livenletfly 0 #1 July 12, 2005 a few weeks ago there was discussion in the forums about velocity's brake settings being moved 2 inches to speed up openings. this info was given to me by a master rigger that stated pd is now changing all brake settings when the canopy's are sent back to be relined, and all new velos have the new brake setting. the reasons i was told was to speed up the opening to reduce the searching that can cause line twists. well this all sounded logical to me exept a freind and i called pd to verify this information and were suprised at their response. there has been NO changes in the brake settings ever! nor do they recomend changing the brake settings. i dont know why this master rigger stated this as fact that pd has made these changes, but i am gladd i checked it out for myself. according to pd it is untrue and NOT RECOMENDED to change the brake settings on the velocity. besides i love the opening of my velocity and wouldnt change a thing now that ive gotten to jump one.> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #2 July 12, 2005 Jeff, That would be me That you are refering to, except that I never told you that PD HAD changed the settings.I said they may have! That response was in my last email to you. We changed the brake settings and found that the canopy opens better and more stable, not faster. I relayed that info to one of my friends at PD with hopes that may change it with our findings. We still install line sets with the deeper setting with great responses from the customers. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 July 12, 2005 QuoteWe still install line sets with the deeper setting with great responses from the customers. Just to confirm, "deeper" to you means moving the cat's eye closer to the canopy on the brake line?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #4 July 12, 2005 Jp, That is correct. It seems to keep the canopy from letting one side inflate faster than the other side. When one side does that it will began flying around the other side causing a spinup. It just seems to help.. Joe Bennet's canopy was about the third one I changed. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #5 July 12, 2005 I'll further confirm what Mel says about Joe's Velo as I jumped with him last summer. The 2" inch deeper setting seems to make the canopy "seek" less at the end of the opening and stay true to heading provided you stay neutral in the harness. -Jondeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #6 July 12, 2005 Quotebesides i love the opening of my velocity and wouldnt change a thing now that ive gotten to jump one. if you like the way it opens dont change a thing... i for one cannot stand it when one side inflates before the other. this has got to be one of my biggest pet peeves.. if i had not fixed the problem with my removable slider, joe and mel would have moved my brake settings for me. no questions asked.. if you like it the way it opens fine, keep it... if you dont, there is a cure for it.... i was in that conversation also, and nobody said p.d. came up with this or that they recomend it.. of course they dont recomend it. it isnt there factory setting... but that doesnt make it perfect... i like the way they open better when the brake lines are changed.. unless i didnt have a problem in the first place.. i would trust what mel tells you, he isnt going to steer you wrong. but you should also trust p.d. and if your not having one side inflate before the other then you have nothing to worry about... not all the canopies do it.... and dont give that body position crap... it has nothing to do with why one side inflates before the other... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #7 July 12, 2005 My removable slider makes the openings much more on heading with my velo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 July 12, 2005 What's the difference in the dimensions between that one and the stock one? I'll be moving the brake settings up 2 inches on mine since the openigs are quite "interesting"My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #9 July 12, 2005 What size do you have? MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #10 July 12, 2005 75My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #11 July 12, 2005 1 7/8 inches towards the canopy. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #12 July 13, 2005 Quote1 7/8 inches towards the canopy. So basically.. 2 inches Thanks!My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #13 July 13, 2005 QuoteWhat size do you have? MEL mel, his question was in response to spazz's removable post... well the diff. is the rings the, sturdyness of the slider and it is removable. from what i can see... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #14 July 13, 2005 QuoteMy removable slider makes the openings much more on heading with my velo. fixed mine too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #15 July 13, 2005 Quote1 7/8 inches towards the canopy. MEL And what would the distance be for a 90 ? I need a reline now. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #16 July 13, 2005 2 1/4 inches towards the Canopy. The rest of the larger sizes are 2 1/2 inches. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #17 July 13, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat size do you have? MEL Quote mel, his question was in response to spazz's removable post... You know I can't read well!Skyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #18 July 13, 2005 It's just a hair bigger, but there are cables going to all corners, and I thing it stiffens up the slider. This doesn't allow it to flex as much, thus keeping the canopy more on heading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #19 July 13, 2005 You said Spazzz... huh huh huh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #20 July 13, 2005 QuoteIt's just a hair bigger, but there are cables going to all corners, and I thing it stiffens up the slider. This doesn't allow it to flex as much, thus keeping the canopy more on heading. Is that opening at terminal, sub-terminal or both? I tend to have slightly more direct openings with a RDS which frightens me away from trying terminal opening. At sub terminal I don't notice the seek with either the RDS or standard slider. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #21 July 13, 2005 I have only jumped the removable bag once, and it was a faster opening, but that was opening at 17,000MSL on a hot day. With just the slider it opens really nicely terminal or subterminal. I have only had quick openings when I have been going fast(last jump of the day, being lazy, and not slowing down). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #22 July 13, 2005 we are all jumping the same setup here in atl, and there has got to be 3000+ terminal openings with it and no complaints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
speedy 0 #15 July 13, 2005 Quote1 7/8 inches towards the canopy. MEL And what would the distance be for a 90 ? I need a reline now. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #16 July 13, 2005 2 1/4 inches towards the Canopy. The rest of the larger sizes are 2 1/2 inches. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #17 July 13, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat size do you have? MEL Quote mel, his question was in response to spazz's removable post... You know I can't read well!Skyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #18 July 13, 2005 It's just a hair bigger, but there are cables going to all corners, and I thing it stiffens up the slider. This doesn't allow it to flex as much, thus keeping the canopy more on heading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #19 July 13, 2005 You said Spazzz... huh huh huh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #20 July 13, 2005 QuoteIt's just a hair bigger, but there are cables going to all corners, and I thing it stiffens up the slider. This doesn't allow it to flex as much, thus keeping the canopy more on heading. Is that opening at terminal, sub-terminal or both? I tend to have slightly more direct openings with a RDS which frightens me away from trying terminal opening. At sub terminal I don't notice the seek with either the RDS or standard slider. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #21 July 13, 2005 I have only jumped the removable bag once, and it was a faster opening, but that was opening at 17,000MSL on a hot day. With just the slider it opens really nicely terminal or subterminal. I have only had quick openings when I have been going fast(last jump of the day, being lazy, and not slowing down). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #22 July 13, 2005 we are all jumping the same setup here in atl, and there has got to be 3000+ terminal openings with it and no complaints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Spizzzarko 0 #18 July 13, 2005 It's just a hair bigger, but there are cables going to all corners, and I thing it stiffens up the slider. This doesn't allow it to flex as much, thus keeping the canopy more on heading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #19 July 13, 2005 You said Spazzz... huh huh huh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #20 July 13, 2005 QuoteIt's just a hair bigger, but there are cables going to all corners, and I thing it stiffens up the slider. This doesn't allow it to flex as much, thus keeping the canopy more on heading. Is that opening at terminal, sub-terminal or both? I tend to have slightly more direct openings with a RDS which frightens me away from trying terminal opening. At sub terminal I don't notice the seek with either the RDS or standard slider. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #21 July 13, 2005 I have only jumped the removable bag once, and it was a faster opening, but that was opening at 17,000MSL on a hot day. With just the slider it opens really nicely terminal or subterminal. I have only had quick openings when I have been going fast(last jump of the day, being lazy, and not slowing down). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #22 July 13, 2005 we are all jumping the same setup here in atl, and there has got to be 3000+ terminal openings with it and no complaints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
