Bonanza Bozos . . .

[NickDG 23]

This is as close as gets . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nm8pNgqBAk

NickD

[quade 4]

One of my favorite euphemisms is "inadvertent IMC".

During the daytime? Really?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[ryoder 1,590]

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This is as close as gets . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nm8pNgqBAk

NickD

When I worked at General Dynamics I saw a HUD video that was worse;
A group of F-16's was playing war games against a group of F-15's.
The F-16's were hugging the back sides of hills to hide.
One of the F-16's inadvertently went through trees.
Damage:
- Leading edges of both wings.
- The entire lip (machined aluminum) that surrounds the air inlet was gone.
- The two stabilizing fins under the tail were chewed up.
- Engine temporarily "ran rough" according to pilot.

His wing man escorted him home and he landed it w/o problem.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[cocheese 0]

MMMMMM L-39 flash backs.

Damn, it takes an L-39 to get a woman off my mind.

Thanks for the medicine.

[jimmytavino 16]

First..... what does IMC stand for...?

and

second...

How does a Bonanza, carrying 4 people fly fast enough to pace that jet??
or how does that jet, fly SLooooW enough to pace the bonanza ?

jt

[wayneflorida 0]

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First..... what does IMC stand for...?

and

second...

How does a Bonanza, carrying 4 people fly fast enough to pace that jet??
or how does that jet, fly SLooooW enough to pace the bonanza ?

jt

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IMC= Instrument Meteorlogical conditions
having to fly by instruments

I found stall speed of L39 in one article listed 95-105
knots. With a bananza cruise airspeed of about 170
knots the L39 can slow down enough so they can fly together.

Definition of stupiity. Posting evidence on youtube.

[jonstark 8]

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This is as close as gets . . .

NickD

'Em boys just about heard the beginning of a real loud bang. The kind that is made at the start of a deep crater.

jon

[davelepka 4]

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This is as close as gets . . .

I disagree. I don't think that was close to CFIT (controllled flight into terrain), that actually was CFIT.

Just becuase they didn't crash as a result, contact was made and I think this qualifies, and should be reported as, CFIT.

It was about as close as you can get to dying in a plane for sure. If you think about it, if they were still pacing that jet, or just trying to get to the desert to meet up with the jet, they had to be doing 150 or 160 knots.

One more thing to think about, where was that jet when the pilot made the avoidance manuver? Imagine that one, barely miss the mountain, only to collide with the L-39.

What a jackass. I wonder if the pilot has his IFR ticket. I almost hope he didn't so he would have an excuse for this. If he did have his ticket, there's no excuse, and he should lose it for sure.

[skyrider 0]

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This is as close as gets . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nm8pNgqBAk

NickD

HOLY SHIT

[JohnMitchell 16]

Yikes! That was a stupid move. They got very lucky.

I had a guy call me once, "VFR, lost in the clouds." I squawked him up and radar identified him, less than a minute before he would have flown his Skyhawk into the side of Mt. St. Helens. It was the mother of all low altitude alerts. He actually was flying up a ravine, so I lost radio and radar contact with him. I figured he had crashed, only to see him reappear about a minute later, climbing for all he was worth. Took about 40 minutes of battling weather, icing, vertigo, inop. instruments, but we got him on the ground safely.

Just the other day had a VFR student pilot pressing on into crappy weather flying from the coast to Eugene, OR. Only after I got across to him that he was flying straight at Mary's Peak did he decide to turn around, land, and wait for better weather. Oh well, job security for me.

[ryoder 1,590]

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I had a guy call me once, "VFR, lost in the clouds." I squawked him up and radar identified him, less than a minute before he would have flown his Skyhawk into the side of Mt. St. Helens. It was the mother of all low altitude alerts. He actually was flying up a ravine, so I lost radio and radar contact with him. I figured he had crashed, only to see him reappear about a minute later, climbing for all he was worth. Took about 40 minutes of battling weather, icing, vertigo, inop. instruments, but we got him on the ground safely.

Did you give him the name of a good flight school where he could work on getting an IFR ticket?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[jimmytavino 16]

thanks...

so IMC is IFR.....??


I knew what IFR was...

is there any difference...?

so if you have one plane, flyin' as fast as it can , so it can pace another plane that's flying as SLOW as it can..???

shouldn't That tell ya something???


talk about distraction,,,,

I read about a concept in "Aviation Safety Magazine", a long time ago,,, called
"in - the - cockpit syndrome",, wherein a pilot gets so absorbed in studying and reading his/ her instruments,, that they fail to notice things OUTside the plane,,,,,,
such as, an impending contact with the Planet!!!!! or another equally unobservant AIRPlane!!!!...

yikes... i think i'll just continue to be wearing a Parachute system,,, ANYtime i get IN a plane !!!

altitude is your friend


jt

[usedtajump 1]

Saw that on an aviation archeology site I frequent called Wreckchasing.com but equally as chilling as that one is this one I found there:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=316_1249535759

Its about six minutes long and somewhat inferior quality in places but stick with it. Read the aftermath report as to the condition of the video tape,

The older I get the less I care who I piss off.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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thanks...

so IMC is IFR.....??


I knew what IFR was...

is there any difference...?

IMC is what kind of weather you're in.
IFR is how you fly in it legally and safely.

[quade 4]

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so IMC is IFR.....??
I knew what IFR was...

IMC is the shitty weather and clouds.
IFR are the rules you use to fly in them.

A lot of pilots use the terms interchangeably, but they are different.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[jimmytavino 16]

excellent...

thanks quade, and JohnMitchell...

i try to learn SOMEthing new,, every day...


jt

[futuredivot 0]

At least I don't think that the N number is on the video. I did like the youtube comment about Bonanzas being population control for Dr.s and lawyers.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[BillyVance 35]

I rode with my brother in his Bonanza when he and dad came over to San Jose, CA from his home airport in Watsonville to pick me up from my commercial flight. On the way back to Watsonville going over the mountain range, it was solid cloud cover from the range to the coast so we couldn't go through the clouds. Made a little detour to the low pass through the mountains and followed the winding road curving left, right, left, right and then under the cloud cover. There wasn't a lot of room through the gap, but at least we could see where we were going. That was scud running. An interesting ride.

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