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Departure Stall

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Hi Ryo,
Yup, "Departure stall" was it flaps up or down?? When I was a student pilot, my instructor always had me doing departure stalls flaps up, the "normal configuration" for that event. On my Private Check ride, Jim Thurston the Fed examiner, said ok, departure stall set flaps at 40 degrees!! I replied that my instructor never had me do them like that and he said,"Well you gonna' now!!" Tried one and sure enough it was hell holding it straight and the Cessna 150 came off to the left!! He said try it again and this time honk on that rudder and hold er' straight!! "Did it!!" He said,"Good, you Pass!" He said he does that because he had a solo student in "His" C-150 comming in for a landing, slow, dirty (full flaps) and the tower gave him a go around and he couldn't handle it!! (I guess you would call that an aborted approach stall instead of a departure stall but the effects are still the same, CRASH!!) Just thought I'd toss that tidbit out there. My PP check ride 06SEP79 LGB, CA.
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Hi Ryo,
Yup, "Departure stall" was it flaps up or down?? When I was a student pilot, my instructor always had me doing departure stalls flaps up, the "normal configuration" for that event. On my Private Check ride, Jim Thurston the Fed examiner, said ok, departure stall set flaps at 40 degrees!!



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When I was working on my SEL rating, my instructor told me not to even try to do a departure with 40 degrees of flaps on a C-150, and strongly recommended not using more 30 on landings unless absolutely necessary, due to the issues of trying to climb with full flaps.

The 152 had the flaps limited to 30 degrees.
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Hi Ryo,
Yup, "Departure stall" was it flaps up or down?? When I was a student pilot, my instructor always had me doing departure stalls flaps up, the "normal configuration" for that event. On my Private Check ride, Jim Thurston the Fed examiner, said ok, departure stall set flaps at 40 degrees!!



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When I was working on my SEL rating, my instructor told me not to even try to do a departure with 40 degrees of flaps on a C-150, and strongly recommended not using more 30 on landings unless absolutely necessary, due to the issues of trying to climb with full flaps.

The 152 had the flaps limited to 30 degrees.

Hi Ryo,
A big 10-4 on that but like Jim Turston, my Fed examiner said," I lost a really nice Cessna 150 because the student couldn't recover from that situation." After he told me I passed, he said OK now watch this. he craked in 40 degrees of flaps (This Cessna 150 had that much) and put the plane in a steep climb and proceeded to stall it, recover, stall it, recover, he'd just sit there and play with that stall!! I was impressed!! Thing is that really wasn't a departure stall, in the conventional sense, but as I said above, an aborted approach to landing stall with full flaps and low airspeed. I concur with your instrs. advice on 30 degrees max flaps , 'ya really don't need 40 * unless yer tryin' to get into a really tight short field. I guess Cessna figgured out the 40* thing when they upgraded the 150 to the 152 and reduced the flaps to 30*!!
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Slacking of standards among new pilots and an legal environment of increasing liability are what killed 40% flaps on the 150/152, and 172. Eventually it killed aircraft production for some number of years too.[:/]

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He gets no points for that attempt.. he put it left of the goal post.


But look at the distance!
(Wait for the helicopter view)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGq9OnHLHs&NR=1

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Slacking of standards among new pilots and an legal environment of increasing liability are what killed 40% flaps on the 150/152, and 172. Eventually it killed aircraft production for some number of years too.[:/]



Hi diablo,
Yeah, that too!! I concur.
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