ripcord4 0 #1 May 13, 2005 Does anyone know for a fact that FAA riggers are not allowed to repack a military MC-4 reserve canopy? I have heard it both ways. Anyone from the FAA out there to answer this one way or the other? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #2 May 13, 2005 I have had mine repacked, and have seen one packed for many years. I understand it that they do not have a TSO, but are covered due to the military rating, and I forget what letters it is like ANSO or something. Edit you might see what what I am talking about in the picture I have of my old rig.. I am not really sure what all that means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #3 May 13, 2005 If the rig is owned by the military a military rigger must pack it. If the rig is bought commercially it must be packed by an FAA certified rigger (it can be a military rigger FAA cerified) From our local FSDO office. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #4 May 13, 2005 Thanks, Matt. I have an opportunity to get an MC-4 cheap but have been told a military rigger must pack it - that an FAA rigger could not. That didn't sound right to me which is why I posted the question. Now if I can find someone at DeLand or Z-Hills to pack it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #5 May 13, 2005 From FAR Part 105: "Approved parachute means a parachute manufactured under a type certificate or a Technical Standard Order (C-23 series), or a personnel-carrying U.S. military parachute (other than a high altitude, high speed, or ejection type) identified by a Navy Air Facility, an Army Air Field, and Air Force-Navy drawing number, an Army Air Field order number, or any other military designation or specification number. " The military rigger doesn't know what he is talking about. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfall 0 #6 May 13, 2005 I own a mc-5 military rig and right now my instructor and master rigger is repacking the reserve and adding a cypress and a boc for a throw out and he didn't say anything about there being a problem with it. STEP OUT AND FEEL THE RUSH!!!!! LATERSTEP OUT AND FEEL THE RUSH!!!! LATER SKYBOMB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #7 May 14, 2005 Thanks for the feedback, guys, I appreciate it. Has any MC-4/5 owners have any problems with it. I know the canopies are humongous and heavy. What to do / not do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #8 May 15, 2005 QuoteThanks for the feedback, guys, I appreciate it. Has any MC-4/5 owners have any problems with it. I know the canopies are humongous and heavy. What to do / not do. The MC-4/5 rigs have MT1-X main and reserve canopies in them. They are 370 sq. ft. 7 cells. They are big and heavy and not designed for sport jumping. What to do, look for something else. What not to do, try and make a sport rig out of a MC-4. jmo SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #9 May 16, 2005 I loved mine. I flat packed it rolled each sid eof the canopy's nose 3-4 times inside the center cell worked great. I had a FXC, and it was converted to BOC with a 36'' PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #10 May 16, 2005 Sparky: Sounds like it might be a decent cheap accuracy/cross-country canopy for a bigger person. Is there anything dangerous about them, or are you just saying it's a big boat that you won't like as a sport rig? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frawley308 0 #11 May 16, 2005 I am a rigger and regularly jump my MT-1-XX which is the original version of the MC-4. It is a GREAT cross country rig and fair accuracy rig. The reserve can be packed by an FAA rigger and if you cannot find one that is willing or has experience with it in Deland, send it down to Miami and I will pack it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stik 0 #12 May 25, 2005 I love my MC-4s although they are a bit of a pain to pack. Petey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #13 May 25, 2005 QuoteSparky: Sounds like it might be a decent cheap accuracy/cross-country canopy for a bigger person. Is there anything dangerous about them, or are you just saying it's a big boat that you won't like as a sport rig? Thanks. I am saying it is big, heavy and does not make a good sports rig. They are no more dangerous then then the person using it, but they are different. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #14 May 26, 2005 QuoteThey are no more dangerous then then the person using it, but they are different. I understand it's not a user-friendly sport rig, just wondered if there was a valid reason to avoid using one for cross-country if it was available. You cleared that up, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites