Split pouch

[kevinwhelan 0]

I was reading some old posts about horseshoe mals and they scare me.
I was wondering if there is any system that splits the pouch when the bag leaves the tray. maybe with "cutaway like' cables. this would prevent the
pilot chute staying in the pouch after the bag has left the tray and so prevent this type of horseshoe

what would the disadvantages of this

"be honest with yourself. Why do I want to go smaller? It is not going to make my penis longer." ~Brian Germain, on downsizing

[mark 107]

What would the cables be attached to? Would your system work if the cables jammed because of poor maintenance or improper assembly?

Mark

[kevinwhelan 0]

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What would the cables be attached to?

I was thinking of something like one, maybe two cables attached to the bag holding one side of the pouch closed so that when the bag leaves the container it would split the pouch and free the pc

Would your system work if the cables jammed because of poor maintenance or improper assembly?

well this is true of most parts of a rig

"be honest with yourself. Why do I want to go smaller? It is not going to make my penis longer." ~Brian Germain, on downsizing

[darkwing 5]

An interesting notion, but adding complexity can also add other failure modes. I suspect there would be major resistance at the consumer and rigger level to this.

-- Jeff
My Skydiving History

[huka551 0]

Adding more cutaway systems, seems like a good idea, like mentioned that also is a way to create more problems. The reason there are only 3 handles is to make things less complicated

Muff Brother 3723

[kevinwhelan 0]

The reason there are only 3 handles is to make things less complicated***

I dont mean to add handles i mean that the bag leaving the container would pull these cables

"be honest with yourself. Why do I want to go smaller? It is not going to make my penis longer." ~Brian Germain, on downsizing

[huka551 0]

Its an interesting idea, maybe someone (you) could invent a system that would prevent that malfunction, or at least cut down on its chances

Muff Brother 3723

[councilman24 37]

But that means that the pouch would be "cutaway" each time you deploy, because the bag leaves the container on every jump. Then the "system" would have to be rerigged each time. And if misrigged it may cause a PC in tow with the container OPEN. This would scare me more I think.

If your worried about it inspect and maintain your gear (closing loops, PC pockets, PC's, pin protector tuck tabs or velcro) and learn to recognize potential problems. Overly tight or loose containers/pack jobs, loop wear, bent or broken tuck tabs, etc. Horseshoe malfunctions have always been rare and still are, especially on standard experinced gear.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[kevinwhelan 0]

But that means that the pouch would be "cutaway" each time you deploy***

Just thinking as we go along here, but rerigging would only consist of inserting the cable/cables into loops to hold one side of the pouch to the container. To my mind this is no more complex than cocking a pc.
But I also know that every extra step in a pack job is another point at which you can screw up

"be honest with yourself. Why do I want to go smaller? It is not going to make my penis longer." ~Brian Germain, on downsizing

[councilman24 37]

It IS more complex than cocking a PC, and we can't get some skydivers to do that right.

Are these cables that pull each time, connected to the bag going to tangle with the lines as they pay out?

I still think that any system I can imagine would cause more malfunctions than it would solve.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[nitrochute 2]

YES by all means lets make things more complicated than they need to be(LOL)!!

[mnealtx 0]

That's how I envisioned it - perhaps like the keeper loops on the 3 rings. Have 3 of them across the bottom of the container.

The problem is, where do you mount the cable stubs on the bag to go through them? The only real place you could do it would be on the open end of the d-bag, which could (conceivably) make for a bag lock, if a bight of suspension line got knotted around one of them.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Chrisky 2]

How about simply packing your PC so that it gets pulled out of instead of balling up inside the BOC when there is pull force on the bridle?

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