PLFXpert 0 #26 October 1, 2009 QuoteOver the last 6 months I have gradually moved my diet to a clean diet. What this means is little or no processed foods as well as sticking to a low carb/high protein diet. Is there a regime and/or website you can provide from which you are obtaining the "clean" aspect of your new diet?Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #27 October 1, 2009 I only buy at the store what I can't hunt, gather, or grow. For example right now what is available are squirrels, rabbits, grouse, ducks(this weekend), trout, garlic, apples and cider,honey,mushrooms and what I froze from my garden this summer which was not much cuz I got rained out. can't live without cheddar, soy milk, etc...... and chocolate chips Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #28 October 2, 2009 Quote Quote Truthfully, I know that's the way to go. High protein, low carb Then you should do more research. Carbs are great in the form of whole grains, fruits & vegetables. These should make up the majority of your diet. Avoiding processed foods, however, I agree with. Sorry but I will disagree here for MY situation. I am trying to build lean muscle mass. My body requires a decent amount of protien to do so. Certain body types can in fact do ok with higher carb diets, but most (unless you are an endurance athlete) cannot. So I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. I dont know a single body builder/weight lifter or gym rat for that matter that would EVER recommend primary carb for everyone. Yes the carbs you list are the only ones we should EVER be eating, but not the Majority of everyones diets. For you this is fine, for someone who happens to be an ectomorph body type, high carbs are fine. However, if the person is mesomorph or endomorph that is HORRIBLE advice She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #29 October 2, 2009 QuoteQuoteOver the last 6 months I have gradually moved my diet to a clean diet. What this means is little or no processed foods as well as sticking to a low carb/high protein diet. Is there a regime and/or website you can provide from which you are obtaining the "clean" aspect of your new diet?[/repl The primary goal is for me to removed all processed foods. My information is coming from several body building sites and nutritionists. I am trying to develop a toned and muscular body. I don't have all the links handy here, but there are tons of places for information. I also am working with a trainer. My diet is geared towards my level of working out at the gym, as I spend 7-8 hours a week between lifting and cardio. What I am eating is not what the general population should be doing as I am feeding my body to repair after long hard work outs. Bottom line for me is removing boxed and process foods, cooking all of my own meals with the occasional meal out. I pretty much make almost everything from scratch for the week on Sunday, then package it in portions and either freeze or refrigerate.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #30 October 2, 2009 When I read this threads title I thought you got drunk and had been in Gene's trailer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pokerstar 0 #31 October 2, 2009 I don't want to eat anything, buy anything or process anything as a career. I dont want to eat anything bought or processed or eat anything sold or processed or cookanything sold, bought or processed as a career. I dont want to do that. My father's in the army. He wants me to join, but I can't cook for that corporation, so what I've been doing lately is kick-boxing, which is a new sport...as far as career longevity, I dont really know. I cant figure it all out tonight, sir, (with apologies to Lloyd Dobler)Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. --- The Dude --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #32 October 2, 2009 QuoteWhat I am eating is not what the general population should be doing as I am feeding my body to repair after long hard work outs. This was the information missing in your original post. I did not realize this was a body-builder thread and incorrectly assumed you were referring to weightloss and maintaining a generally healthy, balanced diet.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #33 October 2, 2009 QuoteSo I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. If she is not also body-building, she should definitely do more research. I do not believe I am the only one who did not realize your OP was referring to body-building.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eeneR 3 #34 October 2, 2009 Quote Quote So I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. If she is not also body-building, she should definitely do more research. I do not believe I am the only one who did not realize your OP was referring to body-building. You missed part of my point, you brought up the whole statement about people should be eating more carbs which is far from the truth. Body building or not, each person has a specific body type. That body type has specific requirements in order to function properly and maintain a healthy weight. BTW, she too has been working with a trainer , so she has done research. I still ask you to do some research on body types and macro nutrient requirements. Yes I am leaning on the body building side, however they have a great plan for becoming leaner and eating clean then anywhere else I have found. The amount of research and work these people have done in order to sculpt, shape and hone their bodies is amazing. Macro nutrient requirements vary person to person. So weather or not I am body building or anyone else, each of us has specific needs to make our body run more efficiently. There is no end all/be all solution that works for everyone. I am trying to correct your blanket statement that we should all be eating high carb (clean) diets. That is far from the truth. Our body requires a decent amount of protein to maintain muscle. In addition we do need a proper amount of carbs to keep ourselves fueled. However, too many carbs of ANY kind if not eaten will become stored as fat for most people. This statement excludes those that are a true ectomorph. One of the thing that society has problems with today is the scale and what they look like. There are tons of people out there that are what is called Skinny Fat. They might be a size 6 and weight 115 lbs. But they have little or no muscle mass and have a body fat Percentage that is high. These people in some cases tend to not eat enough protein or have a completely unbalanced diet all together. Again as I said before, what I am eating for me is just that, for me. Everyone is different each person will have different dietetic needs. What I am trying to make clear here is there is no blanket assumption for everyone. Heck I have had to play with my Macro-nutrient percentages and caloric intake over the last few months because I plateaued on fat loss. The funny thing for me, my calories had dropped too low for my lifting load, I had to up them. So even the amount of calories per day one should eat varies on each and every persons needs. If a person doesn't eat enough their body will go into starvation mode and start storing everything as fat and start burning away that precious lean muscle mass instead. I could go on and on about this as I have been doing a crap load of research, talking to tons of different Dr's, nutritionist and body builders. Bottom line for everyone, take care of yourselves. We have one life and one chance with this body. It is like that bad ass classic muscle car, you sure as hell wouldn't want to stick 87 octane in that bad boy now would you? We take care of the most amazing machine we have been given and it will stay strong and beautiful for a lot longer She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #35 October 2, 2009 Quoteyou brought up the whole statement about people should be eating more carbs which is far from the truth. I said carbs in the form of whole grains, fruits & vegetables should make up the majority of one's diet. This is true for the general population. I did not read the rest of your post. Too long. Felt ranty.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eeneR 3 #36 October 2, 2009 Quote Quote you brought up the whole statement about people should be eating more carbs which is far from the truth. I said carbs in the form of whole grains, fruits & vegetables should make up the majority of one's diet. This is true for the general population. I did not read the rest of your post. Too long. Felt ranty. LOL you crack me up. Heaven forbid someone tries to explain something to you. I will say it again, not every ones diet should not be Majority of carbs...PERIOD...I dont care if it is clean or not. Yes we need to eat them, but we must eat balanced for what is right for ones body. What I have bolded is what I am telling you that you are not correct about. I give up, it is clearly obvious you are unable to understand what works for you does not work for the rest of the world. Yes it was a rant, but obviously you refuse to leave your little box You refuse to read because you refuse to believe you might actually be wrong It happens, I am wrong sometimes too. This time however I will gladly stand my ground. I hope someone learns a little something about how everyone's body is different. And congrats to you PLFXpert if you are one of those lucky people who in fact are Ectomorph, oh wait since you didn't bother to read you probably have no idea what that is...never mind.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #37 October 2, 2009 Popcorn, anybody? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eeneR 3 #38 October 2, 2009 Quote Popcorn, anybody? Nah, I have far better things to do with my energy then argue this one anymore actually. If that is what she believes then fine. I said my peace, and will defend my stance....but I have nothing more to say. There is so much information out there, documented information by Dr's who are deep into nutrition and how the body works it is amazing. I have learned so much over the last year it is incredible. Now if anyone has any constructive input or questions then by all means, add or ask. But assuming that one set way is how everything needs to be is just plain ignorance.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpwally 0 #39 October 2, 2009 How bout some progress pics,,, smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpwally 0 #40 October 2, 2009 Ha Ha,,,i know a few people like that,,,print your post and put it away,,,when you are 40 read it and then again when you turn 50 read it,,you body changes whether you like it or not,,and it can turn on you within months,,, buy enjoy the next 3 yrs,,, smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eeneR 3 #41 October 2, 2009 Quote How bout some progress pics,,, I am going to hopefully get another round of pics done here in the next month or so. I am about to go into a Heavy lifting phaze, after that I will post some :-) For now I put a shoulder shot up as my avatar on here :) This pic was taken 2 months ago. I still have lots of work to do to both lean out and build muscle, but it is getting there You see I found out first hand what happens when one does not eat proper for their body type, you get fat And trust me once you get over 30 it is 100x easier to do. I had got up to a size 16....big girl....all my fault. I am down to a size 8 now, 23% body fat, 148 lbs @ 5'3". Yes kids I have lots of lean muscle mass with a bit of fat still to go in order to fully expose. I wont get too much smaller then a size 6 I think, as my Quads are kind of huge :D I cant wait to try and get good pics of the quad split definition! I love my legs! She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tigra 0 #42 October 2, 2009 QuoteQuoteSo I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. If she is not also body-building, she should definitely do more research. I do not believe I am the only one who did not realize your OP was referring to body-building. Actually, I have done the research. I am not exactly body building but I am trying to build muscle mass as most women in my age group should. I'm also trying to lose body fat. In the past 3 years, I have gone from "borderline obese" to where I am at now which I guess I would call "borderline fit". Its still a work in process but I know what works for me. 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warpedskydiver 0 #30 October 2, 2009 When I read this threads title I thought you got drunk and had been in Gene's trailer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pokerstar 0 #31 October 2, 2009 I don't want to eat anything, buy anything or process anything as a career. I dont want to eat anything bought or processed or eat anything sold or processed or cookanything sold, bought or processed as a career. I dont want to do that. My father's in the army. He wants me to join, but I can't cook for that corporation, so what I've been doing lately is kick-boxing, which is a new sport...as far as career longevity, I dont really know. I cant figure it all out tonight, sir, (with apologies to Lloyd Dobler)Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. --- The Dude --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #32 October 2, 2009 QuoteWhat I am eating is not what the general population should be doing as I am feeding my body to repair after long hard work outs. This was the information missing in your original post. I did not realize this was a body-builder thread and incorrectly assumed you were referring to weightloss and maintaining a generally healthy, balanced diet.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #33 October 2, 2009 QuoteSo I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. If she is not also body-building, she should definitely do more research. I do not believe I am the only one who did not realize your OP was referring to body-building.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #34 October 2, 2009 Quote Quote So I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. If she is not also body-building, she should definitely do more research. I do not believe I am the only one who did not realize your OP was referring to body-building. You missed part of my point, you brought up the whole statement about people should be eating more carbs which is far from the truth. Body building or not, each person has a specific body type. That body type has specific requirements in order to function properly and maintain a healthy weight. BTW, she too has been working with a trainer , so she has done research. I still ask you to do some research on body types and macro nutrient requirements. Yes I am leaning on the body building side, however they have a great plan for becoming leaner and eating clean then anywhere else I have found. The amount of research and work these people have done in order to sculpt, shape and hone their bodies is amazing. Macro nutrient requirements vary person to person. So weather or not I am body building or anyone else, each of us has specific needs to make our body run more efficiently. There is no end all/be all solution that works for everyone. I am trying to correct your blanket statement that we should all be eating high carb (clean) diets. That is far from the truth. Our body requires a decent amount of protein to maintain muscle. In addition we do need a proper amount of carbs to keep ourselves fueled. However, too many carbs of ANY kind if not eaten will become stored as fat for most people. This statement excludes those that are a true ectomorph. One of the thing that society has problems with today is the scale and what they look like. There are tons of people out there that are what is called Skinny Fat. They might be a size 6 and weight 115 lbs. But they have little or no muscle mass and have a body fat Percentage that is high. These people in some cases tend to not eat enough protein or have a completely unbalanced diet all together. Again as I said before, what I am eating for me is just that, for me. Everyone is different each person will have different dietetic needs. What I am trying to make clear here is there is no blanket assumption for everyone. Heck I have had to play with my Macro-nutrient percentages and caloric intake over the last few months because I plateaued on fat loss. The funny thing for me, my calories had dropped too low for my lifting load, I had to up them. So even the amount of calories per day one should eat varies on each and every persons needs. If a person doesn't eat enough their body will go into starvation mode and start storing everything as fat and start burning away that precious lean muscle mass instead. I could go on and on about this as I have been doing a crap load of research, talking to tons of different Dr's, nutritionist and body builders. Bottom line for everyone, take care of yourselves. We have one life and one chance with this body. It is like that bad ass classic muscle car, you sure as hell wouldn't want to stick 87 octane in that bad boy now would you? We take care of the most amazing machine we have been given and it will stay strong and beautiful for a lot longer She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #35 October 2, 2009 Quoteyou brought up the whole statement about people should be eating more carbs which is far from the truth. I said carbs in the form of whole grains, fruits & vegetables should make up the majority of one's diet. This is true for the general population. I did not read the rest of your post. Too long. Felt ranty.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #36 October 2, 2009 Quote Quote you brought up the whole statement about people should be eating more carbs which is far from the truth. I said carbs in the form of whole grains, fruits & vegetables should make up the majority of one's diet. This is true for the general population. I did not read the rest of your post. Too long. Felt ranty. LOL you crack me up. Heaven forbid someone tries to explain something to you. I will say it again, not every ones diet should not be Majority of carbs...PERIOD...I dont care if it is clean or not. Yes we need to eat them, but we must eat balanced for what is right for ones body. What I have bolded is what I am telling you that you are not correct about. I give up, it is clearly obvious you are unable to understand what works for you does not work for the rest of the world. Yes it was a rant, but obviously you refuse to leave your little box You refuse to read because you refuse to believe you might actually be wrong It happens, I am wrong sometimes too. This time however I will gladly stand my ground. I hope someone learns a little something about how everyone's body is different. And congrats to you PLFXpert if you are one of those lucky people who in fact are Ectomorph, oh wait since you didn't bother to read you probably have no idea what that is...never mind.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #37 October 2, 2009 Popcorn, anybody? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #38 October 2, 2009 Quote Popcorn, anybody? Nah, I have far better things to do with my energy then argue this one anymore actually. If that is what she believes then fine. I said my peace, and will defend my stance....but I have nothing more to say. There is so much information out there, documented information by Dr's who are deep into nutrition and how the body works it is amazing. I have learned so much over the last year it is incredible. Now if anyone has any constructive input or questions then by all means, add or ask. But assuming that one set way is how everything needs to be is just plain ignorance.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #39 October 2, 2009 How bout some progress pics,,, smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #40 October 2, 2009 Ha Ha,,,i know a few people like that,,,print your post and put it away,,,when you are 40 read it and then again when you turn 50 read it,,you body changes whether you like it or not,,and it can turn on you within months,,, buy enjoy the next 3 yrs,,, smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #41 October 2, 2009 Quote How bout some progress pics,,, I am going to hopefully get another round of pics done here in the next month or so. I am about to go into a Heavy lifting phaze, after that I will post some :-) For now I put a shoulder shot up as my avatar on here :) This pic was taken 2 months ago. I still have lots of work to do to both lean out and build muscle, but it is getting there You see I found out first hand what happens when one does not eat proper for their body type, you get fat And trust me once you get over 30 it is 100x easier to do. I had got up to a size 16....big girl....all my fault. I am down to a size 8 now, 23% body fat, 148 lbs @ 5'3". Yes kids I have lots of lean muscle mass with a bit of fat still to go in order to fully expose. I wont get too much smaller then a size 6 I think, as my Quads are kind of huge :D I cant wait to try and get good pics of the quad split definition! I love my legs! She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #42 October 2, 2009 QuoteQuoteSo I would beg to differ on you telling her to do more research, I believe you need to understand the situation at hand. If she is not also body-building, she should definitely do more research. I do not believe I am the only one who did not realize your OP was referring to body-building. Actually, I have done the research. I am not exactly body building but I am trying to build muscle mass as most women in my age group should. I'm also trying to lose body fat. In the past 3 years, I have gone from "borderline obese" to where I am at now which I guess I would call "borderline fit". Its still a work in process but I know what works for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #43 October 2, 2009 Thanks,,looks very nice indeed,,, Good luck ! smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
