my ass packing rigs. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #13 July 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteOoohh... Jen, you must not jump much in the winter then if you don't like jumping with gloves... I do jump all winter, and definitely with gloves. Too freaking cold in PA to go without! Depending on temp at altitude, I wear them on high hop/pops as well. Don't need numb fingers at 13500 feet I also wear them if I can't get my wedding/engagement rings off, which happens after a weekend of busting my ass packing rigs. Jen ... you should have made him get you a wedding rig not a wedding ring... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #14 July 27, 2005 Quote... you should have made him get you a wedding rig not a wedding ring... I agree completely Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #15 July 27, 2005 QuoteQuote... you should have made him get you a wedding rig not a wedding ring... I agree completely ... well, trade the ring in on a rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
