NickDG 23 #1 November 12, 2010 http://gawker.com/5688054/postal-worker-secretly-films-customers-racist-rant I checked, as much as I could, and believe unfortunately, that this is real. The woman involved is obviously unbalanced so this isn't about her. It's about the Post Office firing this guy who did an exemplary job of keeping his cool. You can send an e-mail or lick a stamp but please write a short letter to the U.S. Postmaster General of the United States - and help get this guy's job back. The Honorable John E. Potter Postmaster General U.S. Postal Service 475 L'Enfant Plaza, SW Washington, DC 20260-0010 E-mail: pmgceo@usps.gov NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #2 November 12, 2010 they fired HIM for that ? Was he working for KKK Postal services ? this lady is just disgusting and would deserve ... nothing.. she doesn't deserve nothing... just to be alone and die alone. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #3 November 12, 2010 Fired????? Teh blacking out, of "when he got slapped" is a bit od...BUT, Her words alone, say he was up against a nut case...and following the rules of his job..once signed for, it is her property...If he gave it back,(the card). he could be fired.. My gawd that woman is a loose cannon! off to write them after posting this..>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #4 November 12, 2010 Done...hopefully I recieve an answer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #5 November 12, 2010 I doubt any of us will get a response other than maybe an automatic one. But this vid is making the rounds on the net and hopefully the thousands of e-mails and letters it will generate can save this guy's job. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #6 November 12, 2010 Quote I doubt any of us will get a response other than maybe an automatic one. But this vid is making the rounds on the net and hopefully the thousands of e-mails and letters it will generate can save this guy's job. NickD It just popped up at Neds too.....My money is on him getting his job back, and a settlement! There are ASSHOLE postal workers out there, , but this guy is not one of them.. (Liek the fuckin jerk that couldn;t speak undertsandable english, that peppered my dogs, when the box is on the street, 8 feet away from my dogs...he did finally get fired, but only after he peppered 3 more dogs in my naighborhood...Guess he hadn't planned on me talking to ALL my naighbors! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 9 #7 November 13, 2010 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/12/woman-goes-postal-postal-worker/?test=latestnews Video of Racial Tirade Against Postal Worker Only Part of Story, Police and USPS Say By Diane Macedo Published November 12, 2010 A video showing a Massachusetts woman assailing a mail carrier and calling him the N-word last year has gone viral -- and as it unravels, the story behind the video is attracting even more attention. In the video, shot in October 2009, 60-year-old Erika Winchester of Hingham, Mass. is shown cursing at 47-year-old mail carrier Hugson Jean of Roslindale, Mass, making racist remarks and at one point apparently hitting him after he refuses to give her back the piece of paper on which she signed for a certified piece of mail. Almost exactly a year later, Jean posted the video on YouTube saying he’d been fired for the incident and expressing outrage that the postal service never investigated it and the woman was never charged. But while the video and claims that accompanied it have triggered an outpouring of anger toward Winchester and the postal service, the USPS and the Hingham Police Department say the story is not what it seems. "When the officers went to the neighborhood and spoke to the letter carrier, he stated that he had been assaulted and that the female directed some racial slurs against him and that he had a video of it," Lt. Michael Peraino, public information office for Hingham Police Department told FoxNews.com. "So the officers talked to the woman, Erika Winchester, and she admitted that she called him some racial slurs, but denied hitting him." The video shows Winchester calling Jean the N-word and telling him "the white people" were going to kill him for not doing what she needed him to do and at one point apparently slapping him. Despite the partial admission and the evidence, Peraino says, Jean told police he didn’t want to press charges. After seeing the video, police charged her anyway with an assault and battery hate crime, but at her hearing on Nov. 24, 2009, Peraino says Jean’s attorney said Jean still did not want to press charges and that Jean would not testify in the case. The court decided instead to hold the case. "If Mrs. Winchester stayed out of trouble for that year the case would be disposed of," Peraino said. "So on Nov. 24, 2010, which is two weeks away, the case will be disposed of as we haven’t had any issues with Mrs. Winchester since then." But Peraino said he wasn’t surprised the Jean didn’t want to press charges against Winchester. The woman known around town for her outbursts reportedly was arrested in August 2005 after drunkenly crashing her Volvo into a street sign and subsequently trying to hit one of the paramedics that was treating her. She was arrested again in January 2007 after telling cast members at a community theater rehearsal they would "get it with a machine gun," then telling the cop that arrested her for trespassing that she would "chop off" his genitals, TheSmokingGun.com reported. Peraino said he couldn’t "go into any health issues" but did say Winchester was well-known around town for her outbursts and "has some issues," which likely triggered sympathy from Jean. "He knows her, and I think that’s why he didn’t want to press charges. I think he was showing some compassion for her," he said. Jean told the Hingham Journal that he was never notified about the hearing and that, while he did not want Winchester arrested, he did want her prosecuted. He also blamed his firing on the Postal Service not wanting "to get involved in this assault," saying it did no investigation and that his supervisors "laughed it off" when he showed them his cell phone video. Peraino says it was a postal supervisor that alerted him to the incident and that the postal service didn’t investigate because the police already were. "We talked with them and they were fine with the way we were handling it," he said. USPS spokeswoman Christine Dugas also couldn’t explain the timing of the video or the post that accompanied it. For starters, the video was posted only a month ago, but Dugas says Jean stopped working for the company a year ago. And she says Jean was hired as a temporary employee. "Transitional employees are hired with the knowledge that it’s not going to be a permanent position," Dugas said. But even temporary employees usually stay on for about a year, while Jean was only there from February to November 2009. Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." One thing she could confirm: "Let me assure you that the employee's job status has nothing whatsoever to do with the video." Jean said he came out with the video now because he got tired of waiting for a resolution to his termination case, which he says is currently under appeal. He told the Hingham Journal he hadn't found a new job since his termination but does not want any harm to come to Winchester. The paper reported that he would not disclose her identity at the time of the interview in an effort to protect her. Winchester told the Journal that Jean was as a nice man but she, too did not think the incident and his job loss were related. "I am sorry for him and his job – but that has nothing to do with me," she told the paper. "He dropped the charges against me. I did not have any charges against him." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #8 November 13, 2010 So on top of being a stinking bigot she abused a Volvo. This is intolerable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 9 #9 November 13, 2010 Quote So on top of being a stinking bigot she abused a Volvo. This is intolerable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zep 0 #10 November 13, 2010 Quote So on top of being a stinking bigot she abused a Volvo. This is intolerable. Ahh, don't get your knickers in a twist, Volvos are built to take abuse why do you think only women and nerds drive them Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #11 November 13, 2010 As usual, there is always more to the story! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #12 November 13, 2010 Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #13 November 13, 2010 QuoteQuote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. And is using the old worn out "Race Card"....worse yet, it almost worked... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #14 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. And is using the old worn out "Race Card"....worse yet, it almost worked... Sigh. Perhaps you didn't notice: the woman repeatedly called him a nigger to his face. Why do I even bother? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #15 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. And is using the old worn out "Race Card"....worse yet, it almost worked... Sigh. Perhaps you didn't notice: the woman repeatedly called him a nigger to his face. Why do I even bother? Sigh...Perhaps you didn;t notice that happen almost a year before he was fired!...Why do I try? It had NOTHING to do with his being fired! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #16 November 13, 2010 But he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #17 November 13, 2010 QuoteBut he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. EXcccuuuuuuuuuusee Meeeee.. His services weere no longer needed!.... (I prefer mine stewed with potatoes and onions, anyway) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #18 November 13, 2010 Quote But he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. And you, my good sir, stand accused of killing kittens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #19 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote But he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. And you, my good sir, stand accused of killing kittens. let he who has not eaten pussy, cast the first stone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #20 November 13, 2010 QuoteQuote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. Key word: "might". I've handled lots of employment discrimination cases, from both sides. It's not uncommon that when an employee files a legitimate grievance, all of a sudden the "pattern of problems" start cropping up in his HR record, for...well, the record. Anyhow, that's why there are trials, and that's why there are juries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #21 November 13, 2010 Ahh, the old "document everything for when we wash him out" story. Yes, that and many other reasons are why we have jury trials in this country. On a side note, Vskydiver wonders why I pay my union dues every 2 weeks, even though they've done f--k all to help me ever. It's because of things like this that I've seen other employees battle. I want them to have the means to find justice in the work place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #22 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. Key word: "might". I've handled lots of employment discrimination cases, from both sides. It's not uncommon that when an employee files a legitimate grievance, all of a sudden the "pattern of problems" start cropping up in his HR record, for...well, the record. Anyhow, that's why there are trials, and that's why there are juries. That is up to a jury, Hell, it is yoru job to not look at facts, instead to bend them so they fit...go get em! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites timmyfitz 0 #23 November 14, 2010 Quote I doubt any of us will get a response other than maybe an automatic one. But this vid is making the rounds on the net and hopefully the thousands of e-mails and letters it will generate can save this guy's job. NickD And now, the rest of the story(maybe). Quote spoke to a mail carrier today. He told me that the carrier from the video was indeed fired, but not for the incident on the video. He wasn't doing his job. Apparently skipping duties such as monitoring relay boxes and "not caring" about his duties. "They" had been watching him for some time... the final straw was when he drove over and ripped up a residential lawn with the mail truck... Quote Reached for comment about the video, US Postal Service spokeswoman Maureen Marion said the USPS "was aware of its circulation." She said the man who shot the video was a temporary employee until fall 2009. His termination was "handled in accordance with our national collective bargaining agreement." Marion wouldn't comment on whether it had anything to do with the video. 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piisfish 140 #2 November 12, 2010 they fired HIM for that ? Was he working for KKK Postal services ? this lady is just disgusting and would deserve ... nothing.. she doesn't deserve nothing... just to be alone and die alone. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #3 November 12, 2010 Fired????? Teh blacking out, of "when he got slapped" is a bit od...BUT, Her words alone, say he was up against a nut case...and following the rules of his job..once signed for, it is her property...If he gave it back,(the card). he could be fired.. My gawd that woman is a loose cannon! off to write them after posting this..>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #4 November 12, 2010 Done...hopefully I recieve an answer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #5 November 12, 2010 I doubt any of us will get a response other than maybe an automatic one. But this vid is making the rounds on the net and hopefully the thousands of e-mails and letters it will generate can save this guy's job. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #6 November 12, 2010 Quote I doubt any of us will get a response other than maybe an automatic one. But this vid is making the rounds on the net and hopefully the thousands of e-mails and letters it will generate can save this guy's job. NickD It just popped up at Neds too.....My money is on him getting his job back, and a settlement! There are ASSHOLE postal workers out there, , but this guy is not one of them.. (Liek the fuckin jerk that couldn;t speak undertsandable english, that peppered my dogs, when the box is on the street, 8 feet away from my dogs...he did finally get fired, but only after he peppered 3 more dogs in my naighborhood...Guess he hadn't planned on me talking to ALL my naighbors! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #7 November 13, 2010 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/12/woman-goes-postal-postal-worker/?test=latestnews Video of Racial Tirade Against Postal Worker Only Part of Story, Police and USPS Say By Diane Macedo Published November 12, 2010 A video showing a Massachusetts woman assailing a mail carrier and calling him the N-word last year has gone viral -- and as it unravels, the story behind the video is attracting even more attention. In the video, shot in October 2009, 60-year-old Erika Winchester of Hingham, Mass. is shown cursing at 47-year-old mail carrier Hugson Jean of Roslindale, Mass, making racist remarks and at one point apparently hitting him after he refuses to give her back the piece of paper on which she signed for a certified piece of mail. Almost exactly a year later, Jean posted the video on YouTube saying he’d been fired for the incident and expressing outrage that the postal service never investigated it and the woman was never charged. But while the video and claims that accompanied it have triggered an outpouring of anger toward Winchester and the postal service, the USPS and the Hingham Police Department say the story is not what it seems. "When the officers went to the neighborhood and spoke to the letter carrier, he stated that he had been assaulted and that the female directed some racial slurs against him and that he had a video of it," Lt. Michael Peraino, public information office for Hingham Police Department told FoxNews.com. "So the officers talked to the woman, Erika Winchester, and she admitted that she called him some racial slurs, but denied hitting him." The video shows Winchester calling Jean the N-word and telling him "the white people" were going to kill him for not doing what she needed him to do and at one point apparently slapping him. Despite the partial admission and the evidence, Peraino says, Jean told police he didn’t want to press charges. After seeing the video, police charged her anyway with an assault and battery hate crime, but at her hearing on Nov. 24, 2009, Peraino says Jean’s attorney said Jean still did not want to press charges and that Jean would not testify in the case. The court decided instead to hold the case. "If Mrs. Winchester stayed out of trouble for that year the case would be disposed of," Peraino said. "So on Nov. 24, 2010, which is two weeks away, the case will be disposed of as we haven’t had any issues with Mrs. Winchester since then." But Peraino said he wasn’t surprised the Jean didn’t want to press charges against Winchester. The woman known around town for her outbursts reportedly was arrested in August 2005 after drunkenly crashing her Volvo into a street sign and subsequently trying to hit one of the paramedics that was treating her. She was arrested again in January 2007 after telling cast members at a community theater rehearsal they would "get it with a machine gun," then telling the cop that arrested her for trespassing that she would "chop off" his genitals, TheSmokingGun.com reported. Peraino said he couldn’t "go into any health issues" but did say Winchester was well-known around town for her outbursts and "has some issues," which likely triggered sympathy from Jean. "He knows her, and I think that’s why he didn’t want to press charges. I think he was showing some compassion for her," he said. Jean told the Hingham Journal that he was never notified about the hearing and that, while he did not want Winchester arrested, he did want her prosecuted. He also blamed his firing on the Postal Service not wanting "to get involved in this assault," saying it did no investigation and that his supervisors "laughed it off" when he showed them his cell phone video. Peraino says it was a postal supervisor that alerted him to the incident and that the postal service didn’t investigate because the police already were. "We talked with them and they were fine with the way we were handling it," he said. USPS spokeswoman Christine Dugas also couldn’t explain the timing of the video or the post that accompanied it. For starters, the video was posted only a month ago, but Dugas says Jean stopped working for the company a year ago. And she says Jean was hired as a temporary employee. "Transitional employees are hired with the knowledge that it’s not going to be a permanent position," Dugas said. But even temporary employees usually stay on for about a year, while Jean was only there from February to November 2009. Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." One thing she could confirm: "Let me assure you that the employee's job status has nothing whatsoever to do with the video." Jean said he came out with the video now because he got tired of waiting for a resolution to his termination case, which he says is currently under appeal. He told the Hingham Journal he hadn't found a new job since his termination but does not want any harm to come to Winchester. The paper reported that he would not disclose her identity at the time of the interview in an effort to protect her. Winchester told the Journal that Jean was as a nice man but she, too did not think the incident and his job loss were related. "I am sorry for him and his job – but that has nothing to do with me," she told the paper. "He dropped the charges against me. I did not have any charges against him." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 November 13, 2010 So on top of being a stinking bigot she abused a Volvo. This is intolerable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #9 November 13, 2010 Quote So on top of being a stinking bigot she abused a Volvo. This is intolerable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #10 November 13, 2010 Quote So on top of being a stinking bigot she abused a Volvo. This is intolerable. Ahh, don't get your knickers in a twist, Volvos are built to take abuse why do you think only women and nerds drive them Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #11 November 13, 2010 As usual, there is always more to the story! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #12 November 13, 2010 Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #13 November 13, 2010 QuoteQuote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. And is using the old worn out "Race Card"....worse yet, it almost worked... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. And is using the old worn out "Race Card"....worse yet, it almost worked... Sigh. Perhaps you didn't notice: the woman repeatedly called him a nigger to his face. Why do I even bother? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #15 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. And is using the old worn out "Race Card"....worse yet, it almost worked... Sigh. Perhaps you didn't notice: the woman repeatedly called him a nigger to his face. Why do I even bother? Sigh...Perhaps you didn;t notice that happen almost a year before he was fired!...Why do I try? It had NOTHING to do with his being fired! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 November 13, 2010 But he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #17 November 13, 2010 QuoteBut he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. EXcccuuuuuuuuuusee Meeeee.. His services weere no longer needed!.... (I prefer mine stewed with potatoes and onions, anyway) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #18 November 13, 2010 Quote But he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. And you, my good sir, stand accused of killing kittens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #19 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote But he wasn't fried. Bad enough you want to burn puppies, now you want to fry.... well, you know. And you, my good sir, stand accused of killing kittens. let he who has not eaten pussy, cast the first stone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 November 13, 2010 QuoteQuote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. Key word: "might". I've handled lots of employment discrimination cases, from both sides. It's not uncommon that when an employee files a legitimate grievance, all of a sudden the "pattern of problems" start cropping up in his HR record, for...well, the record. Anyhow, that's why there are trials, and that's why there are juries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #21 November 13, 2010 Ahh, the old "document everything for when we wash him out" story. Yes, that and many other reasons are why we have jury trials in this country. On a side note, Vskydiver wonders why I pay my union dues every 2 weeks, even though they've done f--k all to help me ever. It's because of things like this that I've seen other employees battle. I want them to have the means to find justice in the work place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #22 November 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Dugas said for legal reasons she couldn’t disclose why Jean only lasted nine months, other than to say, "Ask him if he would be willing to give you his disciplinary records." It's starting to make sense now. It sounds like he might not have been a good employee. Key word: "might". I've handled lots of employment discrimination cases, from both sides. It's not uncommon that when an employee files a legitimate grievance, all of a sudden the "pattern of problems" start cropping up in his HR record, for...well, the record. Anyhow, that's why there are trials, and that's why there are juries. That is up to a jury, Hell, it is yoru job to not look at facts, instead to bend them so they fit...go get em! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #23 November 14, 2010 Quote I doubt any of us will get a response other than maybe an automatic one. But this vid is making the rounds on the net and hopefully the thousands of e-mails and letters it will generate can save this guy's job. NickD And now, the rest of the story(maybe). Quote spoke to a mail carrier today. He told me that the carrier from the video was indeed fired, but not for the incident on the video. He wasn't doing his job. Apparently skipping duties such as monitoring relay boxes and "not caring" about his duties. "They" had been watching him for some time... the final straw was when he drove over and ripped up a residential lawn with the mail truck... Quote Reached for comment about the video, US Postal Service spokeswoman Maureen Marion said the USPS "was aware of its circulation." She said the man who shot the video was a temporary employee until fall 2009. His termination was "handled in accordance with our national collective bargaining agreement." Marion wouldn't comment on whether it had anything to do with the video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
