katzurki 0 #1 July 7, 2005 Is it normal for the label on my canopy (Hornet) to be completely unreadable at about 200 jumps? I can't say it's been always packed neatly -- I rented it out for a hundred jumps or so -- and I am sure about the number of jumps it has... How do I retrieve its S/N if the label is all but unreadable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #2 July 7, 2005 Alot of labels I have seen on not so new canopies are illegible.. 200 jumps though.. makes you wonder what kind of stress you are putting on the canopy. Do you keep it out of the sun as much as possible? -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #3 July 7, 2005 Personally, I love and cherish it very much But I rented it out in order not to pay the rent for a couple months, on weekends, so I guess most of the abuse came from then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 July 7, 2005 If you have the original manual the S/N may be on that. If you know the original buyers name and dealer they may have records to indicate what S/N was shipped. Otherwise your SOL. Make up your own if you want one.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #5 July 7, 2005 My canopy has about 100 jumps on it and was new when I got it. It has almost always been packed indoors. The label is almost un-readable except for the model, size, serial number and DOM that was written in permanent ink by the manufacturer. This canopy was made by a major manufacturer."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #6 July 7, 2005 The black lettering on my Hornet label was screened on, not dyed, so it flaked off. I think I can read the serial number if I try really hard. Some manufacturers produce their labels to have more durable lettering, like this old 1994 PD 170 I got where the fabric is definitely well-worn but the label is 100% readable. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 July 7, 2005 QuoteThe black lettering on my Hornet label was screened on, not dyed, so it flaked off. I think I can read the serial number if I try really hard. Some manufacturers produce their labels to have more durable lettering, like this old 1994 PD 170 I got where the fabric is definitely well-worn but the label is 100% readable. From AS8015-B: Marking: Except as noted below, the following information shall be legibly and permanently marked on each major component in a location subject to a minimum of obliteration: a. Part number, including dash numbers b. Manufacturer’s name and address c. Date of manufacture (month and year) and serial number d. FAA TSO-C23 ( ) e. Maximum operating limits (see 1.2 and 4.3.4) The markings are required on a reserve, not on a main. Plus a reserve does not get the wear and tear that a main does. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,451 #8 July 8, 2005 Sparks, A question for you: What words would you use to define the term 'permanent' in that requirement? No weasel-wording allowed, just be specific. Yes, this is a little bit of a test; and sorry to pick on you but you seem informed/outspoken on things like this. I ask because years ago I spent about two hours in a somewhat 'heated' discussion with an FAA Aviation Specialist at the Seattle ACO when she was trying to 'gig' me for not using a 'permanent' marking product. Some evening, over a brew, I'll tell you how I finally got her to give up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #9 July 8, 2005 QuoteSparks, A question for you: What words would you use to define the term 'permanent' in that requirement? No weasel-wording allowed, just be specific. Yes, this is a little bit of a test; and sorry to pick on you but you seem informed/outspoken on things like this. I ask because years ago I spent about two hours in a somewhat 'heated' discussion with an FAA Aviation Specialist at the Seattle ACO when she was trying to 'gig' me for not using a 'permanent' marking product. Some evening, over a brew, I'll tell you how I finally got her to give up. Jerry, The best answer I can give you is "permanent" is what the FAA representative you are talking to at the moment says it is. When it comes down to it, it is their definition that counts not ours. Not trying to "weasel-word", just don't know what else to tell you. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #10 July 8, 2005 QuoteSome evening, over a brew, I'll tell you how I finally got her to give up. This is one I want to hear... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #11 July 8, 2005 QuoteSome evening, over a brew, I'll tell you how I finally got her to give up. I think I would enjoy that. Nothing better than cold brew and good conversation.SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites