mdrejhon 8 #1 October 29, 2009 I always run into people who say X is better than Y, or vice versa. I'm a multi-platform mobile software developer. I actually have both devices. iPhones with music, media, game -- especially 3D ones like Need For Speed, better Safari browser, more well-designed OS, more refined device design. It is amazing how great a job Apple did with their design. Apple devices have been very fun and entertaining to play with. That said, there's enough room on the planet for both Apple and BlackBerry. Newer BlackBerries (made by RIM) have a more integrated Inbox/IM/fax/msn/aim/yahoo/icq/google/facebook/myspace/SMS/googlephone mail box. (In newer BlackBerries, the Inbox system on a BlackBerry allows the most 'integrated' mailbox if the user enables the integration features). There's multitasking on a BlackBerry since 2001, using the Alt+Tab keypress (and brand new BlackBerries hitting the market or upgraded to BB OS 5.0, allows you to just hold the menu key to switch apps much quicker). iPhones unfortunately don't yet allow you to multitask (mostly an arbitrary limitation by Apple). There's the physical keyboard, support for external Bluetooth keyboard, more open platform not banning any type of app at all, 4 brands of web browsers such as Opera Mini and Bolt Browser while Apple only allows their in-house Safari, etc. People no longer should judge BlackBerries based on 2-year-old boring Pearl and Curve's -- the latest models have considerably advanced since, after Apple woke RIM up. (There's more advanced evolution between a Curve 8300 and a Bold 9700, than an iPhone original versus iPhone 3GS). Today, I can email unedited file attachments such as video files, and run a RIM-sanctioned File Explorer app on the BlackBerry memory card -- a REAL filesystem that's permitted by RIM -- something I don't see on Apple devices that aren't jailbroken! It is my opinion BlackBerry is far behind Apple in many areas, yet so far ahead of Apple in other areas. The next few years will be interesting to see the smartphone titans duke it out, with Apple "opening up" a bit more, and RIM improving their devices as quickly as they can to prevent being knocked out of the market. RIM is crap at many things, like 3D graphics (at the moment), while in other areas, video quality is now identical for many video formats, etc. But supposedly to be changed, there are rumors of later 3D graphics being added to BlackBerry in the next 2 years, and also Adobe has announced Flash coming to BlackBerry (not iPhone!) next year. (Modern BlackBerry units with Operating System version 5.0 perform roughly 10x faster in app benchmark programs compared to BlackBerry Curves, which are now considered old BlackBerry models that some people love to hate...) Both are excellent devices, with very different advantages. I am surprised though, at many iPhone users not realizing how quicky RIM is reacting to 'adequately keep up'... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #2 October 29, 2009 iPhone's visual voicemail is great, I don't know BB's counterpart. Jailbreaking an iPhone does give you more options in customizing, and some applications that are not available through apple or att, such as openssh, and I really enjoy the browser. At&t have been very disappointing when it comes to tethering. 30 dollars a month for unlimited data, and they want to limit data transfer by locking out tethering ability. More of a provider issue than hardware, but since the iPhone is currently solely sold through At&t, something to think about. Business apps are much better now than when the iphone first launched. Is it better? Nah, just different. Depends upon your application.What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #3 October 29, 2009 I've been tethering using my BlackBerry (over Bluetooth) to my laptop, BlackBerries had this feature since 2005. I'm now glad iPhone enabled this feature, but disappointed AT&T still locks it even though the AT&T BlackBerry lets you tether... I can install 3 different SSH apps on my BlackBerry now (none available through App World, but RIM lets you install BlackBerry apps downloaded elsewhere from a website). The most popular BlackBerry SSH is midpssh... Free, while the high-priced Rove Mobile version (for corporations) is superior, and there's another one as part of another remote desktop app... In Canada, iPhone is now being made available on November 5th on three different cellphone companies (Bell Canada, Telus, and Rogers). Bell and Telus are conveting from CDMA to 3G HSPA+ (21Mbps!) on time for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #4 October 29, 2009 There is a couple of hacks out there, even for the latest firmware update, which attempted to lockout tethering. I actually came across your tutorial for tethering a blackberry a few months ago. No wifi at the dz, and one of the instructors wives was bored to death. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #5 October 29, 2009 Quote There is a couple of hacks out there, even for the latest firmware update, which attempted to lockout tethering. I actually came across your tutorial for tethering a blackberry a few months ago. No wifi at the dz, and one of the instructors wives was bored to death. Cool. Yeah, earlier, BlackBerry tethering required lots of steps. Now in some beta versions of Desktop 5.0, it's more of a one-click operation as a menu item as RIM is gradually bringing this feature into parity of ease-of-use... (The 'easy' tether is not available on all carriers) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmless 0 #6 October 29, 2009 You completely left out Android and WM..."Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 October 30, 2009 QuoteYou completely left out Android and WM... Android is looking really sweet.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #8 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteYou completely left out Android and WM... Android is looking really sweet. And WM not so sweet.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #9 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou completely left out Android and WM... Android is looking really sweet. And WM not so sweet.I agree about Android and WM. That said, I think Microsoft is up to something major for Windows Mobile 7 with 3D transitions similiar to Android and iPhone. The Storm actually has 3D hardware in it, but it's not activated by BlackBerry yet -- hopefully OpenGL in some OS5 revision in the next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #10 October 30, 2009 I don't really know enough to know what limitations are manufacturer based vs. carrier based, but the fact that the iphone does not recognize Flash and only recently began allowing picture text messages is inexcusable to me. While I'm extremely happy to have the MMS messaging now (which I believe was limited by AT&T) I'm still in disbelief that it wasn't included from the beginning. Freakin $14 "Go Phones" from walmart can send MMS messages for cryin' out loud! In a world where so much of what is on the web is flash based someone needs a stick shoved up their butt until the no flash fiasco is fixed!Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbag 0 #11 October 30, 2009 i hate my BB, 3 curve's in 1 week...replacing with something soon.IHYD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #12 October 30, 2009 I'm thinking of getting the Storm 2 this weekend, but am pondering the significance of wifi on the phone. thoughts?Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
