theonlyski 8 #51 June 12, 2010 Some parents wont let their kids take the family (~18k) car out for a weekend... Whens this chick turn 18, and hows she look? I feel like a trip to Cali to meet my future wife is in order! "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #52 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard. If its has hard to sink the boat as they made it sound, how are they going to do it? Massive amounts of weight on it? There are very few things in this life that simply can't be solved by the proper application of high explosives!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #53 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhy would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard. If its has hard to sink the boat as they made it sound, how are they going to do it? Massive amounts of weight on it? There are very few things in this life that simply can't be solved by the proper application of high explosives! Nope, not many at all, but I highly doubt (or would hope) that the ship that picked her up is lacking these explosives on board."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #54 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhy would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard. If its has hard to sink the boat as they made it sound, how are they going to do it? Massive amounts of weight on it? There are very few things in this life that simply can't be solved by the proper application of high explosives! Nope, not many at all, but I highly doubt (or would hope) that the ship that picked her up is lacking these explosives on board. Its a French boat, of course there are high explosives, otherwise how else would the be able to surrender and scuttle their boat?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #55 June 12, 2010 Quote Its a French boat, of course there are high explosives, otherwise how else would the be able to surrender and scuttle their boat? BAM!Well played, sir!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #56 June 12, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Why would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard. If its has hard to sink the boat as they made it sound, how are they going to do it? Massive amounts of weight on it? There are very few things in this life that simply can't be solved by the proper application of high explosives! Nope, not many at all, but I highly doubt (or would hope) that the ship that picked her up is lacking these explosives on board. Its a French boat, of course there are high explosives, otherwise how else would the be able to surrender and scuttle their boat? True... French Naval vessels are the only ones out there that have "ALL REVERSE - FLANK" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #57 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteThey could just find an iceburg and pull the ol' titanic move on it? I dont know if I would want to sink that puppy, sounds expensive! About half a mil worth of expensive, yes, from what I've seen online for the class .... large sailboats (and especially open ocean racers) don't come cheap! Race yachts have an extreme amout of depreciation. You can buy an IACC class boat (which costs on average of about 17 million to build) for about half a million, and sometimes even for $250,000. A Clarke Open Class 40 without rigging or electronics goes new for 280,000 Euros. I don't know if the Open boats are more or less expensive than the Class boats. I seem to recall mention in Abby's blog that her boat was about $350k, before the upgrades they did. I could be wrong on that, though. A paypal account has been set up to try to raise money to tow the sailboat back to port, evidently.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #58 June 12, 2010 Quote There are very few things in this life that simply can't be solved by the proper application of high explosives! Not to mention the IMproper application of high explosives! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #59 June 12, 2010 WTF? You throw in 20 bucks and buy 1% of the boat, which after being towed back is sold and you get $40? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #60 June 12, 2010 Quote Whens this chick turn 18, and hows she look? I feel like a trip to Cali to meet my future wife is in order! You got two years to join a reciprocal yacht club in your area, become a flag member and sail at her level. this one is going to be hard to impress_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #61 June 12, 2010 Quote Some parents wont let their kids take the family (~18k) car out for a weekend... Whens this chick turn 18, and hows she look... Maybe she'll decide to take up Skydiving when she turns 18? Maybe someone should send her a gift certificate for a Free First Jump Course, redeemable anytime after she turns 18? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #62 June 12, 2010 Maybe she'll decide to become the youngest jumper to do X jumps in Y hours or something, get some corporate sponsors and buy a Porter or something for the DZ to do it. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #63 June 12, 2010 Quote Not to mention the IMproper application of high explosives! P for plenty! Quote A paypal account has been set up to try to raise money to tow the sailboat back to port, evidently. Good luck with that one... they could afford the boat, they surely can afford to tow the motherfucker back to port. Quote You got two years to join a reciprocal yacht club in your area, become a flag member and sail at her level. this one is going to be hard to impress I dont think Iraq has a yacht club that I could join... so that might not be happening anytime soon. Tennesse doesnt either (that I know of). Quote Maybe she'll decide to take up Skydiving when she turns 18? MUST GET TANDEM RATING!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #64 June 12, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote They could just find an iceburg and pull the ol' titanic move on it? I dont know if I would want to sink that puppy, sounds expensive! About half a mil worth of expensive, yes, from what I've seen online for the class .... large sailboats (and especially open ocean racers) don't come cheap! Race yachts have an extreme amout of depreciation. You can buy an IACC class boat (which costs on average of about 17 million to build) for about half a million, and sometimes even for $250,000. A Clarke Open Class 40 without rigging or electronics goes new for 280,000 Euros. I don't know if the Open boats are more or less expensive than the Class boats. I seem to recall mention in Abby's blog that her boat was about $350k, before the upgrades they did. I could be wrong on that, though. A paypal account has been set up to try to raise money to tow the sailboat back to port, evidently. Owen Clark is a builder who builds Open 40's. There's also Roger's and Peterson's, ect. ect. When referencing class, it just means the builder with the word "class" added to it. It is still an ocean going sailboat that follows "Open 40" rules of construction. 280,000 euros it is. Double it up, and we may have the full price of the boat._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #65 June 12, 2010 Quote 280,000 euros it is. Double it up, and we may have the full price of the boat. I did find this from a news story: "The family had originally eyed an Open 40 in Nassau, Bahamas, but the boat in Portsmouth was closer to their price range. The Sunderlands have raised $150,000 in what the family is calling Project Global Breeze, and they stayed within budget on the purchase of Wild Eyes." So, maybe the purchase and subsequent upgrades were 350K...still not exactly pocket change!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #66 June 12, 2010 Quote I dont think Iraq has a yacht club that I could join... What ju talkin about, Willis? The U.S. Navy has some pretty good "yachts" south of Basrah.Not to worry, these type of personalities are not afraid of taking up skydiving._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #67 June 12, 2010 Quote Quote I dont think Iraq has a yacht club that I could join... What ju talkin about, Willis? The U.S. Navy has some pretty good "yachts" south of Basrah.Not to worry, these type of personalities are not afraid of taking up skydiving. Yeah, Ive been to Basrah... didnt see a yacht club sign anywhere on the damn base! Damn Navy holding out on the Army guys!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #68 June 12, 2010 I'm still impressed._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #69 June 13, 2010 QuoteI'm still impressed. Indeed. Did some more searching - evidently the "Open" boats allow exotic materials (titanium blocks, for example) and things like tilting keels. "Class 40 should not be confused with Open 40, which is an unrestricted race boat type that allows for instance the use of canting keels and carbon fibre in hull and deck structure. At least initially it might be that Class 40 and Open 40 will co-exist in some events but few Open 40’s will be able to qualify and race in the same class as a Class 40. In time it is felt that Class 40 will become in the same way as the Mini Transat, by far the dominant offshore short-handed racing class in its length."Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #70 June 13, 2010 Class vs. Open. Two different things after all. Check._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #71 June 13, 2010 Published June 12, 2010 American teenager Abby Sunderland vowed Saturday that she would attempt to sail solo round the world again, after her first try at the record was thwarted when she became stranded for two nights in rough Indian Ocean seas. Sunderland was plucked from her damaged yacht by a French fishing vessel on Saturday, 2000 nautical miles from the western coast of Australia. Her 40-foot sailboat Wild Eyes remains adrift. The 16-year-old sailor was waiting to be evacuated since Friday, when Australian rescuers spotted her from the air and made radio contact. "It's been a little bit crazy these past few days. Everything's happened pretty fast but I was really lucky that there was a boat that could come and get me where I was," Sunderland said, according to Australian broadcaster ABC. "When stuff is going on out there you can't really get too scared about it -- I mean it doesn't really do any good." When asked if she would sail again, she said: "I'm definitely going to sail around the world again, or at least give it another try. "I don't know when I'll get another chance to do it. "I've wanted to sail around the world for years and I definitely want to do it." An Australian Maritime Safety Authority said Sunderland was likely to be transferred to one of two other ships steaming for the rescue site. "Arrangements to land Ms Sunderland will now be negotiated with the three ships that have responded to the distress situation. One ship is bound for Australia and the other would likely return to its home port at La Reunion,'' the spokeswoman said. From the U.S., Sunderland's parents responded to a wave of criticism for letting her attempt her treacherous solo round-the-world journey -- saying the family were "adventurers, not accountants." Sunderland left Los Angeles on Jan. 23 in the hope of becoming the youngest person to circumnavigate the globe solo, attempting to better Australian Jessica Watson. But she came to grief when her mast snapped and yacht rolled in atrocious weather conditions on Thursday http://www.abbysunderland.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #72 June 14, 2010 From Sailing Anarchy: NickD http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php Jeff Casher, technical support staff member for the Sunderland family, shows frustration in the face of unrelenting media pressure outside team HQ in Thousand Oaks, Calif. Abby Sunderland. Abby too shows some frustration in her latest update, writing "There are plenty of things people can think of to blame for my situation; my age, the time of year and many more. The truth is, I was in a storm and you don't sail through the Indian Ocean without getting in at least one storm." Abby conveniently fails to mention that these kinds of storms happen roughly every 3-4 days in the Southern Ocean at this time of year, and that they are simply a part of the landscape at 41 degrees South. She seems either genuinely ignorant or just disdainful for the intelligence of her admittedly ignorant fan base when she next writes, "It wasn't the time of year it was just a Southern Ocean storm." Yet every single competent sailor that has passed through these parts would say just the opposite: This is a place you stay away from at this time of year - period - because even the most experienced is going to get the snot beaten out of them - at the minimum. Sunderland is beginning to show the attitude that is going to force her transition from curious spectacle to genuine freak; she's defensive, inaccurate, and blaming the media instead of taking the responsibility on herself for what was undeniably her problem and no one else's. Abby was simply dismasted, not in peril of death. She had multiple EPIRBs, plenty of food and water, hell - she had a working engine and the rig still behind her, but made no effort to rescue herself, as any competent RTW sailor would. GRIBs indicate that she didn't even face anything like the kind of true Southern Ocean storms that have destroyed major ocean racing fleets - merely a nasty gale with an ugly cross sea - something that Abby clearly didn't know how to handle despite knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that she'd face exactly these conditions. So she took her sails down, hunkered down below, and waited for the inevitable. And once it came, she pulled the ripcord, hunkered down below, and waited for rescue. And now she hunkers down on a fishing boat, waits for her delivery to safety, while her parents wait for the book deals and the talk shows. Get in on the forum topic right over here and let the Anarchists know what you think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #73 June 14, 2010 Nick, I'm confused by your post? Are you saying she made a mistake... like none of us have never made a mistake... but she doesn't want to suck it up and admit it... like none of us have ever done that before either... but what are you saying? Are you displeased in someway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #74 June 14, 2010 I didn't say anything. Just posted a link. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #75 June 14, 2010 Quote Quote Its a French boat, of course there are high explosives, otherwise how else would the be able to surrender and scuttle their boat? BAM!Well played, sir! French Military Uniforms It was brought to our attention that 18th century British soldiers opted for red coats so that if a leader was wounded there would not be panic by the ranks because the blood would not show because it matched the color of their coats. This explains why the French wear brown pants. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
