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or possibly hawaii, but i doubt other pac 10 teams would want that with such a long flight out there.

another idea (and more likely as well) is for bsu to go to mountain west. if utah, byu, and tcu keep building goo programs, you could have a very competetive conference there too.

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I'd be curious to see how a playoff system would work. Would you seed the playoffs before or after the various conference championships? Would teams start petitioning their conferences to reduce conference games, so they could play weaker opponents, win more games, and have a better shot at the playoffs?

Everyone plays 11 games, then seed after conference championships, and use the same BCS strength-of-schedule criteria. Top 16 teams playoff.......that would ensure the BSUs and Utahs get in too. Any team could get hot, just like past NCAA basketball champs......did anyone REALLY think NC State would beat Houston ?


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we were doing good at keeping this conversation within the limits of my knowledge, but now you've gone and surpassed them. what is this "bcs formula"? i always thought that bcs conferences were bcs conferences because that's the way it was decreed in the beginning and nothing will change that. i was not aware of criteria that qualify a particular conference as "bcs" or "non-BCS". please explain.

The BCS determines which conferences get automatic BCS bids (i.e. the "BCS conferences") using a mathematical formula. I believe it's major components are the average ranking of the conferences teams, the ranking of the top team in the conference, and the number of teams in the top 25. I think they "re-select" (although to date it's never changed) the BCS conferences every 3 years or so. Since the three criteria are weighted about equally, USC (perennially ranked very highly) really pulls up the PAC-10 numbers. I read all this (and the calculation with the MW surpassing the PAC-9 (no USC) in an article on either ESPN.com or SI.com, I can't recall which, about a year ago. Let me see if I can find it.

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i would seed after conference championships using whatever formulas that are used currently to determine bcs ranking but with one tweak, overall win/loss record trumps the ranking.

In that case, it would work to the advantage of the conferences who don't hold conference championships (because their two top teams would make it into the playoffs, where a loss in the SEC or Big-10 championship game could push a very good team down far enough to knock them out of the playoffs).

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i suppose teams could petition for easier schedules, but a minimun number of conference games could be set in order for a team to be eligable.

I'm sure that would raise protests from the mid-grade schools in hard conferences (because they'd virtually never make the playoffs, although if they were in an easier conference they might).

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The BCS determines which conferences get automatic BCS bids (i.e. the "BCS conferences") using a mathematical formula.

Found this description on the BCS web site:

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The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern Conferences will have annual automatic qualification for a BCS game through the 2013 regular season, based on mathematical standards of performance during the 2004-2007 regular seasons.

The 2008-2011 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

If the BCS continues under the same or similar format, conferences will be evaluated on their performances during the 2010-2013 regular seasons to determine which conferences will have automatic qualification for the bowls that will conclude the 2014-2017 regular seasons.

The evaluation data includes the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings each year, (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS standings each year.

It's at the bottom of this page.

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Whoa! Man, I sure hope that 12-10 squeaker over Tennessee was Alabama's one "down to the last play" game of the year. Last year it was the OT win at LSU.

Cody is a mountain of a man. Blocked two FGs in the 4th quarter including the one on the final play of the game.

I am not happy with the way Alabama played. The offense has gone south most of the last 3 games, but I will say that those three games were against the SEC's 3rd, 4th and 5th best defenses.

Sure am glad to get to the open week 8-0. Better not play like this against LSU two weeks from now or they will beat us.

Texas rolls over Missouri, and Florida has some trouble at Miss. State with the Dawgs scoring both of their TDs on interception returns in a 29-19 game.

I'd put Texas #1, Florida #2 and Alabama #3 after today.

Oh, and it sucks to be an Auburn fan right about now, don't it?

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miss. state should have won that game. aside from the blown call, they made the worst decision when they went for it on 4th and 1 early in the fourth in florida territory and only down by 3. their defense was doing great and they should have punted. also, starting at with around 6:30 left, there was absolutely terrible clock management.

what i find very interesting is the espnu pan poll.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

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ESPNU? First time I've seen that one. I think I'm content to leave Alabama at #2 for the time being. They had better get their offense back in gear. The defense spent way too much time on the field the past two games. One of the guys said they were gassed after the SC game. I'm sure it's worse after the TN game.

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i don't get the bcs rankings. take the top 2 onq loss teams for example. lsu is ranked number nine with their only loss being to the number one team while usc is number five with one loss to an unranked team. wtf? also iowa at number four? just like bsu and tcu, they only have one victory over a ranked team, but unlike those two, they don't have any impressive wins.

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Not only is it based on W & L's its also based on strength of schedule.
Start here, or look up "how the BCS works"
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question535.htm

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What Dave said, but I'll add that USC lost earlier in the season than LSU did. USC was down about where LSU is now after their loss. Also, LSU has not looked very impressive over the first half of the season, ranking at the bottom of the SEC in offense. They seem to be coming together now, but we'll see. They ripped an Auburn team that has been exposed the last three weeks and Auburn's defense is very thin talent-wise as well as injuries to some starters. They are not going to score 31 points on Alabama, I can tell you that much.

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