People who use the term 'dorkzone' are

[strop45 0]

I recently saw a study which indicated that in general people of lower intelligence regarded themselves as being more intelligent then their peers and vice versa.

Do those who use the term 'dorkzone', appreciate the irony?

IMHO, skydivers in general are more intelligent and capable than a random cross section of society, but may be I'm wrong and this really is 'dorkzone'. (key theme music from twilight zone)

Your thoughts?

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein

[skymama 37]

Even if they call it dorkzone, they're still reading it on most days.

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[ryoder 1,590]

Journal of Personality and Social Psychology
1999, Vol. 77, No. 6. 1121-1134
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments

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People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Andy9o8 2]

Interesting.
That being said, I'm a much better driver than average.

[ryoder 1,590]

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Interesting.
That being said, I'm a much better driver than average.

Ah...the Lake Wobegon Effect.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rockola 0]

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People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains.

Doesn't apply to me, coz I gots mad skillz.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it.

One of my favorite Bertrand Russel quotes is this: "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
What you quoted explains so much about some of my coworkers. I guess the weak sticks really do think they're that good.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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Interesting.
That being said, I'm a much better driver than average.

Ah...the Lake Wobegon Effect.

Like the Lake Erie Effect for Buffalo, NY. It makes the piles really high and deep.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains.

Doesn't apply to me, coz I gots mad skillz.

Hell Yeah!

[happythoughts 0]

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Even if they call it dorkzone, they're still reading it on most days.

Sure, in real life if you talk like that to people, you have no friends. So, the only social skill to fall back on is the electronic equivalent of being the child who annoys for attention.

It's that special 3rd grade thing of pulling the pigtails of the little girl in the next desk. She won't talk to them unless it is "cut it out, you moron".

[CSpenceFLY 1]

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Journal of Personality and Social Psychology
1999, Vol. 77, No. 6. 1121-1134
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments

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People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities

That's alot of words to say they are Stupid Fuckers but don't know it.

[kallend 2,147]

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Interesting.
That being said, I'm a much better driver than average.

So are the rest of us. No below average drivers in THIS country!

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[kallend 2,147]

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I recently saw a study which indicated that in general people of lower intelligence regarded themselves as being more intelligent then their peers and vica versa.

That would be vice versa.

Jus' sayin'.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[strop45 0]

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I recently saw a study which indicated that in general people of lower intelligence regarded themselves as being more intelligent then their peers and vica versa.

That would be vice versa.

Jus' sayin'.

Cheers, I'm an enginnnear not a english major :-)

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein

[ryoder 1,590]

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That's alot of words to say they are Stupid Fuckers but don't know it.

In the places I've worked, Stupid Fuckers is not the preferred nomenclature.
We call them management.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Jumpdude 0]

The people that I've seen that use that terminology most actively are those fuckers who support sLyride. They've posted that term several times in the threads.

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[NickDG 23]

When all I ever did was be on the DZ and hang with jumpers day and night I naturally thought "we" were kinda special too. But I never gave voice to it. One day I was teaching in an instructor seminar thing and one of the speakers went on about how unique and special jumpers are and it struck me how ridiculous he sounded.

Since then I've learned this "group think" affects many people. I've seen it in sailors, bikers, and medics. And I dare say you'll find it in truckers, moonshiners, and those guys who dig holes in the ground in Idaho to await the apocalypse.

The truth is fun, interesting, and warm people who are a joy to be around exist everywhere, even on your local bowling team!

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[turtlespeed 226]

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and those guys who dig holes in the ground in Idaho to await the apocalypse.

I'd be interested in this group - do you have any info on them?

I am looking for a new foil hat as well.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[timmyfitz 0]

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Journal of Personality and Social Psychology
1999, Vol. 77, No. 6. 1121-1134
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments

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People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities

So what they are trying to say is that stupid people don't know they are stupid because they are stupid.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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The truth is fun, interesting, and warm people who are a joy to be around exist everywhere, even on your local bowling team!

I have started to learn this valuable lesson over the last few years. Skydiving is an ultra cool sport and one thing really neat about skydiving is that you meet people from all walks of life. But skydiving is not the only really cool sport/activity out there. The important thing is to find something you enjoy doing and then go do it.

My problem is I keep finding myself interested in expensive activities. It all started with myself flying airplanes for recreational purposes, then I migrated to jumping out of them. Lately I have enjoyed driving my German sports car as fast as I could possible drive it around race tracks. What I really need to do is take pleasure from watching the grass grow. I would have more money in the bank if I took more pleasure in grass ... well you know the type of grass you don't smoke.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Interesting.
That being said, I'm a much better driver than average.

I'll believe you when you start passing more powerful cars than what you are using on your local race track. Unless you are pushing yourself with success in the controlled confines of a race track, how can you know you really do possess superior driving skills?

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[dgskydive 0]

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Even if they call it dorkzone, they're still reading it on most days.

+1

Dom

[OlympiaStoica 0]

You are making the assumption that someone may be using the name “dorkzone” to imply “low intelligence” – WRONG. Perhaps they mean to imply … well … “dorkyness”???

Definition of dork (from www.urbandictionary.com)

“Someone who has odd interests, and is often silly at times. A dork is also someone who can be themselves and not care what anyone thinks.”

Dorks!!!

O

[OlympiaStoica 0]

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I recently saw a study which indicated that in general people of lower intelligence regarded themselves as being more intelligent then their peers and vica versa.

That would be vice versa.

Jus' sayin'.

Cheers, I'm an enginnnear not a english major :-)

You misspelled “engineer” too, but that’s beside the point. Don’t make such statements on here … or Shah will get on your case about how socially inept you must be .

O

[Bolas 5]

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You are making the assumption that someone may be using the name “dorkzone” to imply “low intelligence” – WRONG. Perhaps they mean to imply … well … “dorkyness”???

Definition of dork (from www.urbandictionary.com)

“Someone who has odd interests, and is often silly at times. A dork is also someone who can be themselves and not care what anyone thinks.”

Dorks!!!

O

If that's the definition, dork is a badge I wear proudly.

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