shropshire 0 #26 December 30, 2009 QuoteI'm using Ubuntu 9.10, which is the latest version. Very nice! Snap.... I actually have it as a Dual boot on my Netbook, so alternate between it and XP ... but find myself spending more time in Ubuntu these daze (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #27 December 30, 2009 I have been using windows 7 Ultimate (evluation copy, for free) for months. It is a little different but nothing drastic. I have had to upgrade my ram though! but My machine was 'weak' before anyway!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,121 #28 December 30, 2009 Quotenah, windows 7 is good...starter version is just pared down. and the spam must be a toshiba thing. I bought an HP netbook with it on there and haven't been asked about upgrading once. It's really not a POS...it's about 457130547340571307 times better than vista. Sorry, but the STARTER edition IS a POS. They have disabled it to the point of extreme irritation. Being better than Vista is a recommendation like being better than George W.B.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #29 December 30, 2009 What the hell is Ubuntu ?smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #30 December 30, 2009 QuoteWhat the hell is Ubuntu ? LinuxYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #31 December 30, 2009 QuoteSorry, but the STARTER edition IS a POS. They have disabled it to the point of extreme irritation. Being better than Vista is a recommendation like being better than George W.B. I've never understood why MS insists on releasing so many different editions of their OS. They should have a client edition (with all of the features of Ultimate and Enterprise) and a server edition and include the means for users to turn off unwanted or resource intensive features.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #32 December 30, 2009 QuoteWhat the hell is Ubuntu ? http://www.ubuntu.com/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 December 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteSorry, but the STARTER edition IS a POS. They have disabled it to the point of extreme irritation. Being better than Vista is a recommendation like being better than George W.B. I've never understood why MS insists on releasing so many different editions of their OS. They should have a client edition (with all of the features of Ultimate and Enterprise) and a server edition and include the means for users to turn off unwanted or resource intensive features. Because of the lawsuits. Yes you can blame the lawyers on that like here in this country and those in the EU...... SOOOOO MS has various versions to comply with all the morons who do not want all the bells and whistles that COULD be added and have Windows Ultimate. Most people I think prefer the bundled goodies since they want them and to not have to mess with every freaking driver necessary to run all the litterally MILLIONS of combinations of peripherals and chipsets.. others.. should just stick to Linux if they want to incesantly meddle with device drivers and futzing with their systems.. Apple has a distinct advantage with thier OS/ computers.. they force compliance by making the hardware AND the software themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #34 December 30, 2009 QuoteBecause of the lawsuits. Yes you can blame the lawyers on that like here in this country and those in the EU...... SOOOOO MS has various versions to comply with all the morons who do not want all the bells and whistles that COULD be added and have Windows Ultimate. I'm not referring to the addition of an internet browser or a media player, which generally aren't inherent to operating systems, but rather separate applications, whether they come bundled with the OS or not.. I'm referring to different OS features. QuoteApple has a distinct advantage with thier OS/ computers.. they force compliance by making the hardware AND the software themselves. I don't feel forced to use anything with my Mac. I can run any OS that I want. If I choose to use OS X, I can install and delete any browser or media player (available for that operating system) that I choose. I've yet to figure out how to delete IE from a Windows machine; that is forced.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 December 30, 2009 Quote Most people I think prefer the bundled goodies since they want them and to not have to mess with every freaking driver necessary to run all the litterally MILLIONS of combinations of peripherals and chipsets.. others.. should just stick to Linux if they want to incesantly meddle with device drivers and futzing with their systems.. Fangirl. I've built several dual boot computers - never had to 'meddle with device drivers' or 'futz with the system', unless you mean the Windows side. Quote Apple has a distinct advantage with thier OS/ computers.. they force compliance by making the hardware AND the software themselves. I thought their newer machines were pretty much 'off the shelf' components?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #36 December 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteApple has a distinct advantage with thier OS/ computers.. they force compliance by making the hardware AND the software themselves. I thought their newer machines were pretty much 'off the shelf' components? Pretty much, except that Apple do not use legacy BIOS, utilizing EFI instead.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 December 30, 2009 Quote Fangirl. I've built several dual boot computers - never had to 'meddle with device drivers' or 'futz with the system', unless you mean the Windows side. On my shelf at home I have EVERY version of windows going back to Windows1 and Windows 286 and Windows 386. For some strange reason I have NEVER had anywhere near the issues that people seem to have with thier machines. I dont get hacked I dont get virus I dont get malware... I dont have issues with drivers since about 1989. I just say no to most of the things that want to install themselves onto my computer when I am out surfing. I buy good hardware that stays running year after year.... And I tell ANYONE that wants me to work on thier computer.... that "I don't know nuffin bout thore puter things" Life is short enough.. I get paid to work on servers on the network and to make it all keep running.. and my own systems... I put as little time into them when needed.. otherwise... I like doing something OTHER than working on eveyone elses computers, since I am not the computer health care professional for them when they have bad lifestyle choices in their daily computing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #38 December 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteFor some strange reason I have NEVER had anywhere near the issues that people seem to have with thier machines. I dont get hacked I dont get virus I dont get malware... I dont have issues with drivers since about 1989. I just say no to most of the things that want to install themselves onto my computer when I am out surfing. I buy good hardware that stays running year after year.... Same here, but i unlike you know 2/10ths of nothing about computers, i merely make certain that ALL updates are current and run updated DATS on my VS. Never had a probem with Windows or IEYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #39 December 31, 2009 Run the Win 7 Upgrade Advisor I'm not a fan of the upgrade vs clean install, and am having significant problems with a friend's system that was upgraded vs clean OS install. I do like most of what Win7 has to offer. Some things, like dealing with going through multiple drives is a PITA, and stupid stuff like the desktop icon have been moved to dumb places. But, it is faster, it is sexier, and it is more intuitive to a degree. Hardware can be a bitch, because not all hardware (even legacy Vista hardware) has drivers found in Win7. But....it's very nice overall. And yes....backup is CRITICAL. There are several cheap/free backup apps that will do it all for you. You certainly would hate to lose all those spanking photos you've got stashed away, right? And all those juicy PM's you've archived after you've read them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,121 #40 December 31, 2009 Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #41 December 31, 2009 Quote Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition. Well get out there and get the full version.. I need a raise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Heatmiser 0 #42 December 31, 2009 I just upgraded to 7. So far, I like it. Definitely more stable than the version of Vista I've been running for the last year. It had gotten to the point that everytime I restarted, the drivers for my wireless card and all my usb ports wouldn't load. More a PITA than anything, since I could disable and enable them to get them working again, but typical strange failures since I've had it. We'll see in the long term. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,121 #43 December 31, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition. Well get out there and get the full version.. I need a raise So you ARE accepting the blame for the POS.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #44 December 31, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition. Well get out there and get the full version.. I need a raise So you ARE accepting the blame for the POS. Nope not at all.. plus I am not in the Windows group. It is a product that manufacturers wanted for the bulk purchase is cheaper than having to sell their hardware systems with the full operating system on it. The other reason is that quite a few people forced MS to make a product like that thru lawsuits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #45 January 1, 2010 QuoteThe other reason is that quite a few people forced MS to make a product like that thru lawsuits. To which lawsuits are you referring? I'm only aware of legal issues MS has had with IE and Windows Media Player being bundled with their OS. Those two apps don't create any differences between, for example, Starter edition and Ultimate edition, so I'm having trouble understanding why you believe they are relevant (if those are indeed the legal issues to which you are referring).Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,121 #46 January 9, 2010 GodMode news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10423985-56.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marcandalysse 0 #47 January 9, 2010 I did a clean install of Win7 Ultimate and had to separately download WinMediaPlayer and some other stuff. Oracle client won't work on Win7 yet among some other software I've tried to load. But I can't figure out what happened to "RECENT DOCUMENTS"...there is a 'recent items' on my start menu but it is always Empty....anyone have an idea on where to configure that? mp "The reason angels can fly is that they take themselves so lightly." --GK Chesterton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #48 January 9, 2010 Load Oracle and then right click on the file and change its compatibility mode to Vista SP1 or XP SP2 and it might fix the issue. I've done that to varius apps and it resolved their issues. 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DSE 5 #39 December 31, 2009 Run the Win 7 Upgrade Advisor I'm not a fan of the upgrade vs clean install, and am having significant problems with a friend's system that was upgraded vs clean OS install. I do like most of what Win7 has to offer. Some things, like dealing with going through multiple drives is a PITA, and stupid stuff like the desktop icon have been moved to dumb places. But, it is faster, it is sexier, and it is more intuitive to a degree. Hardware can be a bitch, because not all hardware (even legacy Vista hardware) has drivers found in Win7. But....it's very nice overall. And yes....backup is CRITICAL. There are several cheap/free backup apps that will do it all for you. You certainly would hate to lose all those spanking photos you've got stashed away, right? And all those juicy PM's you've archived after you've read them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,121 #40 December 31, 2009 Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #41 December 31, 2009 Quote Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition. Well get out there and get the full version.. I need a raise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #42 December 31, 2009 I just upgraded to 7. So far, I like it. Definitely more stable than the version of Vista I've been running for the last year. It had gotten to the point that everytime I restarted, the drivers for my wireless card and all my usb ports wouldn't load. More a PITA than anything, since I could disable and enable them to get them working again, but typical strange failures since I've had it. We'll see in the long term. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,121 #43 December 31, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition. Well get out there and get the full version.. I need a raise So you ARE accepting the blame for the POS.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #44 December 31, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote I just bought a Toshiba netbook that came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Jeez, is it ever spastic! It keeps trying to get me to upgrade - MS must know what a POS it is. I have no intention of giving MS any more money, I think I'll install XP instead. Turns out that installing XP is a royal PITA because the HDD drivers are so different and the WiFi driver Toshiba provides needs to be patched to make it work. $199 to upgrade to a decent version of WIN7 from the POS "Starter Edition". Suggestion to anyone about to buy a PC - do NOT get one with Win7 Starter Edition. Well get out there and get the full version.. I need a raise So you ARE accepting the blame for the POS. Nope not at all.. plus I am not in the Windows group. It is a product that manufacturers wanted for the bulk purchase is cheaper than having to sell their hardware systems with the full operating system on it. The other reason is that quite a few people forced MS to make a product like that thru lawsuits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #45 January 1, 2010 QuoteThe other reason is that quite a few people forced MS to make a product like that thru lawsuits. To which lawsuits are you referring? I'm only aware of legal issues MS has had with IE and Windows Media Player being bundled with their OS. Those two apps don't create any differences between, for example, Starter edition and Ultimate edition, so I'm having trouble understanding why you believe they are relevant (if those are indeed the legal issues to which you are referring).Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,121 #46 January 9, 2010 GodMode news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10423985-56.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #47 January 9, 2010 I did a clean install of Win7 Ultimate and had to separately download WinMediaPlayer and some other stuff. Oracle client won't work on Win7 yet among some other software I've tried to load. But I can't figure out what happened to "RECENT DOCUMENTS"...there is a 'recent items' on my start menu but it is always Empty....anyone have an idea on where to configure that? mp "The reason angels can fly is that they take themselves so lightly." --GK Chesterton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #48 January 9, 2010 Load Oracle and then right click on the file and change its compatibility mode to Vista SP1 or XP SP2 and it might fix the issue. I've done that to varius apps and it resolved their issues. There are a ton of other strings out there that enable Godmod features on XP and Vista, MS finally published them.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #49 January 9, 2010 How convenient Thanks for that link!! “The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
