andybr6 0 #1 May 29, 2005 I am going to do my my first Freefly jumps soon. I jump one if the older Mirage containers [still made in the mid 90's all tuck tabs secure no exposed bridle on BOC etc etc] but it does not have anywhere to attach bungee cord on the leg straps so: Is it effective to tie the bungee cord on the legstraps? If so where abouts do i tie it? I would prefer to have my rigger just sew some attachment points onto my leg straps and I will do this eventually but at the moment he is very busy and so am I. Am I taking on any extra risk by not having it sown on, I have seen Freeflyers jump with the legstraps tied with bungee or pull up cord but then I have seen a lot of people take risks that I would not... ------------------------------------------------ "All men can fly, but sadly, only in one direction" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 May 29, 2005 I personally don't use a butt bungy, my rig doesn't slid around on my legs; however, I have seen rigs cause serious problems for people by not having them. Generally speaking they were rigs that didn't fit well or people that tended to have their legstraps a little loose. With that said, I would recommend having something until you get some more experience to be able to make a decision to have a butt bungy or not. So in the mean time, tieing a pull-up chord through your legstraps is a decent solution. Its takes no time to do and it works fairly well (even if it does look a little goofy). Also, remember, when learning how to FF please turn 90 degrees off of jump run since you will most likely be sliding across the sky at a considerable speed. That way you're not sliding up or down jumprun into different groups. Feel free to consult the S&TA or the head instructor at your DZ as well as some of the very experienced FFers for more information on DZ specifics for FFing.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #3 May 30, 2005 The downside of using a pull-up cord: harness turns aren't going to work so well under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 May 30, 2005 Quote The downside of using a pull-up cord: harness turns aren't going to work so well under canopy. Well, I'm going to assume that with a stated 60 jumps that jumper isn't jumping a canopy that is at a high enough wingloading and design that he's really using a lot of harness turns.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #5 May 30, 2005 I wouldn't confirm that. I have harness with butt bungee and my canopy (Safire 129 ~1.45) turns perfectly with harness inputs. I would say it depends on how tight you leg straps are. Canopy turns faster when my leg straps are loose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 May 30, 2005 QuoteI have harness with butt bungee and my canopy (Safire 129 ~1.45) turns perfectly with harness inputs. And the bungee stretches more then a tied on pull-up chord would, too. Its really a matter of splitting hairs, sort of like the chest rings vs. no chest rings for harness input discussion. Its what you want for your rig that makes it perform for you in the most efficient and safest way possible. Beyond that it comes down to splitting hairs in performance with skydivers that don't have the skill to require to sqeeze that extra half-an-ounce of performance out of their gear (myself included in that group, obviously).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #7 May 30, 2005 Really your rigger should be able to take of this.... ..I had some loops added to my infinity and it literally took the rigger 10 minutes. If he's too busy during the day and you jump there often just leave your rig and ask him/her to do it as soon as possible. "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites