shah269 0 #1 April 19, 2010 Ladies help me out here. I'm 33 and dating again. The last time I did this I was 22 and well it appears that more things have changed the more they have stayed the same....to me. But I'm being told otherwise. So please help me out if you can. When I was younger I was an expert in throwing myself into the friend zone like a champ. Took a year of education to learn not to be so freaking stupid by being so freaking nice. But now I'm older and so are the girls I'm talking to......not going to go younger than 27 it's just a little creepy....and I'm not so sure about the rules of the Friend Zone. Are they still the same now that you are older? Do I still have to be a flaming ass so as to stay above the friend zone? Or have you ladies by this age matured that a guy can actually be nice to you and give a rats ass about your existence and not be relegated into the friend zone and thus have a chance at a long term stable relationship?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #2 April 19, 2010 Fuck dating!. Head to the DZ, hang around the bonfire at night, be yourself...Women will happen, and you get to spend all that stupidly saved "dating" money for skydiving! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #3 April 19, 2010 He's right. Give yourself an interesting life that excites you. Then you'll have enough of a life to share with someone. If you just go looking for someone, what will you share? Yeah, there's sex and dinner, but sharing only those is why relationships don't always last very long. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #4 April 19, 2010 Quote He's right. Give yourself an interesting life that excites you. Then you'll have enough of a life to share with someone. If you just go looking for someone, what will you share? Yeah, there's sex and dinner, but sharing only those is why relationships don't always last very long. Wendy P. Nothing I like better than a woman that agrees with me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 April 19, 2010 Quote Fuck dating!. Head to the DZ, hang around the bonfire at night, be yourself...Women will happen, and you get to spend all that stupidly saved "dating" money for skydiving! Head to the DZ to find women???I can think of places that have a ratio a lot better than 5:1."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #6 April 19, 2010 I'll vote for the current trend. Have lots of fun. I'm focusing on skydiving, hang gliding, mountain biking, SCUBA, martial arts, etc. Women were way too much trouble.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #7 April 19, 2010 Quote Quote Fuck dating!. Head to the DZ, hang around the bonfire at night, be yourself...Women will happen, and you get to spend all that stupidly saved "dating" money for skydiving! Head to the DZ to find women???I can think of places that have a ratio a lot better than 5:1. You shittin me? Perris, i'd say closer to 3 to 1. and they are the kind of women you want to meet, no games no bullshit! I'll take quility over quantity any day, I been layed plenty,.I like a woman that is also my "friend,partner,buddy"....pussy is easy to get! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #8 April 20, 2010 I met my wife at a DZ. Need I say more? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #9 April 20, 2010 Easiest way to get Laid?? Dont try. Friend Zone?? Who Cares. Friends with benefits are the best deal going. Be A real friend and once they know you are not going to get clingy with them.. Your odds go way up. Worst case, You don't get laid but got new friend.. That will hook you up with her friends. Any girl that just dates the asshole types is damaged goods anyway and generally not worth the effort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #10 April 20, 2010 OK answered my own question. Was "talking" with two women, 27-33. Both educated and both have a decent job and have their lives together. Have gone out three times with both. Decided to be caring with one and and "me" to the other when both were sick this week end....allergies/colds. Guess who didn't call me / email me yesterday? The more things change the more things stay the same! As for finding a girl at the DZ or at Yoga class or other....you know that would be super! That would freaking fantastic! But let's be honest, at a DZ? That's like hitting on a engineering chick.......WHY? (do you really want me to go into this?) But sadly, and I do say this with a heavy heart for I am a Capricorn, the more things change the more things stay the same. For those that have who have found their better half at the DZ....more power to you =-) Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #11 April 20, 2010 Lets see.. With one you were being real.. the other you were being fake. No mystery there. Wouldn't say that says anything about them other than they are not stupid.. And if you are not hitting it by the third date, Stop wasting time. Yours and Theirs. Move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #12 April 20, 2010 Quote Lets see.. With one you were being real.. the other you were being fake. No mystery there. Wouldn't say that says anything about them other than they are not stupid.. And if you are not hitting it by the third date, Stop wasting time. Yours and Theirs. Move on. The Almighty holder of the man-card has spoken. Let it be done.What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #13 April 20, 2010 Quote Lets see.. With one you were being real.. the other you were being fake. No mystery there. Wouldn't say that says anything about them other than they are not stupid.. And if you are not hitting it by the third date, Stop wasting time. Yours and Theirs. Move on. Ash...it's the one I was "real" with who didn't text me or email me. She was sick on Sunday and I simply asked if she needed some chicken soup. Dove right into the friend zone with that one! The other one, I just said "That sucks get better soon...." continues to email me asking about date #3 . It's sad isn't it? The moment you care about some one or show humanity you are relegated to the "friend zone". But if you are a flaming ass......well you'll get ass! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 April 20, 2010 You need to find a better DZ. Ours its about 1.5:1 Besides, I met my wife jumping and most the girls I dated before her were jumpers. DZ's are not as bad as some people make them out, if you aren't able to eventually find a date on a DZ then its probably you that is the issue. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #15 April 20, 2010 Sadly I will have to say if you don't count the tandems that show up giggling their little tits off......I would say we have 0 available women to well over a dozen dirty perverts. But sadly I don't get it. I really do wish to not be an ass but doing so relegates me to the "friend zone" and thus the relationship will never evolve. I was hoping that women in their 30's would be past this level of stupidity but sadly regardless of the education level it still seems to hold true. Women just like it when you don't give a rats ass or show any level of compassion. ie if she is suck, say "Shucks get better soon" instead of saying "Would you like me to pick you up a pint of soup from---fill in the blank---on my way home from work?" (i already know where she lives due to picking her up for date #2)Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #16 April 20, 2010 Quote You need to find a better DZ. Ours its about 1.5:1 Besides, I met my wife jumping and most the girls I dated before her were jumpers. DZ's are not as bad as some people make them out, if you aren't able to eventually find a date on a DZ then its probably you that is the issue. Ref: http://www.uspa.org/AboutSkydiving/SkydiverDemographics/tabid/303/Default.aspx USPA Members by Gender Year Male Female N/R TOTAL 2009 85% 13% 2% 32,177 Unless you are into polygamy, that does not work."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #17 April 20, 2010 Try this approach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPzEhWN6bP0 The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #18 April 20, 2010 Quote I met my wife at a DZ. Need I say more? +1, I did the same "He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #19 April 20, 2010 It's the same in the engineering world. Class of 100, 5 girls. 1 was a dude. 1 is from Kerblakistan and smell of fermented shoe. 2 are dating older guys or have been with the same guy since they were 2 And the last one is your good friend who you "use" to distract the slaves your university imports from India and China so that you can cheat on the lab.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #20 April 20, 2010 Quote Quote USPA Members by Gender Year Male Female N/R TOTAL 2009 85% 13% 2% 32,177 Unless you are into polygamy, that does not work. The odds are even worse if you're N/R curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #21 April 20, 2010 Are you sure the real you is not the flaming ass? What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #22 April 20, 2010 Quote Are you sure the real you is not the flaming ass? Ask the people who came over to the stip club. I'm actually a nice guy Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #23 April 20, 2010 >As for finding a girl at the DZ or at Yoga class or other....you know that >would be super! That would freaking fantastic! But let's be honest, at a >DZ? That's like hitting on a engineering chick . . . Since you compiled a list of all the "loser chicks" in your engineering classes I'll list some winners. (These are just the women I lived with at MIT.) Kelly - rugby player, mechanical engineer, one of the kindest people I've ever met. Lived next to her for two years. Ailish - Played volleyball and basketball and was very good (one of the best women volleyball players at MIT) despite having only one hand. She was a continuous inspiration to me. Ended up becoming getting an engineering degree, but then went on to get a law degree. Denise - mechanical engineer, into BDSM (although she didn't know it at the time) movie star gorgeous. Developed the mechanical part of an artificial foot during her senior year. Janet - great skier, skiied with her on and off during the years I was there. She was dating a good friend of mine so we spent a lot of time together. Penny - Japanese woman; spent a week with her over spring break in an RV with 12 people in it. This worked out well for me. As the hottest chick in the RV she slept wherever she wanted (which was in the one big bed) and I slept next to her. Phyllis - from my hometown. We spent a summer rafting and climbing together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #24 April 20, 2010 Quote But if you are a flaming ass......well you'll get ass! Sounds like you were destined for success. I don't think you will get too lucky at the DZ. Women are looking for successful skydivers, and you are, well... a student jumper with a broken leg. Not too impressive to the average Skygoddess. Of course, if you were to cite your phenomenal DZ.com Post-to-Jump Ratio, that may excite a few... _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #25 April 20, 2010 Quote Sounds like you were destined for success. I don't think you will get too lucky at the DZ. Women are looking for successful skydivers, and you are, well... a student jumper with a broken leg. Not too impressive to the average Skygoddess. Of course, if you were to cite your phenomenal DZ.com Post-to-Jump Ratio, that may excite a few... Actually one of the things I really miss about being married was practicing Yoga with my x-wife. Yeah we had our issues but in class I could always rely on her to give me a hand or encouragement and I would do the same for her. It is one of the things I miss the most about her, it was perhaps our only place where we still meshed in the end. So yeah finding someone at the DZ would be amazing. But let's face it the numbers aren't exactly in a guys favor. Either you have to be very good, note your post, or very good looking....which I assure you I'm not. Hence why I'm not looking there. Also, and I know this will sound nuts, but the DZ for me is sacred. It's peaceful and calm. Why mess it up with the chance that the relationship may fail? But back on topic, shame things don't change with age? Even at 30 it appears that the moment you show any compassion about the other person it's a one way ticket to the Friend Zone.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
