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Leno /Conan change....(Late night for folks that are in bed by 10)



I didn't vote all I know is Conan is one lucky SOB! 40 million for 7 mnths work and now he will move on to another network and get paid again.
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Leno /Conan change....(Late night for folks that are in bed by 10)



Yep, I have to go with the "who the fuck cares, I'm in bed by 10 or 1030 most nights."

But I do set my TiVo to record, but it's recording Daily Show/Colbert Report during much of that time period, which is much better late night TV as far as I'm concerned.
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Debacle is the correct word.

Not that either one of these guys has to work another day in their lives but . . .

Leno left the slot voluntarily. Leno had his day in the sun and left it for greener pastures. When his new show didn't put up the numbers, he should have been gracious, backed out and let Conan remain in "The Tonight Show" seat.
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Leno /Conan change....(Late night for folks that are in bed by 10)



Yep, I have to go with the "who the fuck cares, I'm in bed by 10 or 1030 most nights."

But I do set my TiVo to record, but it's recording Daily Show/Colbert Report during much of that time period, which is much better late night TV as far as I'm concerned.



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So someone really does watch the daily show and Cobert?:o



Yes. Otherwise they wouldn't be on and wouldn't draw the salaries they do. Whether or not they're your political cup o' tea doesn't matter. What matters is there is a wide spectrum of political and entertainment viewpoints and there really is a niche for almost anyone as long as they know their audience. Clearly both of them do.
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So someone really does watch the daily show and Cobert?:o



Yep. I don't watch Colbert as much, but Jon Stewart is turning into the best media watchdog out there. Not to mention he's funny as hell. :)
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Yep, I have to go with the "who the fuck cares, I'm in bed by 10 or 1030 most nights."



Up at 4:30.

I say Leno should lay in the bed he made. Having said that, last I heard Conan was offered $32M ($40+ something total, but some of that going to his staff) to walk away...

One has to love what they do and/or love being in the spotlight to really care about whether or not they would have a spot on another network to not take that deal.

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So someone really does watch the daily show and Cobert?:o



Yep. I don't watch Colbert as much, but Jon Stewart is turning into the best media watchdog out there. Not to mention he's funny as hell. :)


It is a sad state of affairs that a show that started out as a spoof of network news became the best news show.
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Leno /Conan change....(Late night for folks that are in bed by 10)



The whole situation is based on old school thinking about media delivery.
"News at 11" is passe. You can get news on demand that is up to date 24 by 7.

In the dark ages, people channel surfed until they found something they wanted to watch.
The content was dictated in time by the media outlets, whether broadcast, cable or satellite.
In the new age, media on demand is the de-facto standard, or it will become that very quickly.

It used to be "What's on TV now?"
Now it's "What can I view based on what I want to see now?"

Many people with cable or satellite or broadcast TV connections record the shows for later viewing.
IOW, people no longer are at the mercy of a media outlet schedule to dictate what they can or cannot watch.

Leno's poor broadcast ratings affected affiliates that still operate in the "News at 11" paradigm.
Boo-hoo for them (the local affiliates) to think that news teasers "Man shoots 10 people at sporting event" or "Earthquake hits Haiti" or "Snowstorm strands 100s along intestate 80" or etc would keep people tuned into the local station waiting with baited breath for the details. The plain fact is that breaking news stories get told on social networks and other 24 hour news networks much faster.

The affiliates need to modernize their thinking and put news stories on as they happen and not wait for the "News at 11" segment and then add it to their website after it was broadcast.
People are used to real time results and are migrating to those sources even if they are not the long time established networks.
For the more mundane daily programs, people go to the web site and watch the program at their convenience, not when the network says it'll be on.

On demand programming is the way of the future. The faster the established media outlets realize this, the faster they can make money from it.

The whole issue of Leno v Conan v Letterman is moot. Anyone can watch all 3 shows at their convenience.

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The fact that the other late night hosts seem unified in attacking Leno is a bigger indicator to me of what is going on. The fact that they aren't competing with him anymore is more relevant to me.



I think this is the key point... I think Seinfeld offered some tepid support for Leno very early on, but other than that, it seems like there is overwhelming support from Conan (or simply anti-Leno) by their peers.

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