so, you're a man and...

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This look like BMX to you?
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I saw a young Marine get picked up by a Pre Op, that everyone in teh place had warned his buddies was a man with tits, his buddies desided not to tell....They were laughung thier asses off when he left with it, to go to a motel!

sorry mate, now that is just being rude and respectless, both towards the marine, and the "tranny" as most everyone else is calling them..
they're both human beings, with emotions and feelings; which is just the reason why i asked to be polite to begin with.
say your son was that way, would you have fun poking fun at him over here? "look at my son, he's a world-champ for synchronised swimming - with the GIRLS team!". i bet you would not find that funny..

but you call yourself proud coz he's some sort of good with his trial/BMX-bike.. how would you feel if it was more something like i've described above!?

Teh Trannie was well known tranni prostitute.he/she knew what was going on, he/she even winked at everyone in teh bar as they left!

And it is Mountain biking, Not them whimpy little bikes, and I would suggest you leave my FAMILY the fuck out of any converstion, that is not posted "about" my family, I am sick of people using my son as a weapon against me, BillVon, Luediamond, where the fuck are you now?

Attacking ,me with my family is as low as you get On line!

I’m telling. Mom he hurt my feelings.

You sure do whine a lot.
Not a PA just an observation.
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ya had yer chance..LOL

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One word answer, yes.

More complex one? Sure why not? I don't wish to have kids. As much as I yack about looks it all comes down to that connection you have with someone.

Now the real complex answer? Well if you are ever in a nigh club in NYC and you see a very attractive girl.....she could have been born intersexed and odds are you will never know it.

I knew two girls while at university. Both were stunning. We are talking Jessica Alba freaking hot! Both were amazing people and had amazing personalities and I wasn't even in their league so I didn't even try to hit on them. And their boyfriends didn't seem to give a rats ass.

But all that aside, someone who is born intersexed and decides to adjust their bodies to better fit their internal mirror of themselves must have more guts and drive than 99% of the people I know. Between the social issues there are the medical and not to mention the costs and the potential of loosing ones job. If anything it's a sign that they are a very strong person and in the end, isn't that what we all want in a life partner. Someone who when things hit the fan we can rely one and talk to?

So back to the short answer, sure.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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>Attacking ,me with my family is as low as you get On line!

He didn't. He said he knew you were proud of your son because of his skill on a bike, and asked you how you would feel if he had a different gender identity and people made fun of him. (After you recounted a story about how funny you thought it was that a "man with tits" picked up a Marine.)

That's a hypothetical question; he didn't say that "your son is gay" or anything like that. It also, ironically, demonstrates his point. Even though no one was making fun of your son, you became very angry. Now imagine what it must be like for a father whose son _is_ the butt of a dozen jokes a day.

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thanks billvon, i called him up and made my point clear in person.. i think he did understand.

thanks for the back-up tough!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[virgin-burner 1]

shah, that must be probably the most ever sensitive post of yours like - EVER!

sometimes i hate, sometimes i actually like you; but for that, i'm giving you a sloppy kiss on the bald forehead!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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You know I make one little thread about thunder thighed women hating pole dancers and I get marked for life as a pig.....
Eeeh not too far off the mark. But even a pig can be complex.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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You know I make thousands of little threads about thunder thighed women hating pole dancers and a thousand more threads about gear, wingloading, appropriate canopes and what intstructors or dorkzoners have told me and I get marked for life as a pig..... which basically, i am, and i cant RTFM, as well, i freely admit that!
Eeeh not too far off the mark. But even a pig can be complex.

there, corrected it for you!

and yes, you are right!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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You know I make thousands of little threads about thunder thighed women hating pole dancers and a thousand more threads about gear, wingloading, appropriate canopes and what intstructors or dorkzoners have told me and I get marked for life as a pig..... which basically, i am, and i cant RTFM, as well, i freely admit that!
Eeeh not too far off the mark. But even a pig can be complex.

there, corrected it for you!

and yes, you are right!

maybe, you should just man up, or hand in your man-card; whatever is easier for you!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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Did you just.....have a conversation with yourslef?

And last I read my psych books it was 100% normal and accepted to be shallow or at least have a very good idea as to what one finds attractive.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

Dealbreaker. One man, one woman. That's the way it works for me and what I believe.

Always be kinder than you feel.

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Did you just.....have a conversation with yourslef?

And last I read my psych books it was 100% normal and accepted to be shallow or at least have a very good idea as to what one finds attractive.

dude, duude, DUDE.. watch what i wrote.. seems, you dont have much common sense after all.. i'm anything but shallow, i dont really give a shit about size 4 or 14.. as you do apparently..

poor blow, really poor, and shalow, even low, to be most considering..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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Dealbreaker. One man, one woman. That's the way it works for me and what I believe.

pretty simple mind you are then.. actually, i've expected more of you, but hey, that is just me..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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Dealbreaker. One man, one woman. That's the way it works for me and what I believe.

pretty simple mind you are then.. actually, i've expected more of you, but hey, that is just me..

You wanted an opinion. That's what I gave. I'm ok being a "simple mind". It works for me.

Always be kinder than you feel.

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Dealbreaker. One man, one woman. That's the way it works for me and what I believe.

pretty simple mind you are then.. actually, i've expected more of you, but hey, that is just me..

I'm not sure it's small-minded. Some people are, some people aren't open to certain sexual possibilities. Just 'cause it's not for you doesn't mean you don't respect other points of view.

"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse."
- Chris Hadfield
« Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. »
- my boss

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Dealbreaker. One man, one woman. That's the way it works for me and what I believe.

pretty simple mind you are then.. actually, i've expected more of you, but hey, that is just me..

I'm not sure it's small-minded. Some people are, some people aren't open to certain sexual possibilities. Just 'cause it's not for you doesn't mean you don't respect other points of view.

well, if it's only about dicks and pussies you're probably right..

but if it's about LOVE.. well, i must say, i doubt it..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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I'm not sure it's small-minded. Some people are, some people aren't open to certain sexual possibilities. Just 'cause it's not for you doesn't mean you don't respect other points of view.

well, if it's only about dicks and pussies you're probably right..

but if it's about LOVE.. well, i must say, i doubt it..

Yeah, but maybe not everyone is able to love regardless of circumstances... Lots of people give up on love for far smaller reasons, unfortunately.

Everyone has deal-breakers - it's more honest to admit this than to pretend you'd be zen about it..

"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse."
- Chris Hadfield
« Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. »
- my boss

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dude, duude, DUDE.. watch what i wrote.. seems, you dont have much common sense after all.. i'm anything but shallow, i dont really give a shit about size 4 or 14.. as you do apparently..

poor blow, really poor, and shalow, even low, to be most considering..

Sorry drink in hand. You know how it is.....

And then there is my theory on dormant female bisexual nature...

McSwervy, hu really? You know it goes both ways. But it's very rare for a woman to go all the way. Turns out it's harder to cut out boobs and grow a wang than to get boobs and well tuck the summer sausage. Usually from what I recall from my days as in psych class, women who are experiencing an intersexed issues tend to go into body building where by their bodies naturally produce more testosterone.

It's a funny thing, our brains and bodies seem so connected but at times it's as if the brain is just passenger in a body it does not know.

But yeah, you have to give people credit for going to such lengths to be at peace with themselves.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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Yeah, but maybe not everyone is able to love regardless of circumstances... Lots of people give up on love for far smaller reasons, unfortunately.

Everyone has deal-breakers - it's more honest to admit this than to pretend you'd be zen about it..

I believe if you can't be true to yourself you can never be true to someone else. I believe it starts from within your soul and then comes forth and follows your heart. My heart, well, it only goes to dick.

Just sayin'.

Always be kinder than you feel.

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I'm not sure it's small-minded. Some people are, some people aren't open to certain sexual possibilities. Just 'cause it's not for you doesn't mean you don't respect other points of view.

well, if it's only about dicks and pussies you're probably right..

but if it's about LOVE.. well, i must say, i doubt it..

Yeah, but maybe not everyone is able to love regardless of circumstances... Lots of people give up on love for far smaller reasons, unfortunately.

Everyone has deal-breakers - it's more honest to admit this than to pretend you'd be zen about it..

well, i got a girlfriend that's about half my age.. so, you should not talk about ZEN to me! ;)

but yes, u're right, it's better to walk the talk than to pretend.. doesnt mean tough you cant fall in love with someone that's completely out of your range tough, for whatever reason! i mean, i never would of guessed i'd get to "grab a gril" that young, while i'm somewhat not on top of my game. yet, i did; what about the writer of said article that just happens to fall in love with a girl, that well, isnt really, altough it's just physical, like, i'm physically able to be my girlfriends father. does it mean i'm a complete pervert, or, what would you say to that!?

and no, i dont pretend to like my girl because of her (young) age..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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Yeah, but maybe not everyone is able to love regardless of circumstances... Lots of people give up on love for far smaller reasons, unfortunately.

Everyone has deal-breakers - it's more honest to admit this than to pretend you'd be zen about it..

I believe if you can't be true to yourself you can never be true to someone else. I believe it starts from within your soul and then comes forth and follows your heart. My heart, well, it only goes to dick.

Just sayin'.

does that mean, that if you'd happen to meet this girl, that completely blows your mind, and she happens to have a dick, and in rather rare circumstances, she'd happen to be a (lesbian) transwoman, you could think of being with a girl. BECAUSE she has a dick!?

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so does it all get back to genitalia as a prerequisite for love!?

that is pretty sick.. and no lucky, it's not another stab at you..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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thanks billvon, i called him up and made my point clear in person.. i think he did understand.

thanks for the back-up tough!

Trust me, Bill will never back my side...BUT Virgin Burner, great talking to you, thanks for calling! (we had to work around each others accents)

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does that mean, that if you'd happen to meet this girl, that completely blows your mind, and she happens to have a dick, and in rather rare circumstances, she'd happen to be a (lesbian) transwoman, you could think of being with a girl. BECAUSE she has a dick!?

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so does it all get back to genitalia as a prerequisite for love!?

that is pretty sick.. and no lucky, it's not another stab at you..

When *I* say dick it means a man. A biologically born man, raised as a man, knows he's a man, can reproduce like a man, looks like a man, dresses like a man, God knows he's a man... you get the idea.

Always be kinder than you feel.

[shah269 0]

LuckyMcSwervy
Relax, it's cool

funny bit of fact, one night i was out with some of the girls from my hall while at university and one of the aforementioned girls was out looking HHHHOOOOTTTT dong her thing on the dance floor and well you know how girls can be about snide comments.....and I had to just laugh.

Here was a person that had to rebuild their entire existence to be at peace with the world and they had done such a good job that a girl who was born a girl, my friend from my hall,.....was actually envious of the outcome.

It was a good giggle. I never told my friend. I figured it just meant that things were normal as they could ever be.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[virgin-burner 1]

anyway, that article just made my mind turn for a couple of days.. and yea, i question myself about love, genders, my role, what i would expect from my significant other and so on.

i have a beautiful godchild that will be two years old next year. she loves puppets, she loves dresses and she loves purses; i dont have any children of my own, she's also my niece, but say, she would just be different. would i love her less for that reason. her two brothers are totally the boys. now, if one would turn out to be into men, how could i possibly like or love them less!? now if any of the three would feel they were one of the "opposite", or even more so, (the boys) they were always one of the girls, or the girl would have felt she was always one of the boys!?

could i love them any less? can you be judged, or judge yourself, by feeling attracted to somebody that is not the (physical) sex you have perceived them before!?

it was a great read, and yes, i was always sure it's this or the other way, but yea.. maybe thinking out of your comfort-zone every now and then.. well, say it makes you look at things differently!

it's just something i've been pondering over the last couple of days..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda