virgin-burner 1 #1 December 30, 2010 say, you've met the woman of your life!? i've read this article somewhere on the net, i cant find it anymore, about a guy that has met a woman; they've went on for a couple of dates, and as the guy describes, she's the most sexy, amazing, smartest, cleverst, witty and amazing person he's ever talked to.. well, as things get a little more intimadate, that girl reveals something to the writer of that story: she was born the wrong sex, but took hormones and lived like a girl, as s(h)(e) always felt to be "one of the girls", since the age of 16. of course, the writer is a little startled by that. and he starts to think about what love is really about. is it about gender-roles, your wishes and dreams - say family and kids - LOVE and what it implies, is it about a person you adore and desire, or is it about - bluntly - said, genitalia that make said person.. the article was called something like "love and roles - what is it you really want?"; it was even in english, so if you want to google for it, please do so! it started in questioning myself, what if that would happen to me? what if, if i would feel a connection like that writer did. obviously, it made the guy write an article about it. how would i decide.. besides, that journalist did leave the end open.. i know for myself, i really like some pussy, but, if to the end of the woman i could think of wasnt a pussy attached to, but something extra!? how would i feel!? and how would you feel!? it just made me re-think about some stuff in life that were set in stone for me, one way or the other, how narrow-minded i am at times, and how about things were if i was not like that. i'm sure i'll get some fun poked at me at some stage, but just for once, keep that down. say, u've met the woman of your dreams, and she's a real woman, just with a little "extra". would that be a deal-breaker, i mean, it's love after all, right, but is it really love, or are you just a pussy-seeking horndog!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #2 December 30, 2010 How woudl "I" feel? Wouldn't bother me at all, other than having to realise adoption is the only way to have a family! I find sex change Much easier to understand than Gay! JMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #3 December 30, 2010 vb, did you fall in love with a tranny? Serious answer, if she still had man junk, then yes, it's a deal breaker. Sex is integral, and a cock and balls would get in the way. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #4 December 30, 2010 as far as i got it, that woman had no sex-change, so her genitalia was still male.. but a woman ever since. she's a woman, right? but has a dick. so, would you be gay to love that woman, or would you only love a woman with a dick!? the writer wasnt talking about a transvestite, but a true transsexual actually..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #5 December 30, 2010 You would be loving a woman with a dick. I think womanhood is much more than a vagina.What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonstark 8 #6 December 30, 2010 See "The Crying Game". jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #7 December 30, 2010 haha, if you look for it, there's a thread somewhere buried here about me hanging out in a bar and a tranny buying me a drink.. no, this is not about me.. for once! please everyone, keep it "sorta" serious. i expected the first answer to be "funny", you heatmiser being the 2nd, already surprised me. from what i understood, yup, the girl lived like one for all her life, still has balls and "man junk", but if you wouldnt see her naked, you would never have an idea..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #8 December 30, 2010 QuoteYou would be loving a woman with a dick. I think womanhood is much more than a vagina. that's what i figured..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #9 December 30, 2010 QuoteSee "The Crying Game". jon i think i have, and as much as i remember, it didnt end up well..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #10 December 30, 2010 I really can't put myself in a man's shoes to answer this one... For me, I can imagine the "person of my dreams" being either a man or a woman, and I wouldn't have a problem with my "true love" being one gender or the other."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #11 December 30, 2010 Quote as far as i got it, that woman had no sex-change, so her genitalia was still male.. but a woman ever since. she's a woman, right? but has a dick. so, would you be gay to love that woman, or would you only love a woman with a dick!? the writer wasnt talking about a transvestite, but a true transsexual actually.. YOu said "sex change" in the OP, not Pre oP! Nope, pre op is still gay! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #12 December 30, 2010 >YOu said "sex change" in the OP, not Pre oP! What about ambiguous genitalia? It's not always black and white. >Nope, pre op is still gay! Uh - you do realize that some transsexuals are straight and some are gay, right? (Like everyone else, oddly enough.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #13 December 30, 2010 Quote>YOu said "sex change" in the OP, not Pre oP! What about ambiguous genitalia? It's not always black and white. >Nope, pre op is still gay! Uh - you do realize that some transsexuals are straight and some are gay, right? (Like everyone else, oddly enough.) Uh you do realise I just said Post Op trannies are straight...Just like "most" everyone else! I've never heard ofd a gay "Post Op " trannie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #14 December 30, 2010 I saw a young Marine get picked up by a Pre Op, that everyone in teh place had warned his buddies was a man with tits, his buddies desided not to tell....They were laughung thier asses off when he left with it, to go to a motel! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #15 December 30, 2010 Quote I really can't put myself in a man's shoes to answer this one... For me, I can imagine the "person of my dreams" being either a man or a woman, and I wouldn't have a problem with my "true love" being one gender or the other. that is a really nice, and a very sensitive opinion, i think, nataly.. i dont know how i would feel, but that article really made me re-evaluate my opinons on certain stuff.. which probably, is a good thing.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #16 December 30, 2010 Quote>YOu said "sex change" in the OP, not Pre oP! What about ambiguous genitalia? It's not always black and white. >Nope, pre op is still gay! Uh - you do realize that some transsexuals are straight and some are gay, right? (Like everyone else, oddly enough.) from what i can tell about the article, it was just a woman loving men, in the wrong body. i figure it's a "transwoman" if i got that right.. and nope, not all transsexuals really want to undergo such an operation. some dont even want to get fake tits; they just feel they were born the wrong body, and want to go along with their lives "as usual".. taking hormones at such a young age as mentioned in the article is already pretty a big step, for someone that young! i've read up a bit on the subject when i've read said article..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #17 December 30, 2010 Quote I saw a young Marine get picked up by a Pre Op, that everyone in teh place had warned his buddies was a man with tits, his buddies desided not to tell....They were laughung thier asses off when he left with it, to go to a motel! sorry mate, now that is just being rude and respectless, both towards the marine, and the "tranny" as most everyone else is calling them.. they're both human beings, with emotions and feelings; which is just the reason why i asked to be polite to begin with. say your son was that way, would you have fun poking fun at him over here? "look at my son, he's a world-champ for synchronised swimming - with the GIRLS team!". i bet you would not find that funny.. but you call yourself proud coz he's some sort of good with his trial/BMX-bike.. how would you feel if it was more something like i've described above!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #18 December 30, 2010 I'm somewhat tired so I'm not sure if I understood your point but here is my helping contribution. Go here: http://www.extremeladyboys.com/ (NSFW duh!) Watch that stuff. Can you get an erection? Can you wank to that stuff? Can you come? I think that should answer your question(s).Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #19 December 30, 2010 >Uh you do realise I just said Post Op trannies are straight...Just like >"most" everyone else! Most people are indeed straight; some are gay. Likewise, many transsexuals are straight; some are gay. >I've never heard ofd a gay "Post Op " trannie! Jennifer Finney Boylan. She wrote a book about it. It's worth reading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #20 December 30, 2010 Quotefrom what i can tell about the article, it was just a woman loving men, in the wrong body. i figure it's a "transwoman" if i got that right.. and nope, not all transsexuals really want to undergo such an operation. some dont even want to get fake tits; they just feel they were born the wrong body, and want to go along with their lives "as usual".. taking hormones at such a young age as mentioned in the article is already pretty a big step, for someone that young! i've read up a bit on the subject when i've read said article.. I think this is a more complex issue than just "gender" and often delves into identity and self-worth and confidence issues as well. I imagine the psychological difficulties you would have in a relationship with a transgender person would far outweigh the physiological problems..."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #21 December 30, 2010 obviously, you have not gotten my point.. but yea, "thanks" for your contribution.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #22 December 30, 2010 Transsexualism is exactly that, someone who feels on the inside that they are not the sex they are on the outside. How much of our disposition towards feeling masculine or effeminate is genetic, and how much is environment? I have met people (not many)that were very much women with male genitalia, not a gay man dressing up like a woman. It is very easy to point fingers and laugh at people who are different than us. I know, I do it all the time. vb is right when he says they are people, with feelings and struggles too. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #23 December 30, 2010 Quote Quote I saw a young Marine get picked up by a Pre Op, that everyone in teh place had warned his buddies was a man with tits, his buddies desided not to tell....They were laughung thier asses off when he left with it, to go to a motel! sorry mate, now that is just being rude and respectless, both towards the marine, and the "tranny" as most everyone else is calling them.. they're both human beings, with emotions and feelings; which is just the reason why i asked to be polite to begin with. say your son was that way, would you have fun poking fun at him over here? "look at my son, he's a world-champ for synchronised swimming - with the GIRLS team!". i bet you would not find that funny.. but you call yourself proud coz he's some sort of good with his trial/BMX-bike.. how would you feel if it was more something like i've described above!? Teh Trannie was well known tranni prostitute.he/she knew what was going on, he/she even winked at everyone in teh bar as they left! And it is Mountain biking, Not them whimpy little bikes, and I would suggest you leave my FAMILY the fuck out of any converstion, that is not posted "about" my family, I am sick of people using my son as a weapon against me, BillVon, Luediamond, where the fuck are you now? Attacking ,me with my family is as low as you get On line! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #24 December 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I saw a young Marine get picked up by a Pre Op, that everyone in teh place had warned his buddies was a man with tits, his buddies desided not to tell....They were laughung thier asses off when he left with it, to go to a motel! sorry mate, now that is just being rude and respectless, both towards the marine, and the "tranny" as most everyone else is calling them.. they're both human beings, with emotions and feelings; which is just the reason why i asked to be polite to begin with. say your son was that way, would you have fun poking fun at him over here? "look at my son, he's a world-champ for synchronised swimming - with the GIRLS team!". i bet you would not find that funny.. but you call yourself proud coz he's some sort of good with his trial/BMX-bike.. how would you feel if it was more something like i've described above!? Teh Trannie was well known tranni prostitute.he/she knew what was going on, he/she even winked at everyone in teh bar as they left! And it is Mountain biking, Not them whimpy little bikes, and I would suggest you leave my FAMILY the fuck out of any converstion, that is not posted "about" my family, I am sick of people using my son as a weapon against me, BillVon, Luediamond, where the fuck are you now? Attacking ,me with my family is as low as you get On line! I’m telling. Mom he hurt my feelings. You sure do whine a lot. Not a PA just an observation. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #25 December 30, 2010 dude, cool it, i didnt mean to attack your family at all actually.. all i said was, "if it were your youngster, would you still be making jokes"!? i think that's a valid question, nope!? i try to keep this thread as serious as possible, as i said, the mentioned article made me re-think a lot of my values or beliefs. maybe you should re-think yours, too!? your soin's awesome! and i really wish him the best for his upcoming career as a MOUNTAIN-BIKER!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
