kallend 2,106 #1 October 29, 2009 I have three PCs (A, B and C) all running Win XP. A is connected directly to a wireless router which connects to a DSL line. A also has direct connections to 2 printers. B and C are wireless. I set them all up the same way using the network setup wizard, with file and printer sharing enabled. A, B and C all can access the internet just fine. A "sees" B and C, and can access the shared files. B "sees" A but can't access its shared files ("Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer"). B can, however, access the printers on A. B does not see C at all (it doesn't show up in Network Places). C sees A but can't access its files OR its printers (Same "logon failure..." message.) C sees B and can access its shared files. ?????????? CLearly I'm missing some important piece of information.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdshit 0 #2 October 29, 2009 In the control panel on A, go to user accounts. Make sure that the user account called "guest" is enabled. You can enable/disable it by double clicking the username. On the PC where you are sharing files (A I think), go to the share where the files are. Right click the folder. Click properties Click Security Tab Add a new user "guest" to the box. Make sure "guest" has "full control" if you want to be able to delete files remotely, or if you just need read access then just check the "list files and folders box" and the "read" box. Click OK. Click "Apply". Click ok. Click ok. The user that is trying to access the files is your local user account. If that fails (which it will, cause the other pc has no idea who you are) then the computer will use a built in guest account called "guest". If guest is disabled or if guest has no read rights to the share then you will get that error message. All windows XP pcs have the guest account, so if you enable guest and add it to the file share, then you will be able to log onto the file sharing pc from a different pc. Let me know if you need more help. P.S. the same is true for the printers. Right click, properties, security, add the guest user, give it full control, click ok, click ok. etc. ~ Network Geek ~ The screen shots are Vista Supreme/SuperDuper but they look pretty much the same in XP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #3 October 29, 2009 Thanks, I'll try it in the morning and report back.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #4 October 29, 2009 There is no "security" tab to click on when I open "properties", either for the file folder or the printers. Both are set up for sharing and allowing users to change files remotely.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #5 November 1, 2009 Update: A and C are now in full communication with each other. B stubbornly refuses to admit the existence of A and C, they don't show up on its "Network Places". B shows up on "Network places" of A and C yet won't give permission for them to access shared files or folders. A, B and C all access the internet just fine. As far as I can tell all three have been set up the same.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 November 1, 2009 QuoteB stubbornly refuses to admit the existence of A and C, The way I heard it, B refuses to acknowledge the right of A and C to exist. So there's your problem: ethnic strife. Better deal with it now before they start digging tunnels and lobbing missiles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #7 November 1, 2009 QuoteQuoteB stubbornly refuses to admit the existence of A and C, The way I heard it, B refuses to acknowledge the right of A and C to exist. So there's your problem: ethnic strife. Better deal with it now before they start digging tunnels and lobbing missiles. Well this ethnic group is wierder than most, because B even refuses to access its own shared files through "Network Places", although it works fine using explorer or "My Computer".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 November 2, 2009 I might as well ask my geek question in this thread. I have two computers now. A HP Pavilion on Windows 7 that I got earlier this summer, and a generic computer that I put together 5 years ago which is running Windows XP. There are files on the older computer that I sometimes need to access, but have to turn off the new computer since I have both computers plugged into one monitor, and I can only view one desktop at a time. If I can access the old computer's C drive from the new computer, that would be great. Both computers are hooked up to the router. What can I do?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #9 November 2, 2009 Have you tried sharing drive C on the old PC? When viewing the old desktop, right click on C, go to properties - sharing.A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 November 2, 2009 Quote Have you tried sharing drive C on the old PC? When viewing the old desktop, right click on C, go to properties - sharing. I took a look in there, and have absolutely no idea of what I'm doing. If there's a book called "Idiot's guide to home networks" I need it. I am a total noob at this kind of thing. Probably best to find a friend who knows this stuff to come show me in person."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #11 November 2, 2009 Step 1 - rightclick on C and got to Properties Step 2 - click the Sharing tab 2nd from left Step 3 - click on the warning Step 4 - tick network sharing and allow users to change files Step 5 - click OK and allow the folder permissions to be set. Hope this helps A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 November 2, 2009 What he said!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 November 2, 2009 Thanks. I did all that on the old computer and it did what you said it'd do. Now how do I get the new computer to "see" it?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 November 2, 2009 QuoteThanks. I did all that on the old computer and it did what you said it'd do. Now how do I get the new computer to "see" it? I figure this is where I should be seeing the "C" drive from the old computer.... but it's not visible. There should be two computers, right?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 November 2, 2009 Going to bed now. No hurry. Thanks "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #16 November 2, 2009 On the XP computer: Start - connect to - show all connections Set up a home or small office network next next tick connects through a residential gatewayy and click nextA VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #17 November 2, 2009 name you computer and click next name the network - remember you have to use the same name when connecting to the network from the other computer! Turn on file sharing next tick just finish the wizard, I don't need to run the wizard on other computersA VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #18 November 2, 2009 Click finish. The XP pc should be good to go. On the new PC (I run Vista, but should be similar to 7): Go to control panel -> network settings Click on Connect to network & follow the prompts - it'll be similar to what you've just done. Gotta get to work now, but you should be able to get everything set up without too many hassles A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #19 November 2, 2009 Just saw your screenshot - after running the wizard on the XP pc and then rebooting both computers, you should be A-OK! Edit: Just be sure to check the network name used on your '7' A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 November 2, 2009 Windows 7 seems to have a different set-up or look than Vista. Here's what I have, and I don't know what to do. I tried the Homegroup option, thinking it would work, but realized during the setup that all computers have to be on Windows 7."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #21 November 2, 2009 See attachment - after you click on connect to a network, it should automatically detect you current network and following the steps from there should be easy.A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #22 November 2, 2009 If you're still struggling, have a look here: http://forums.techarena.in/networking-security/1105626.htm I don't have access to a Windows 7 machine, so it's a bit difficult to do a step-by-step for you, so the points made are the best advice I've got: "Goto Start -> Run. type gpedit.msc, select Windows Settings under Computer Configuration, select Security Settings, select Local Policies, select Security Options, go to Microsoft network client: Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers, set it to ENABLED. now try accesing your shared folders." AND/OR "From the Start menu right-click Computer, Properties, Advanced; or Control Panel, System; then to the right of "Computer name, domain, and workgroup settings" click Change Settings, where you see the old familiar Computer Name tab, click the Change ... button and assign the same name to the workgroup as you have on the other computers you want to share with (XP-wise). And have your "logon" account be the same as on the other computers, same password too, unless you want to play with Win7's 'manage credentials' function"A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmless 0 #24 November 2, 2009 Madhatter has described the correct way to share network drives... but in your situation why not simply place the hard drive from the XP machine into the Win7 machine? If you want to use both computers why not use a KVM switch (hooks 1 keyboard, 1 mouse, and 1 monitor to 2 computers) Edit to add: I have 2 large CRT Monitors (17 and 20 inch I believe) you are welcome to have. If you want to get them from Montgomery or SD Opelika (I'll probably be back at the Farm around Thanksgiving too)"Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #25 November 2, 2009 Quote If you're still struggling, have a look here: http://forums.techarena.in/networking-security/1105626.htm For some reason I could not open that site. I got this site from another friend: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/share-files-and-printers-between-windows-7-and-xp/ and tried the steps in there which seemed easy enough, but the Windows 7 computer is still not seeing the XP computer. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
