virgin-burner 1 #51 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote thanks billvon, i called him up and made my point clear in person.. i think he did understand. thanks for the back-up tough! Trust me, Bill will never back my side...BUT Virgin Burner, great talking to you, thanks for calling! (we had to work around each others accents) NONE of the moderators will ever back my side usually.. i been banned way more times than you probably have; on pretty much every subforum. but, nice talking to you! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #52 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote does that mean, that if you'd happen to meet this girl, that completely blows your mind, and she happens to have a dick, and in rather rare circumstances, she'd happen to be a (lesbian) transwoman, you could think of being with a girl. BECAUSE she has a dick!? EDITED to add: so does it all get back to genitalia as a prerequisite for love!? that is pretty sick.. and no lucky, it's not another stab at you.. When *I* say dick it means a man. A biologically born man, raised as a man, knows he's a man, can reproduce like a man, looks like a man, dresses like a man, God knows he's a man... you get the idea. And I don't see a problem with that. Nor do I see a problem with loving a woman. Or a transgender person. Everyone has preferences. It ain't just about genitalia, VB and you know it! What makes a "man" and what makes a woman is not just their physicality, but I would say that being born with a penis but thinking you *should* be a woman.. Well, with that comes complex issues - it's not just about the penis.. You know, VB.. You can love someone, but that doesn't mean a relationship with that person would work.."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #53 December 31, 2010 Quoteanyway, that article just made my mind turn for a couple of days.. and yea, i question myself about love, genders, my role, what i would expect from my significant other and so on. i have a beautiful godchild that will be two years old next year. she loves puppets, she loves dresses and she loves purses; i dont have any children of my own, she's also my niece, but say, she would just be different. would i love her less for that reason. her two brothers are totally the boys. now, if one would turn out to be into men, how could i possibly like or love them less!? now if any of the three would feel they were one of the "opposite", or even more so, (the boys) they were always one of the girls, or the girl would have felt she was always one of the boys!? could i love them any less? can you be judged, or judge yourself, by feeling attracted to somebody that is not the (physical) sex you have perceived them before!? it was a great read, and yes, i was always sure it's this or the other way, but yea.. maybe thinking out of your comfort-zone every now and then.. well, say it makes you look at things differently! it's just something i've been pondering over the last couple of days.. That kind of love does not change....IMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #54 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote thanks billvon, i called him up and made my point clear in person.. i think he did understand. thanks for the back-up tough! Trust me, Bill will never back my side...BUT Virgin Burner, great talking to you, thanks for calling! (we had to work around each others accents) NONE of the moderators will ever back my side usually.. i been banned way more times than you probably have; on pretty much every subforum. but, nice talking to you! Power.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #55 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote does that mean, that if you'd happen to meet this girl, that completely blows your mind, and she happens to have a dick, and in rather rare circumstances, she'd happen to be a (lesbian) transwoman, you could think of being with a girl. BECAUSE she has a dick!? EDITED to add: so does it all get back to genitalia as a prerequisite for love!? that is pretty sick.. and no lucky, it's not another stab at you.. When *I* say dick it means a man. A biologically born man, raised as a man, knows he's a man, can reproduce like a man, looks like a man, dresses like a man, God knows he's a man... you get the idea. And I don't see a problem with that. Nor do I see a problem with loving a woman. Or a transgender person. Everyone has preferences. It ain't just about genitalia, VB and you know it! What makes a "man" and what makes a woman is not just their physicality, but I would say that being born with a penis but thinking you *should* be a woman.. Well, with that comes complex issues - it's not just about the penis.. You know, VB.. You can love someone, but that doesn't mean a relationship with that person would work.. as i said, for once, this thread isnt about me; said article just made me think.. or better re-think certain things. and yup, you're right, i'm not "husband-material" as it was once said, and i'm pretty bad at relationships, at the moment, i'm sort of happy with what i DO have, and i try my utmost to keep it working.. but say you do meet your woman/man of your long lost dreams hoping to come true, and their physical attributes are not all that in line of what your (pre-occupied) mind thinks they should be.. well, tough titties i suppose! i really do wonder what the writer has ended up with.. maybe i should of had done a poll on this! but yea, if the end of the story wasnt so open, i probably wouldnt even have had ended up myself asking me these questions.. which personally, i think just adds to the story. they probably ended up getting married and adopting babies and stuff! which in my eyes (now) would only add to the theory of "universal love".. i wouldnt buy that story for two cents otherwise probably!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #56 December 31, 2010 VB don't think too much about it. Accept everyone for who they are not what we think they are. It's a great way to see the world and relate to people. Sexuality is truly a complex issue. It's a greatest driving force and it is also a very primitive and unquantifiable. After all there are those that are totally unsexual (insert married woman joke here). Those are people, oddly more women than men, who have sexual desire at all. That is to say they do not quantify themselves as male or female and well....they "fake it" rather well....until things hit the fan. And all because our brains and bodies don't speak to each other. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #57 December 31, 2010 I'd be pissed if she wanted to play from the red tees.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #58 December 31, 2010 Quote I'd be pissed if she wanted to play from the red tees. That was awesome.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #59 December 31, 2010 A couple of years ago, a good friend from the old neighborhood made an announcement that he would no longer be known as Steve. http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8705695116 I have no problem with her decision. Would I date her? No, not for me, but I hope the best for her. Hell, back when we were teenagers, we smoked dope and dropped acid (it was the 70's). She was a friend when she was Steve, no reason that should change because he (she) changed. Besides, gender is in the mind, not between the legs. More of what Jillian has done. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=jillian+barfield&btnG=Google+Search"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #60 December 31, 2010 I meant "you" in the generic sense of the word, not you personally. And you're right, you can fall in love with someone who doesn't fit your "normal" physical criteria. You don't consciously choose who you're compatible with - you sometimes just find love in the most unexpected ways..."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #61 December 31, 2010 QuoteI meant "you" in the generic sense of the word, not you personally. And you're right, you can fall in love with someone who doesn't fit your "normal" physical criteria. You don't consciously choose who you're compatible with - you sometimes just find love in the most unexpected ways... Why do you generalize based on your own experiences? I'm absolutely 100% certain I will never fall in love with a man or a tranny. And no, saying that doesn't make me small minded or bigoted. Its just means that I know what I like and what I want. Why can't you fee loving hippies get a grip and realize that not everyone functions the way you do and stop trying to show your propaganda down everyones throat.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #62 December 31, 2010 Quote obviously, you have not gotten my point.. but yea, "thanks" for your contribution.. VB I like most all of your posts. But if there was ever a time for it to happen it just did...I couldn't be any more confused than I am right now. And I'm not talking about my sexuality...I'm talking about this situation and the fact that born guy...has balls....now a girl. Not a tranny...but is a transsexual...to me these terms connotate the same thing. But yeah pussy is fantastic (most of the time...but there are some that arent all that) I thought this was a website about skydiving...now I can see the next time I get out to the dz...coming in on final...and then I see a picture in my mind of a fucking chick with a dick and whaM! I eat shit on final...the next time I bust my ass I'm totally blaming it on my perv ass friend from switzerland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #63 December 31, 2010 QuoteI'd be pissed if she wanted to play from the red tees. Yeah... a lot of people were pissed at Renée Richards in the tennis world, too.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #64 December 31, 2010 >I'm absolutely 100% certain I will never fall in love with a man or a >tranny. Of all the statements to make, those are the sort that are the most likely to be wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #65 December 31, 2010 Quote>I'm absolutely 100% certain I will never fall in love with a man or a >tranny. Of all the statements to make, those are the sort that are the most likely to be wrong. I am 100 percent agreement! Maybe because we live out here in teh land of fruits and nuts, we have sen the trannies that in no way in hell look like or act like men! I've seen some that are just drop dead gorgeous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #66 December 31, 2010 Quote Why can't you fee loving hippies get a grip and realize that not everyone functions the way you do and stop trying to show your propaganda down everyones throat. So the next time one of the ladies on the forum starts accusing me of being a shallow pig dog for stating I won't date someone who I don't find physically attractive you will have my back? Because it's been my experience on the net, that when ever a girl attacks a guy....usually me....it's just one sick ass kissing dog pile! So you got my 6 Yeah I know it's wrong but it's no fun being good Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #67 December 31, 2010 QuoteQuoteI meant "you" in the generic sense of the word, not you personally. And you're right, you can fall in love with someone who doesn't fit your "normal" physical criteria. You don't consciously choose who you're compatible with - you sometimes just find love in the most unexpected ways... Why do you generalize based on your own experiences? I'm absolutely 100% certain I will never fall in love with a man or a tranny. And no, saying that doesn't make me small minded or bigoted. Its just means that I know what I like and what I want. Why can't you fee loving hippies get a grip and realize that not everyone functions the way you do and stop trying to show your propaganda down everyones throat. You *are* kidding, right??!"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #68 December 31, 2010 Quote You *are* kidding, right??! No doll he is entitled to the right to determine what he likes, dislikes and what he is looking for in a life partner. What he said was in on way offensive to anyone true to themselves and their wants and needs. Look, I'm willing to bet gooood money I'm not your type of guy from what I have read. Now if you were to come out and say Shah is not my type due to his height or hair color or lack there of.....do i or anyone else have the right to criticize you and your mate choice criteria? We want who and what we want.....it's a deep personal check list who no one has the right to question. Good, bad or indifferent.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #69 December 31, 2010 Hopefully a trannie would fess up, before going so far as "Life Partener"! Seem I recall there was a murder this past year, when a guy found out his true love used to be a woman! I'll see if I can find that story! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #70 December 31, 2010 Yep: http://bossip.com/125784/smh-man-kills-girlfriend-after-truth-surfaces-that-she-used-to-have-a-shaft/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #71 December 31, 2010 QuoteQuote You *are* kidding, right??! No doll he is entitled to the right to determine what he likes, dislikes and what he is looking for in a life partner. What he said was in on way offensive to anyone true to themselves and their wants and needs. Look, I'm willing to bet gooood money I'm not your type of guy from what I have read. Now if you were to come out and say Shah is not my type due to his height or hair color or lack there of.....do i or anyone else have the right to criticize you and your mate choice criteria? We want who and what we want.....it's a deep personal check list who no one has the right to question. Good, bad or indifferent. No, I mean he must be kidding about what he claims I said/meant... Or he didn't *read* what I said. I totally have no problem with his preferences, I am not promoting that you should or shouldn't be open to "variety", I am not shoving my options down anyone's throat. All I'm saying is that it's possible to fall for someone you didn't expect to - that's a known fact and not some hippy philosophy!! There's nothing controversial about that statement at all!"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #72 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote You *are* kidding, right??! No doll he is entitled to the right to determine what he likes, dislikes and what he is looking for in a life partner. What he said was in on way offensive to anyone true to themselves and their wants and needs. Look, I'm willing to bet gooood money I'm not your type of guy from what I have read. Now if you were to come out and say Shah is not my type due to his height or hair color or lack there of.....do i or anyone else have the right to criticize you and your mate choice criteria? We want who and what we want.....it's a deep personal check list who no one has the right to question. Good, bad or indifferent. No, I mean he must be kidding about what he claims I said/meant... Or he didn't *read* what I said. I totally have no problem with his preferences, I am not promoting that you should or shouldn't be open to "variety", I am not shoving my options down anyone's throat. All I'm saying is that it's possible to fall for someone you didn't expect to - that's a known fact and not some hippy philosophy!! There's nothing controversial about that statement at all! Don't worry about him, Nat, he's just mad I was pulling his hair while giving it to him last night!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #73 January 1, 2011 Quote Quote obviously, you have not gotten my point.. but yea, "thanks" for your contribution.. VB I like most all of your posts. But if there was ever a time for it to happen it just did...I couldn't be any more confused than I am right now. And I'm not talking about my sexuality...I'm talking about this situation and the fact that born guy...has balls....now a girl. Not a tranny...but is a transsexual...to me these terms connotate the same thing. But yeah pussy is fantastic (most of the time...but there are some that arent all that) I thought this was a website about skydiving...now I can see the next time I get out to the dz...coming in on final...and then I see a picture in my mind of a fucking chick with a dick and whaM! I eat shit on final...the next time I bust my ass I'm totally blaming it on my perv ass friend from switzerland i'm done now; my goals are reached! if i can make at least one skydiver eat shit because of my posts, my destination has been fullfilled! i may now go back to regular skydiving. and posting more stuff about so-called trannies. thank you. in the incident-report, dont be shy of referring to this thread! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
