1080p vs 720p, Plasma vs LCD..

[xtravrtsoul 0]

Doesn't matter just as long I get to still watch my porn.

Ok really, I have LCD's and they are both really nice. I love them. One is a Pioneer (huge) and one is a Visio for the bedroom. The Visio has 1080p if and when I decide to get HD in the room but really do I need HD in the bedroom? Nah. So the Pioneer gets all the luck with the HD. Makes the football players asses look great

You create life, life does not create you.

[SkyBastard 0]

i am actually only buying a new tv so that i can look at footballers asses in HD so this is good to hear.

Dude #320
"Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid".
DONK!

[justinb138 0]

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As for the cables, yes you will need some good cables.

DON'T spend the $100 on the monster HDMI cable from the store.

DO order one from monoprice.com for $8.

Is the $100 cable better? Sure. $92 worth of better? No.

[PLFXpert 0]

I am also in the market and go by what picture looks most pretty.

I like Sony.

The picture is prettier and I can always buy extra stuff to make it sound better.

To answer your question:

LCD!

1080/720 does not matter.

Just my silly opinion.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

[shah269 0]

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As for the cables, yes you will need some good cables.

DON'T spend the $100 on the monster HDMI cable from the store.

DO order one from monoprice.com for $8.

Is the $100 cable better? Sure. $92 worth of better? No.

I meant good "CABLE" as in CABLE TV!
Some times you may have to pay more to get all digital and thus the higher resolution data.
Right now, 90% of all data hitting your TV are 720P but there is room for them to go up to 1080P IF the video was shot in 1080P.
I went 1080P because my 360's output is 1080P

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

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[LaRusic 0]

id go with a sharp aquos, imho best tvs on the market.

I personally like plasmas, the blacks are actually black as opposed to grey


anyone have a look at the new OLED tvs, very sick, must be nice to grow the led lol

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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Odds are your cable company does not offer all it's Chanels in HD (1080P).

First, no channels are in 1080p.
All the major networks are using either 1080i or 720p.

But nearly every film can be displayed at 1080p given a 1080i source.

Nearly all movies shot on film start out life at 24 full frames per second and get converted to 60Hz interlaced video by a 3:2 pull-down process three fields from a frame, then 2 fields, etc.

Video frame 1, field 1: film frame 1
Video frame 1, field 2: film frame 1
Video frame 2, field 1: film frame 1
Video frame 2, field 2: film frame 2
Video frame 3, field 1: film frame 2
Video frame 3, field 2: film frame 3
Video frame 4, field 1: film frame 3
Video frame 4, field 2: film frame 3
Video frame 5, field 1: film frame 4
Video frame 6, field 2: film frame 4

The digital video streams are flagged as to where the original content came from, and when that's incorrect cadence recognition can be used to figure it out. Then the software does an inverse of the telecine process producing:

Video frame 1 : film frame 1
Video frame 2 : film frame 1
Video frame 3 : film frame 1
Video frame 4 : film frame 2
Video frame 5 : film frame 2

Voila! 60 frame per second progressive.

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Second, slimy cable operators are compressing the hell out of channels that started out as HD:

And Bluray ships at a higher bit rate than ATSC over-the-air HD.

[ryoder 1,590]

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Right now, 90% of all data hitting your TV are 720P...

Huh?

720p:
- A&E
- ABC
- ESPN
- ESPN2
- FOX
- FX
- History

1080i:
- CBS
- CW
- Cartoon Network
- Comedy Central
- Discovery
- HBO
- MyNetworkTV
- NBC
- Showtime
- Spike
- Starz
- Syfy
- TBS
- TLC
- Travel
- USA
- Versus
- WGN

And the fact is 720p is a higher data rate, and gives a better picture for moving subjects.
1080i is superior if the picture is mostly stationary.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,590]

Oh, yeah;
You used to work with this stuff when you were at that small company in Boulder, right?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[xtravrtsoul 0]

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id go with a sharp aquos, imho best tvs on the market.

I personally like plasmas, the blacks are actually black as opposed to grey


anyone have a look at the new OLED tvs, very sick, must be nice to grow the led lol

Oh yeah love the picture quality of the Sharp as well.

You create life, life does not create you.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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Oh, yeah;
You used to work with this stuff when you were at that small company in Boulder, right?

Right! System software on disk based digital video recorders for the post production and broadcast markets at Pluto Technologies through the Avid acquisition, leaving a couple months before they closed the office as I predicted.

On the hobby side starting in 2002 at home I ran a surplus 9" CRT projector which would resolve 1080p, although 1440x960 @ 71.928 Hz or 1440x720 with a bit of vertical astigmatism worked out best for DVD with no micro-judder or scaling artifacts.

CRT projectors will scan any resolution which fits within their frequency limits, have no gaps between pixels horizontally, and can be adjusted for no vertical gaps so you don't have a screen door effect as on digital projectors. On the more interesting models beam shape can be altered electro magnetically so the film-look holds at different resolutions.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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well the room it's going in is 14 feet wide so i think 60inches would maybe be a bit overkill.

With the viewing distances that go with an average 14' wide room, 60 inches is likely to be way too small. You need to start thinking in terms of small movie screens instead of "big" TVs.

The big deal is a sense of immersion which you loose when you get too far away. The THX guys want to see a 36 degree subtended field of vision in the farthest seat from the screen which translates into seating at 1.52 screen widths.

A 60" screen is about 52" wide which makes it sub-optimal for viewing distances beyond 6' and 6".

Human visual acuity is about one minute of angle which means you can't visually resolve 1920x1080 HD when you move beyond a 32 degree subtended field of vision which happens at 1.8 screen widths.

That gets you out to 7' 10".

You can see sharpness from computer graphics and pickup scaling artifacts; although for film/video the resolution isn't buying you anything when you get living room distances away from the screen and good scaling is a better fix for the artifacts than higher resolution.

With kids in college I'd buy the biggest screen which fits the budget even at 720 (probably 768) lines; so there's a Samsung 5054 in my bedroom.

As a bachelor I opted for a 9" CRT projector (225 pounds, 40" long) on an 87x49" (100" diagonal) 1.3 gain Stewart screen with seating at 11'; moving up to around 9' for nice DVD scope transfers because those were looking a bit small compared to movie theater expectations and decent DVD transfers didn't get too soft until closer.

With the kids out of the metaphorical nest and/or stock options having real value, the next main setup will be a constant height scope screen around 3 heights out (for example 11' implies a 103 x 44" screen, or the 2.35:1 image size you'd get on a 118" HDTV) with LCOS front projection, a grey (Stewart Firehawk does a great job rejecting low levels of ambient light) or black screen, and decent blinds (the vertical blinds I stuck in our rental apartment would be fine).

[shah269 0]

Great we have now reached terminal HiFi Geekdom!
Great! Now they are going to argue about speakers next!
And then there will an all out knife fight over what is better reel to reel or vinyl.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[Harmless 0]

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Great we have now reached terminal HiFi Geekdom!
Great! Now they are going to argue about speakers next!
And then there will an all out knife fight over what is better reel to reel or vinyl.

The only *real* argument over speakers is "how much can you afford to spend"

As for your point about Cable TV earlier... I went HD for games and movies, I couldn't care less is House was in HD (in fact I only buy basic cable for the internet and stream my tv shows from the computer through HDMI to the tv)

"Damn you Gravity, you win again"

[normiss 895]

NHT gear in there?

[ryoder 1,590]

I was just watching Baraka last night.
Check out the section titled " 2008 Remastered Release":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baraka_%28film%29#2008_Remastered_Release

I have a 1080p monitor, but only a DVD player.
I think this film could really put a Blu-ray player to good use.

BTW: This film is much like Koyaanisqatsi, so people who need dialog and storyline will be disappointed.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,590]

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As a bachelor I opted for a 9" CRT projector (225 pounds, 40" long)...

OK, I'm curious;
That is a rented apt, correct?
And you appear to be sitting directly under a 225 lb object.
What is holding it up?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[DavidB 0]

I'm very happy with both the Pioneer QX-949 & SX-1010 through an earlier set of JBL-88's. The 1010 & the Dual 1209 turntable are out getting tuned up & a couple transistors replaced in the 1010 (evidently they're a little difficult to find now days).

Vinyl is, IMHO best. Tape depends on the player & tape quality. The Nokamichi cassette we have sounds as good as any reel to reel I've ever heard, & the higher quality the tape, the better the sound. Not that my ears are THAT good, but I prefer analog sound & amplification. Digital seems a little too "clipped" & "abrupt" to me.

BTW, in the office with me now is a Pioneer SX-727 & a small pair of Pioneer 6" bookshelf 2-ways playing XM-74 (blues) in the background. Even though this amp is rated at a modest 20 watts/channel, it must earn that rating with 0.000% distortion because it will fill this space with wonderfully rich, loud & clear sound (I suspect if this was rated with today's standards instead of 40 year old standards, it would be somewhere around 50-75 watts/channel, which boggles the mind when one considers the SX-1010 is rated @ 110 watts/channel).

The QX-949, although not ideal, will be used for TV audio (4.0).

When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

[normiss 895]

You're making me miss my old Nakamichi Dragon.

[shah269 0]

Maybe it's all my time around loud guns or all the time I spent as young boy looking at "questionable" periodicals.
But can you guys actually hear and see the difference on some of these super high end systems?

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[normiss 895]

most definitely!

[SkyBastard 0]

what?

Dude #320
"Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid".
DONK!

[normiss 895]

huh?

[SkyBastard 0]

i was pretending to be deaf. it was fucking funny.

Dude #320
"Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid".
DONK!

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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As a bachelor I opted for a 9" CRT projector (225 pounds, 40" long)...

OK, I'm curious;
That is a rented apt, correct?

I owned the Boulder town house.

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And you appear to be sitting directly under a 225 lb object.

Correct.

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What is holding it up?

Way more than enough. Sanity checked against Machinery's Handbook and Tyco's product specs at the time.

The 2x10 joists at the front and back have 1 5/8" square 12 gauge uni-strut and center joist thinner 12 gauge uni-strut attached along their center lines with half a dozen 3/8" lag screws. Working load is 200-300 pounds per inch of thread engagement after reduction by the American Wood Council's 1.6 safety factor; so each bolt will hold over 400 pounds (a 3" lag screw has 2" of thread, and I might have used longer). A piece of 3/8" all-thread (better than 5000 pounds) at the end of each unistrut supports lengthwise 1 5/8" square unistrut. The projector hung from heavy C-section steel across that.