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Hey if some one didn't like my theory they should perhaps post a counter theory. That way we can have a conversation. Till then the 70/30 theory stands.



I'd like to throw in my support and subscribe to your newsletter

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actually, the more I read Shah's stuff, the more I understand his style and the more I appreciate it for what it's intended to be, not how it's mis-interpreted

wry/cynical humor and directness is a very strong tool and the basis for it is mostly self deprecation


rehmwa, not to change subjects here so please excuse me, I'm Persian but grew up in Wonder Bread America. It wasn't until I finally met other Persians did I realize why some Americans weren't getting my jokes. Persian humor is based on self deprecation and over exaggeration. And it's all about having a good time.

Now back on topic, yeah this 70/30 thing sucks! To be an outcast in ones own gender due to ones sexual desires? Reminds me of the bad old days when people were ridiculed and ostracized for being homosexual or lesbian.

So who knows maybe online dating will provide the vial of anonymity that some women crave so as to be sexual?
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It's not your theory, it's the ridiculous, and thus demeaning, generalizations you have about women.


That's exactly what the girls who were screaming at me in class said as well. They accounted for about 70% of the class.

And yes, it is my theory, and the data did back it up, I did not find it demeaning rather a reflection of the data but due to the small test sample I would agree with you that it it is a generalization which needs to be refined with further review.

Do you care to provide a counter theory?
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Shah's posts are for amusement only. Not to be taken seriously. Comedy is often an exageration of the truth but not always.

Getting upset by his words means that one is taking his words as truth instead of an "amusement only" observation.

Don't kill the messenger...or the jester.


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If they were anywhere near humorous, we might agree.
They aren't.
It's not amusement when it offends the ladies, it's rude.


Now you have peaked my interest. What part of my post was rude?
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If they were anywhere near humorous, we might agree.
They aren't.
It's not amusement when it offends the ladies, it's rude.



I've found that the truth often offends more than humor ... just something to think about. ;)
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Dude I'm not sticking up for you because i think you are funny. Sometimes you are. Sometimes you are not.

I know the feeling. You never know what joke is going to kill em or which will backfire. It's the risk of comedy. It is an art to be funny and not offend. But if we all hold back, or repress the will to make others laugh, then we're fucked and we may as well push the button now Bro.

Anyway, keep being you. Maybe someday they'll get it. fuck em if they don't. I like to think you already know this because you don't let it bother you.

Now get back to work everyone. Today is the first day of the rest of our lives. Don't waste it here.:P



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Well said Shah. Well said! (Applause, crescendoing)


Thank you thank you, you were too kind!
Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waiters and waitresses.
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Obviously I can't speak for all of woman-kind.. But Shah - you are certainly NOT representative of all man-kind either...



Actually, Shah is very representative of all man-kind.
The difference is the rest of us think the same thing but won't say it for fear of never getting laid again.[:/]
(Well, except for that cankle-fixation.:S)
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Actually, Shah is very representative of all man-kind.
The difference is the rest of us think the same thing but won't say it for fear of never getting laid again.[:/]
(Well, except for that cankle-fixation.:S)


From my experience and this is just my experience, women prefer you to speak your mind then to pretend to be something else. So why hide who you are? Say what is on your mind.

Now this may not be the easiest thing to do in person and may be infinitely easier to say on an online dating sight but honesty is best policy.
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Shah.. I sincerely doubt that you understand any aspect of being a woman - despite your 20-question "study" on our sexual "needs".. 70/30?? That is total crap. The consequences of a woman being promiscuous are NOT synonymous with what happens in high-school.. I'm talking about *women* here.. It's subtle, and it's not from the "non-sexual" women either - it's from society at large.

Just consider how much a woman loses credibility if she wears the "wrong" clothes at work.. Would a man not be taken seriously if he undid one button too many on his dress-shirt? Doubtful.

The pressure women feel to be "good girls" doesn't come from your 70% cock-blockers.. Perhaps the reason your numbers came out so disproportionately high is because you were asking about sex from a male perspective.. Women want sex just as much as men - we're just not interested in getting it the same way.. We crave emotional connections as opposed to just a "fuck".. Maybe you need to expand your definition of sex to include more sensuality and you'd find women are very sexual creatures.. But hey.. What do I know?!

I appreciate that you may be injecting some humour in your posts.. But seriously.. If everyone is screaming at you - do you think that maybe it's what you're *saying* that is outrageous and not the fact that everyone else won't accept your version of the "truth"??
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It was as I recall 30 odd questions and no they weren't all about sex. That's not how those survey classes work. I recall, it was well over 8 years ago, that about 10 of those questions regarded wanting to knock boots the rest were just filler to clear your head.

Hey you may be right the questions could have been written from the male point of view and I accept that. No theory is ever with out bias. Though the girls I spoke with after concurred with me.

But, ask your self this, regarding that one button, do you think we guys give a rats ass or start calling you names behind your back or start rumors because you have one extra button undone? I know I don't nor any my friends would. We may say, "she looks good today" but that's about where it ends. None of my friends have ever called a woman a slut or any other derogatory term due to her clothing choice. But we could be different. Do I know "women" who would? Countless! Some with PHD's!

Also remember, my questions asked having sex with husband, boy friend or man of their dreams. You would assume your average girl has some sort of mental connection with her husband or her boyfriend.

You know, no wonder people are giving up on the good old fashioned way of meeting people via social engagements and social events. Every one is afraid some one will spread rumors about them or criticize them behind their back. The more we grow up the more child like we become.
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about 10 of those questions regarded wanting to knock boots



I rest my case.. Ever heard of foreplay?? Sex to you might equal penis + vagina.. Don't get me wrong - that is a very good combination.. But I think perhaps you need to expand your definition of "sexual needs"... Women are generally much more "touchy-feely" than men.. If you ask questions only about being poked, than maybe that's why the percentages are so off - you're probably not including a whole range of sexual wants and needs..
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Nat as I recall, and again it was 8 years ago, I did not specifically call out intercourse since the test was to be orientation neutral. As I recall I did my best to utilize words that did not imply the old in and out. I recall utilizing the words "becoming intimate with..." and "bonding with on a physical level..."

It's cool no worries. Hope you have fun on the online dating. One of my good friends who has been on one of the sights for about 6 months has found a really nice girl.
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I don't think the difference is a physiological one.. I think women are socialised to be "good girls".. You probably have no idea how much having a "slutty" reputation can affect a woman..



I remember a poll in the women's forums once, asking when you(women responders only) experienced their first orgasm. I think the average was something like early to mid 20's. One girl posted she had her first in her early teens and some of the other women in the thread said they didn't believe her.

Guys have their first orgasm, what, age 12-16 maybe, or whenever the first time they masturbate is?

Dunno if that's a physical difference or mental one.

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This may sound.. dumb.. probably shouldnt ask it in a skydiver forum.. but what the heck. :|

Is the a difference in an orgasm and busting a nut?

The reason I ask, is cause alot of people say an orgasm feels really good through out the body.. but i have a freind that told me.. busting a nut is just that.. like it doesnt feel good throughout his body.. He focuses on it, knows when its about to "blow" and then when its done.. cleans up and goes on like that didnt happen. to him, its like spitting. He told me sometimes, the olny reason he does it is to "clean out the pipes".. other than that. it does nothing for him..

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Is the a difference in an orgasm and busting a nut?

Yes. I would have to agree with your friend that an orgasm for me is very different than busting a "nut".

It's more intense and more of a total body experience.
They were very rare for me, I was a very tense dude, but thanks to Yoga and meditation....oh yeah it's fun!

It also helps if your partner is goood. Some girls just lay there like dead fish.....while some...oh buddy some....wow! Hence my post in the Brazilian thread.
Some girls just know what they are doing and it's religious! You'll be screaming your own name!
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The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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