murrays 0 #26 June 11, 2010 What a great way to wake up. So happy she is fine.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #27 June 11, 2010 I conked out last night but what great news to wake up to! The Airbus crew spotted her boat "Wild Eyes" in an upright position but her rig is gone (she's demasted.) Abby reported (via radio) her supply of food and water is intact and she's now just waiting for the French to reach her. Now that that's been established we can start in on her jackass parents, two holey rollers, who believed less in proper planning and more in the Lord looking after her. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #28 June 11, 2010 Glad she is still alive. Also ... as much as I admire young people like her for their ambition and drive (too bad more young people don't have what this girl has), this trend of "being the youngest" to achieve goals can be deadly. I can't remember her name, but about a decade ago there was this young girl who wanted to fly solo around the country (or something like that) and she ended up crashing and dying. Society shouldn't let children do these activities "solo". People should wait until they are adults. Of course being 18 does not really make someone an adult. It's the maturity level someone possesses that makes them an adult. So now I am officially talking out of my ass. But as I said, I am happy this girl is still with us. I hope she gets rescued later today. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #29 June 11, 2010 QuoteQuoteThis is the flip side of the kid that climbed Everest a few weeks ago. I said it then and I'll say it again; records for "youngest person to do so-and-so" are stupid. Is climbing everest stupid? Going into space? Jessica Watson just pulled it off, and grown adults have been lost at sea too. Half empty attitudes never accomplish much. Not taking a stab at you, but plenty of people told Jessica she couldn't do it, but she did. Plenty of people told my wife she couldn't do tandems, but she did, and did better than many. I sure hope this young sailor is OK but if not that is no reason to say it is a stupid thing to do. shit happens! Why jump out of a plane? Is that stupid? I've followed Jessica and Abby since they set sail. I admire their courage and determination. Very glad Abby sounds to be ok. I would not be surprised to see her fix the boat and continue on. Others on their adventure. http://www.alessandrodibenedetto.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=1&lang=en 20' boat around the world. almost done. http://sagarparikrama.blogspot.com/ Indian sailor just completed around the world http://www.solo1.com.au/ Guadriplegic solo around Australia http://www.svnereida.com/index.php female 69, second attempt. First attempt failed about 50 miles from finish. http://www.saito8.com/ 8th time around the world. This time the wrong way. http://www.bountyboat.com/ following Capt. Bligh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #30 June 11, 2010 I see a lot of talk about Kids doing things early, it can't be said "All" kids...Some can handle things , some can not, By the age of 16, I had been working the carnival 4 years, and been on the street on my own 3.... I can't imagine my son doing that, (he is 16), nor do I think he is ready for it...He is not me! But he is going to enter Redbull Rampage this year, a competition usually reserved for athletes 18 and over, because it is so dangerous, But "That" I think he is ready for, and he has convinced Redbull also! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #31 June 11, 2010 Deaf skydiver Charl de Villiers completed one in 2004. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 June 11, 2010 Quote I conked out last night but what great news to wake up to! The Airbus crew spotted her boat "Wild Eyes" in an upright position but her rig is gone (she's demasted.) Abby reported (via radio) her supply of food and water is intact and she's now just waiting for the French to reach her. Now that that's been established we can start in on her jackass parents, two holey rollers, who believed less in proper planning and more in the Lord looking after her. NickD Bullcrap, Nick - can the melodrama. Making the inference that her parents sent her out to circumnavigate the globe in a rowboat with a Bible isn't fair to her or to them. She comes from a sailing family (her father is a shipwright) and has been sailing for years - in fact, she has MORE sailing experience than her older brother, who also did a circumnavigation. The boat was retrofitted with a raft-equipped 'escape hatch' instead of the usual bagged raft in the foc'sle, and she had dry suits and a ditch bag available. She was in regular contact with route planners (in fact, I think it was the same folks you got your wind map from in the other attachment).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #33 June 11, 2010 Whatever . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 June 11, 2010 Quote Whatever . . . NickD That's about all the last line of your other post was worth in reply, yes. However, if you have anything of SUBSTANCE to provide, I'd be happy to hear it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #35 June 11, 2010 Quote Quote Whatever . . . NickD That's about all the last line of your other post was worth in reply, yes. However, if you have anything of SUBSTANCE to provide, I'd be happy to hear it. My guess is Nick is keeping this thread out of SC! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #36 June 11, 2010 Quote Deaf skydiver Charl de Villiers completed one in 2004. Wendy P. And he showed an awe-inspiring DVD of that journey at the 2005 Deaf World Record event. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #37 June 11, 2010 Quote Quote Deaf skydiver Charl de Villiers completed one in 2004. Wendy P. And he showed an awe-inspiring DVD of that journey at the 2005 Deaf World Record event. But the Audio track sucked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #38 June 11, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Deaf skydiver Charl de Villiers completed one in 2004. Wendy P. And he showed an awe-inspiring DVD of that journey at the 2005 Deaf World Record event. But the Audio track sucked! Nah, his wife (who's hearing) did the work ( I think ). "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #39 June 11, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Deaf skydiver Charl de Villiers completed one in 2004. Wendy P. And he showed an awe-inspiring DVD of that journey at the 2005 Deaf World Record event. But the Audio track sucked! Nah, his wife (who's hearing) did the work ( I think ). That is just what they told all of you..it is a trick we pull! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #40 June 11, 2010 Actually, the audio track was great, and added to the presentation. So there Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #41 June 12, 2010 Glad to hear she's okay. Too bad it's pretty sure she won't complete her journey and they'll have to sink her boat... it will probably prove difficult though if its the French Navy that takes on the task... ------------------------ http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/12/french-fishing-vessel-rescues-teenage-sailor-indian-ocean/ THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- Laurence Sunderland, the father of 16-year-old Abby Sunderland, told reporters outside his home that the Australian Maritime Safety Authority had contacted him to confirm the rescue more than 2,000 miles from the western Australia coast. "She got out of her vessel with the clothes on her back, and we are just really excited and ecstatic that Abigail is in safe hands," he said. "She was in good spirits ... She talked to her mother." Sunderland has been stranded in heavy seas since Thursday, when she set off a distress signal after the mast collapsed, knocking out her satellite communications. The elder Sunderland said the family was not going to elaborate on the problems that led to the emergency. The Australian group said the French ship Ile De La Reunion brought Sunderland on board from her stricken craft Saturday afternoon at the site (about 2:45 a.m. PDT). French authorities called it a "delicate operation" and at one point the fishing boat's captain fell into the ocean. "He was fished out in difficult conditions" and is in good health, said a statement from the French territory of Reunion Island. Laurence Sunderland said the crew used its dinghy to retrieve his daughter. "We are just ecstatic that she is alive and well and survived the ordeal." An hour before the rescue, an Australian search and rescue spotter plane overflew Sunderland's boat and she fired off a flare to confirm her position. The plane and fishing boat maintained contact to determine how best to carry out the rescue amid concerns over the rough seas and the differing size of the two vessels. The elder Sunderland said it could be more than a week before he sees his daughter. The French statement said the boat is headed toward the Kerguelen Islands. Australian authorities, coordinating with French officials, are to decide on Sunderland's final destination. Laurence Sunderland said her boat will likely be sunk because of the difficulty towing it a great distance. Sunderland set out from Los Angeles County's Marina del Rey on Jan. 23, trying to become the youngest person to circumnavigate the globe solo. Zac Sunderland, her brother, held the record for a little more than a month last year until Briton Mike Perham completed his own journey. The record changed hands again last month, when 16-year-old Australian Jessica Watson completed her own around-the-world voyage. Outside the family home early Saturday, news crews gathered to hear word of the rescue from the family, which had been receiving updates by telephone from Australian rescue officials. Eight pink balloons were tethered to the white picket fence in front of the single-story house and beneath them was placed a large, hand-painted sign that read: "Thank God Abby's alive." Soon after starting her trip, Sunderland ran into equipment problems and had to stop for repairs. She gave up the goal of setting the record in April, but continued, hoping to complete the journey. She had been keeping in contact with her parents through satellite communications and had made several broken calls to her family in Thousand Oaks, reporting her yacht was being tossed by 30-foot (9-meter) waves -- as tall as a 3-story building. An hour after her last call ended Thursday, her emergency beacons began signaling. Rescuers in a chartered jet flew from Perth on Australia's west coast and spotted Sunderland's boat, Wild Eyes, on Thursday. She was able to radio to the plane to say she was in good health and had plenty of food supplies. Her parents have come under criticism from some observers for allowing the high-risk adventure. Veteran sailors questioned the wisdom of sending a teenager off alone in a small boat, knowing it would be tossed about for 30 or more hours at a time by the giant waves that rake the Southern Hemisphere's oceans this time of year. Her father defended the voyage. "I never questioned my decision in letting her go," he told reporters Friday. "In this day and age we get overprotective with our children. If you want to look at statistics, look at how many teenagers die in cars every year. Should we let teenagers drive cars? I think it'd be silly if we didn't." She was contacted by rescuers in a chartered Qantas Airbus A330 jet that made a 4,700-mile (7,600-kilometer) round trip from Perth to Sunderland's boat, which is near the limit of its range. They spotted Sunderland on the back deck of her boat. Its sail was dragging in the water but Sunderland appeared to be in good shape. She told searchers Friday that she was doing fine with a space heater and at least two weeks' worth of food. Family spokesman Jeff Casher said her vessel so badly damaged, her attempt to circle the globe was over. "This is the end of the dream. There's no boat to sail," he said. The Australian maritime authority did not say how much the rescue mission would cost but said it would not be seeking compensation for the search, which initially fell just outside of Australia's search and rescue region. It was not immediately clear if the French vessel would seek compensation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #42 June 12, 2010 Quote Quote . The French fishing vessel that was diverted to her location will be there in a little over 24 hours. and then the real trouble will begin Yeah, I had that thought too... Glad she's safe too. Hope to hear she's home safe in a few days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #43 June 12, 2010 Quote Her two EPIRB signals are showing a 1 knot drift. If her boat was upright (in the current WX conditions) she'd be going faster. If she was in her inflatable lifeboat she'd be going faster. If she was in the water (she has a full on survival suit) she'd be going faster. The thinking is she has lost the keel and the boat is laying on it's side with its mast and sails in the water. Or she's completely inverted. It's the only thing that accounts for the one knot speed. Guess I'll give you partial credit, the boat was upright but the mast was in the water. Why would they sink the boat? If its floating, minas well let it float, might be cool to see where it ends up making landfall at, maybe it will have the exact part on it to make the oil spill in the gulf stop!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #44 June 12, 2010 QuoteWhy would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #45 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhy would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard. If its has hard to sink the boat as they made it sound, how are they going to do it? Massive amounts of weight on it?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #46 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy would they sink the boat? Navigational hazard. If its has hard to sink the boat as they made it sound, how are they going to do it? Massive amounts of weight on it? THAT, I don't know - the boat was designed for exactly the southern ocean crossing that Abby was doing, so it's got a LOT of flotation - think 'wood chip in a puddle'. That said, unless it has some way (perhaps seacocks) to scuttle the ship, it will most likely have to be destroyed either by explosives or naval gunfire. Here's some specs on how it was fitted out. She had multiple redundancy in power generation (wind, solar and diesel), communications (2 sat phones, SSB radio, 2 VHF radios {ship and personal}), emergency signalling ('boat sunk' EPIRB, "normal" EPIRB and personal beacon), 2 autopilots, 2 radars, and GPS. She had communications links to route and weather planners, as well. The boat itself has a kevlar reinforced hull and 5 separate watertight compartments (remember the 'wood chip' comparison?), a crash bulkhead and a stern escape hatch with a raft fitted to it. Abby had immersion gear, dry suits and a 'ditch bag', as well as sufficient dehydrated food for seven months.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #47 June 12, 2010 They could just find an iceburg and pull the ol' titanic move on it? I dont know if I would want to sink that puppy, sounds expensive!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #48 June 12, 2010 QuoteI dont know if I would want to sink that puppy, sounds expensive! It's an Open 40 class hull. So maybe a few million._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #49 June 12, 2010 QuoteThey could just find an iceburg and pull the ol' titanic move on it? I dont know if I would want to sink that puppy, sounds expensive! About half a mil worth of expensive, yes, from what I've seen online for the class .... large sailboats (and especially open ocean racers) don't come cheap!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #50 June 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteThey could just find an iceburg and pull the ol' titanic move on it? I dont know if I would want to sink that puppy, sounds expensive! About half a mil worth of expensive, yes, from what I've seen online for the class .... large sailboats (and especially open ocean racers) don't come cheap! Race yachts have an extreme amout of depreciation. You can buy an IACC class boat (which costs on average of about 17 million to build) for about half a million, and sometimes even for $250,000._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
